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NASA Engineer (ret.) is a Twoofie?

Miragememories said:
I thought the question was easy. Even for you.

How could Flight 77 be on a north of Citgo flightpath and hit the lightpoles that existed in the south of Citgo flightpath?

This should be an easy question.

MM
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It is, and yet, CIT and the rest of the dolts of the No-Planer bunch, get it wrong day in and day out.

Here's the answer-Not north of the Citgo.

Simple eh?
 
Miragememories said:
Eyewitnesses have the greatest difficulty identifying people in a police lineup.

Have you seen the Citgo setting?

You look north, one view.

You turn 180 degrees and look south, a completely different view.

Now it is 9/11.

A day that only the brain dead could forget.

You are at the CItgo gas station.

You hear the loud roar of a Boeing 767 approaching at high speed and very low altitude.

You look to the north and this dramatic vision of this close up fly by is permanently etched in your memory.

A second later a huge conflagration occurs at the Pentagon.

Years later, someone suggests that you and 9 others were not likely
to remember such an event very well.

I still remember exactly where I was the day JFK was assassinated!

You sir are afraid of the truth and deep in denial!

MM
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Were you in Dealey Plaza? No.

Were you involved in a very traumatic experience? Not like this.

Can eyewitnesses be inaccurate? Sure. Happens all the time.

Didn't you say so yourself? Absolutely. Right here.

Miragememories said:
THE FDNY firefighters were not liars, they were simply mistaken and giving their opinions.
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So, the FDNY, who have been involved with hundreds of high-stress situations are wrong, but your CIT witnesses are absolutely correct??

Hardly.
 
Childlike Empress said:
No. I asked you if you watched the presentation. You obviously didn't. There is no way those witnesses are mistaken or "deceived" (by CIT?) on those simple issues.
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We have watched something, but it certainly isn't the raw tapes, that is for sure. And we all know that the TM is famous for quotemining.

McQueen ring a bell?
 
Air Traffic Controller comments Flt 175

beachnut said:
Deets is hoping KEAS will save his failed idea.

The video of 175 impacting the WTC, and RADAR data proves Flight 175 did the airspeed. Boeing makes great jets, they don't fall apart because they are over the 360 KCAS limit, and below MACH .8. I flew Boeing jets for years and they can easily be over the lower altitude speed limit and recover to slower speeds. Many people are alive today because after Boeing Jets went well past their limits, they survived and landed safely.

It would be easy to go 100 knots over the 350/360 KCAS limit at low altitude, there is no control problem right away, and also lots of ways to slow down and save yourself before you go faster! lol

I exceed Vmo by accident for a few seconds, and the plane worked better! A fellow pilot exceeded Vmo a lot for a long time and he damage the skin under the leading edge; the maintenance guys were UPSET!@.

Sorry, I have flight tested by accident Boeing Jets past their limits, and the limits in question are to ensure the airframe, engines and flight controls last a long time. Remember I said the aircraft was de-laminating!? If you exceed the low altitude limit in large aircraft they can be damaged due to High Q. Deets knows this but he seems to be unable to understand how easy it is to exceed the Vmo, or the dive speed.

What planes do you fly CE? How much aero have you had? How many times have you been over Vmo?

Deets has nothing, he ran away because he did not do an analysis, he was talking BS.

I would never take a 767/757 over Vmo unless I was trying to save the passengers or crew for some reason. To go 100 knots over dive speed would be stupid, but the terrorists were not planning on flying again. And they did not care if they went too fast and voided the warranty.
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Mr Deets - Please ignore this childish tirade and comment on an ATC comments about the actions of our Flt 175 "jumbo jet "
Thanks Fonebone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W2Hu70y_D8
 
Childlike Empress said:
You are denying evidence. I told you before that there is a theoretical possibility that the witnesses are in on it. Take it up with Lagasse, Brooks and the rest of it.
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I have read what they all said. The only consistency is the fact they all say the plane hit the building. They agree with the physical evidence. Do they all describe the exact same path?
 
Miragememories said:
Exactly my point.

Therefore, any physical evidence supporting a known-to-be-false, south of Citgo flightpath, should not be there.

