Speak up for autism on Nov. 1st

[Nichiro]

Of what I have seen so far, Autism seems to be among other things , a result of leaving children under stranger's care when they need parental love most.
Children feel neglected and they withdraw unto themselves.
Mental trauma rewires brain cells at growing stage and the result is withdrawn children who we have termed as Autistic.
Most of you might not agree but this is my personal feeling.
Cure for Autism is giving complete love and care to children all through their growing years.

 

[jiggeryqua]

Of what I have seen so far, Autism seems to be among other things , a result of leaving children under stranger's care when they need parental love most.
Children feel neglected and they withdraw unto themselves.
Mental trauma rewires brain cells at growing stage and the result is withdrawn children who we have termed as Autistic.
Most of you might not agree but this is my personal feeling.
Cure for Autism is giving complete love and care to children all through their growing years.

Hang on, I'll ask my mother how she feels about this nonsense.

 

[Jeff Corey]

Of what I have seen so far, Autism seems to be among other things , a result of leaving children under stranger's care when they need parental love most.
Children feel neglected and they withdraw unto themselves.
Mental trauma rewires brain cells at growing stage and the result is withdrawn children who we have termed as Autistic.
Most of you might not agree but this is my personal feeling.
Cure for Autism is giving complete love and care to children all through their growing years.

This is not just wrong, it's bordering on criminal. It's similar to Bettelheim's "refrigerator mother" nonsense.

 

[technoextreme]

I've never heard of people not believing adults can have autism. Do they think children outgrow it or die before they reach adulthood?

Think about this carefully and you will be able to answer your own question. Which group of people would have their sacred cow shattered if they were to accept the fact that there are adult autistic people?

 

[Nichiro]

Hang on, I'll ask my mother how she feels about this nonsense.

why? The Truth pinches ya?

 

[Nichiro]

This is not just wrong, it's bordering on criminal. It's similar to Bettelheim's "refrigerator mother" nonsense.

what's wrong? Leaving children in care of others or my posting a fact?

 

[Robin]

Of what I have seen so far, Autism seems to be among other things , a result of leaving children under stranger's care when they need parental love most.
Children feel neglected and they withdraw unto themselves.
Mental trauma rewires brain cells at growing stage and the result is withdrawn children who we have termed as Autistic.
Most of you might not agree but this is my personal feeling.
Cure for Autism is giving complete love and care to children all through their growing years.

As others have said, this is nonsense. I was never neglected or left under a stranger's care. I had a stay at home mother and a father who spent as much time with me as possible.

My children also had complete love and care through their growing years.

My kids' psychologist has said that this is one of the most harmful myths about autism.

 

[Robin]

what's wrong? Leaving children in care of others or my posting a fact?

Have you posted any facts? Show me the evidence.

 

[Jeff Corey]

what's wrong? Leaving children in care of others or my posting a fact?

You posted no facts whatsoever.

 

[TubbaBlubba]

(What ever happened to TubbaBubba, by the way? It surely can't have taken this long to come up with answers to all the questions he prompted. I do hope he's alright.)

Well, since you asked, and I hate to be blunt, I don't find your posts to be worth the time it takes me to respond. I'm following the thread, however.

 

[Alt+F4]

Of what I have seen so far, Autism seems to be among other things , a result of leaving children under stranger's care when they need parental love most.
Children feel neglected and they withdraw unto themselves.
Mental trauma rewires brain cells at growing stage and the result is withdrawn children who we have termed as Autistic.
Most of you might not agree but this is my personal feeling.
Cure for Autism is giving complete love and care to children all through their growing years.

In four years of posting at the JREF I have never read anything so unscientific, moronic, usless and stupid. The end.

 

[jiggeryqua]

Well, since you asked, and I hate to be blunt, I don't find your posts to be worth the time it takes me to respond. I'm following the thread, however.

Ah, you post nonsense, I ask you to explain it, or back it up, and you reply "I don't find your posts to be worth the time it takes me to respond". Got it Welcome to a relatively exclusive club.

 

[jiggeryqua]

why? The Truth pinches ya?

No, but misuse of capitalisation irks me. Why, can you say, would my consulting my mother for her feelings on your feelings, when she is the one your feelings accuse, indicate that 'The Truth' pinched me?

