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NASA Engineer (ret.) is a Twoofie?

You've posted nothing that shows how 140 tons of aircraft and the identified bodily remains of all 64 people that boarded it was found inside the Pentagon 90 minutes aafter taking off from Dulles airport. The approach, the crash and the forensic recovery was under continuous observation by countless people. We know the names and have the statements of about 250.
I don't respond well to echoes Al.

MM
 
Since nothing seems to be progressing towards a moderated exchange (or what ever you all call it), I'll through in a different topic while we wait.

I presume most on this forum are supporters of Michael Shermer.

Here is a confrontation between a couple of individuals in the audience and Sheremer following one of his talks. Topic of the confrontation is 9/11 Truth.

Turns out I can't post a URL. A message came up saying I can't post a URL to websites until after I've made 15 posts.

The YouTube title is: Anthony J. Hall and Joshua Blakeney Challenge Michael Shermer About His 9/11 Denialism (1 of 1)

Dwain
 
How come most of my searches for Deets on Google take me to either 9/11 sites or UFO sites?

He is obviously a believer in the absurd.
 
I quoted the truth.

Suck it up.

MM
Deets dodged the question because he did zero research before he endorsed the idiotic lies of CIT.

This will help... http://www.luizmonteiro.com/Altimetry.aspx#TrueAirspeed
Deets can use any speed he wants and convert it.


We asked Deets to explain why Flight 175 can't go the speed it was going! About 515 knots, verified by RADAR and video. He dodged the question by asking...
"I presume you are including the conversion to equivalent airspeed in your statement. Please provide examples"
He asked another question to dodge our question because he has not clue what to do. He proves it by lurking and not posting.

The speed was measured by RADAR and video. With light winds, the airspeed of Flight 175 is close to 510 KIAS, 510 KTAS, 510 knots ground speed, maybe close to 498 KEAS, or close to 537 KCAS; why can't Deets explain why 175 can't go the speed it was going?.

Now you have the airspeed conversion tool, you don't need Deets to be fooled by Deets' dodge.


So you subscribe to the minimalist school of engineering thought?

Personally, I believe those engineers who claim the design was based on the B-707's full capability rather than the most anemic crash scenario that could be envisioned.

MM
A big reason you are wrong on 911 issues, you just make it up as you go.
You have no engineers who claim the full speed and full fuel.
Robertson did the structural design, he is the one. You prefer lies. You make up lies by using hearsay as your evidence. Robertson's design impact was verified in a study; another study you will not understand.
 
Since nothing seems to be progressing towards a moderated exchange (or what ever you all call it), I'll through in a different topic while we wait.

Can we please set up a moderated thread for the Director and one of the JREF regulars? I'll make popcorn.
 
Since nothing seems to be progressing towards a moderated exchange (or what ever you all call it), I'll through in a different topic while we wait.

I presume most on this forum are supporters of Michael Shermer.

Here is a confrontation between a couple of individuals in the audience and Sheremer following one of his talks. Topic of the confrontation is 9/11 Truth.

Turns out I can't post a URL. A message came up saying I can't post a URL to websites until after I've made 15 posts.

The YouTube title is: Anthony J. Hall and Joshua Blakeney Challenge Michael Shermer About His 9/11 Denialism (1 of 1)

Dwain

RADAR, DNA, and FDR prove the flyover lies you endorsed for CIT are nonsense. What do you have to prove your flyover, and endorseing the CIT guys?

The speed of Flight 175 is close to 590 mph. You said Flight 175 can't do this speed. Where is your proof?

No one at JREF supports anyone unless they can back up their claims with evidence, we are skeptics, you endorsed and support liars who make up delusions about 911. Go ahead attack people you don't agree with, but you better present reality based evidence instead of your BS talk and failure to present anything but smart talk.


You assume too much and failed to bring evidence yet!



Shermer is right you guys who spew lies about 911 are like Bigfoot followers, or JFK nuts. All talk, no evidence.
 
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The speed of Flight 175 is close to 590 mph. You said Flight 175 can't do this speed. Where is your proof?

The cruise speed of a Boeing 767 is 530 mph = 777 ft/s.

R.Mackey said:
"Boeing 767's have exceeded this speed by a considerable margin at even lower altitudes on their way to crashes."

That does not sound like a controlled flight scenario.

MM
 
Embedded (~3000 views in 3 days, i see):

The idiot who made this video believes thermite has carbon in it, the Jones paper, the fraud. No thermite found at the WTC. Jones paper shows their samples are not thermite as none of them had the correct heat signature. Plus show me the carbon in the chemical equation for thermite? Good luck CE.