The only logical explanation is that the contradictory evidence must be planted evidence.

MM
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So somebody went out and took down the light poles with the power still on them?

Where do we find such men?
 
Childlike Empress said:
What is the conclusion CIT draws from the evidence they obtained? Do you have a better one? Where's Max Photon when you need him? A military deception. It's inherently logical that those people think they saw the plane hit. The deception worked.

Just like they didn't have to stage WMD in Iraq. Putin says he would have found some, but the russian people are well educated in critical thinking.
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ah yes they watched a plane near the Pentagon, Flyover, and then Poof, it vanished into thin air, never to be seen leaving...

Yes...I see it now. I am convinced.

TAM:D
 
Childlike Empress said:
Because the witnesses are still there and they are the only source of independent evidence in a small pool of controlled and self-contradicting data, leaked by those who are suspects of the crime, murdered over a million civilians, ruined your health and brought us to the edge of WWIII right now.
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I have bolded the essence of your bias.

So everything else was planted. You have not said this directly, as you are too cowardly to do so, but that is the only conclusion I can reach about your beliefs on the evidence, when you make the comment above.

Any one earlier who was surprised by your decent into this nonsense I would simply refer them to the above comment for your impetus. Hatred of an entire country (or at least its govt) is a powerful thing.

TAM:)
 
Childlike Empress said:
None of the above. Are you going to make yourself familiar with the crucial eyewitness testimonies or are you going to continue to try your pathetic little blame game?
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At least you are honest about not REALLY wanting to seek out the REAL truth. I guess Craig has created a truth that suits your political views, and that is all you need.

TAM:)
 
Childlike Empress said:
No, i'm trying to figure out if you indeed made yourself familiar with the evidence, or are just pretending. But wait. To be honest - familiar with your MO, i am showing the readers that you are just pretending.
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This is a CIT thread now. Once they see us discussing CIT, the reader leaves...There is noone here but you and us now.

TAM;)
 
Childlike Empress said:
As mentioned before, it shows. CIT have managed to put the obtained evidence into an (from a technical point of view) outstanding presentation. Big up to you, Guys! No creepy music, and no escape. Sorry, Garb. Either inform yourself or don't expect to be taken seriously.
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yah, tell them to torrent the the full witness testimonies then. That would be the honest thing to do. Scientists do not produce a paper with just their conclusions and a brief summary of their results...they produce all of their results so other scientists can evaluate what was done, in its entirety, critically.

Then again, this is far from science, and they approached it far from scientifically. Not to mention witness recollection is far from accurate on such a brief event.

TAM:)
 
Disbelief said:
This ranks up there with the dumbest TM theories ever. (1) The plane, the DNA, the FDR, the CVR, etc were planted or (2) some witnesses were mistaken (led by the interviewer). Only in truther land is option 1 more likely.
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There's Option (3)

The CIT boys selectively edited their videos.
 
BigAl said:
How do you "plant" an entire aircraft with the all the occupants that boarded it except by hijacking it?
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You don't.

There is too little evidence substantiating the claim that the aircraft ended its life inside the Pentagon.

If the lightpoles were planted, it would be incredibly naive to think the masquerade would stop there.

The basis of all the OCT rebuttal attempts appears be incredulity.

They can't/won't accept the glaring evidence that 9/11 was an Inside Job, because they can't, or refuse, to believe that
key elements within the U.S. government would be willing to participate in such a heinous crime in order
to promote an agenda that would not otherwise receive the necessary public support.

Do you really think the Wall Street leaders pursuing their pre-2008 agenda, were unaware and concerned about the harm
their pyramid actions would have on the American public?

Do you really believe the government listens more to the people than they do to Wall Street and the multi-national corporations?

Do you really believe that the Military/Industrial Complex cowers from wrong doing, and that they do not have the will or desire
to pursue what they feel is the most important future agenda?

This growing bubble of denial you live in is most certainly going to burst one of these days Al.

And all the 9/11 truth Movement is calling for is a full and proper investigation.

Those like yourself who work hard to undermine the 9/11 Truth Movement efforts, are nothing more than willing patsies for
the real masterminds behind 9/11!

MM
 
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