Your 'feelings' are drastically and demonstrably wrong, by the way. I can see how you may have reached that conclusion, given that all orphaned and adopted children are autistic, but...oh no, hang on, that's not the case at all. You're wrong and you have no reason to believe you're right.

 

[Nichiro]

Have you posted any facts? Show me the evidence.

Go to Eastern Asia and look for incidence of Autism in children. It is a miniscule number compared to west. Eastern world never leave their children in company of strangers.

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/a/autism/stats-country.htm

http://www.autism-pdd.net/testdump/test18257.htm

 

[Skwinty]

Go to Eastern Asia and look for incidence of Autism in children. It is a miniscule number compared to west. Eastern world never leave their children in company of strangers.

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/a/autism/stats-country.htm

http://www.autism-pdd.net/testdump/test18257.htm

Good grief, Charly Brown!!!

Your first link has this plastered all over it.

WARNING! EXTRAPOLATION ONLY! NOT BASED ON COUNTRY-SPECIFIC DATA SOURCES. The following table attempts to extrapolate the above prevalence rate for Autism to the populations of various countries and regions. These prevalence extrapolations for Autism are only estimates, based on applying the prevalence rates from the US (or a similar country) to the population of other countries, and therefore may have very limited relevance to the actual prevalence of Autism in any region:
Read more at http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/a/autism/stats-country.htm?ktrack=kcplink#extrapwarning

 

[Jeff Corey]

For those interested in learning about the genesis of such deluded thinking: http://autism.about.com/od/causesofautism/p/refrigerator.htm
"Today, it is generally agreed that autism is caused by a combination of genetic and environmental factors -- and unrelated to "cold mothering." Nevertheless, parents are still in the hot seat. While they are not accused of causing their children's autism, they are often expected to treat or discover treatments for it. Whether as therapists and advocates, or as researchers and medical decision-makers, parents are still in a position of overwhelming responsibility."

 

[technoextreme]

why? The Truth pinches ya?

No. Arguments that dimwitted baboons like Jenny Mcarthy use kind of pinches at us.

 

[Skwinty]

Thanks Jeff Corey. I will bookmark that link.

 

[Jeff Corey]

Well, this is the JREF, right?

 

[Jr1985]

Of what I have seen so far, Autism seems to be among other things , a result of leaving children under stranger's care when they need parental love most.
Children feel neglected and they withdraw unto themselves.
Mental trauma rewires brain cells at growing stage and the result is withdrawn children who we have termed as Autistic.
Most of you might not agree but this is my personal feeling.
Cure for Autism is giving complete love and care to children all through their growing years.

Sorry but I'm afraid you're ideas are wrong, and very outdated. Anecdeotal and empirical evidence suggests autism is probably genetic.

I have heard from several sources, including the psychologist who diagnosed me, that parents of autistic children tend to show some autistic traits themselves. In fact, my psychologist began diagnosing adults with Asperger's Syndrome, after she realised that some of the parents, whose children she had diagnosed, probably had it.

Here's empirical evidence:

The autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) are a group of conditions characterized by impairments in reciprocal social interaction and communication, and the presence of restricted and repetitive behaviours1. Individuals with an ASD vary greatly in cognitive development, which can range from above average to intellectual disability2. Although ASDs are known to be highly heritable (~90%)3, the underlying genetic determinants are still largely unknown. Here we analysed the genome-wide characteristics of rare (<1% frequency) copy number variation in ASD using dense genotyping arrays. When comparing 996 ASD individuals of European ancestry to 1,287 matched controls, cases were found to carry a higher global burden of rare, genic copy number variants (CNVs) (1.19 fold, P = 0.012), especially so for loci previously implicated in either ASD and/or intellectual disability (1.69 fold, P = 3.4 × 10-4). Among the CNVs there were numerous de novo and inherited events, sometimes in combination in a given family, implicating many novel ASD genes such as SHANK2, SYNGAP1, DLGAP2 and the X-linked DDX53–PTCHD1 locus. We also discovered an enrichment of CNVs disrupting functional gene sets involved in cellular proliferation, projection and motility, and GTPase/Ras signalling. Our results reveal many new genetic and functional targets in ASD that may lead to final connected pathways.

Pinto, D et al. (2010) "Functional impact of global rare copy number variation in autism spectrum disorders" Nature 466:368-372

www(dot)nature(dot)com/nature/journal/v466/n7304/full/nature09146(dot)html

So there is a genetic link...