Deets' video is nonsense an he seems lost in 911 truth delusions. NASA director to a Zero Evidence hero for 911 truth, the new no research expert.
 
Since nothing seems to be progressing towards a moderated exchange (or what ever you all call it), I'll through in a different topic while we wait.

I presume most on this forum are supporters of Michael Shermer.

Here is a confrontation between a couple of individuals in the audience and Sheremer following one of his talks. Topic of the confrontation is 9/11 Truth.

And the people confronting him are whackadoodles with no applicable credentials. I have better credentials than either of these "professors" of stuff that has nothing to do with fire science.

And DRG?

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The cruise speed of a Boeing 767 is 530 mph = 777 ft/s.



That does not sound like a controlled flight scenario.

MM
That is funny; the speed of a 767 can be .86 MACH. OOPS!@

Guess what, 510 Knots is about .86 MACH. The funny thing about Boeing jets, they love to go fast. FAST, I flew a Boeing heavy jet, it easily goes fast, even at sea level.

The speed limit below 10,000 feet is 250KIAS, the speed limit on the air frame of 175 for Dive speed was 410 KCAS, or so, and 175 was going 510 knots at impact. You failed to make a point.


The cruise speed for a 767 at 700 feet to land would be 180 mph or less; the speed limit below 10,000 feet is 250 KIAS. Like I said your ignorance on flying is known, the depths of it are proved on each post about flying.

Flight 175 was speeding on decent, if it was going to fail to fly at those speeds it would have failed to make it to the WTC tower. Boeing makes great planes, they have a lot of over-speed capability at low altitude!

The reason the speeds are lower, are to ensure long life of the airframe, and speeds in excess of Vmo could cause damage in upsets. But you don't understand flying, so you will go on believing lies of CIT and p4t nut case claims.


Deets is retired, not a working professional.
You base your delusions on failed lies and hearsay from nuts on 911 issues.
Deets has failed to present any evidence, he posts videos like bill smith, he and she make a great team for 911 truth.

What is your point since you failed to figure out the speed a 767 can go?
 
Mr. Deets, on page four of this thread, in October 2009, Ryan Mackey writes the following:

Ron Wieck called me today and suggested I should talk to, or perhaps debate, Mr. Deets. But I really do not see the point. Particularly given the total lack of work he's produced, and the fact that even the Truthers seem to be poking fun at him in this thread.

Let it die, already.


Are you or have you been in any negotiations with Mr. Wieck about a Hardfire show with Mr. Mackey or any other opponent?
 
Since nothing seems to be progressing towards a moderated exchange (or what ever you all call it), I'll through in a different topic while we wait.

I presume most on this forum are supporters of Michael Shermer.

Here is a confrontation between a couple of individuals in the audience and Sheremer following one of his talks. Topic of the confrontation is 9/11 Truth.

Turns out I can't post a URL. A message came up saying I can't post a URL to websites until after I've made 15 posts.

The YouTube title is: Anthony J. Hall and Joshua Blakeney Challenge Michael Shermer About His 9/11 Denialism (1 of 1)

Dwain

I am just reading this now, but if others haven't already suggested it, we TRY to stay on topic in these threads, so perhaps, if you wish to discuss it (I assume you will stick around and discuss things this time), you could start your own thread on it, along with some of your thoughts about it.

As well, if Mr. Mackey has not set up the moderated thread then why don't you? Create a thread title, post your question, and wait for Mr. Mackey to Answer. In addition, Mr. Mackey has a question for you, which he could then post and you could answer. Once the thread is created, ask the mods to have it put on moderated status.

TAM:)
 
Can we please set up a moderated thread for the Director and one of the JREF regulars? I'll make popcorn.

Why go to all that trouble? Deets will find some reason for hurt feeling, and beg off again, answering nothing. Hell, we have seen his "ideas" on 911. Same old...

Watching MM make foolish "arguments", is all that this thread is worth. Gotta enjoy it through humor colored glasses! It's all the Twoofers have going for them.:cool:
 
I am just reading this now, but if others haven't already suggested it, we TRY to stay on topic in these threads, so perhaps, if you wish to discuss it (I assume you will stick around and discuss things this time), you could start your own thread on it, along with some of your thoughts about it.


This IS his own thread, TAM. The topic is him and his convictions.
 
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Mr. Deets, on page four of this thread, in October 2009, Ryan Mackey writes the following:




Are you or have you been in any negotiations with Mr. Wieck about a Hardfire show with Mr. Mackey or any other opponent?

I spoke with Mr. Wieck on several occasions back in October 2009. I told Wieck I was willing, but it died with Mr. Mackey, I do believe.
 

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