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Merged President Ahmadinejad trips the light fantastic

bill smith said:
So you like it Oystein ? I must post it for you on a regular basis.

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/gen.php?file=7TOCPJ.pdf peer-reviewed Thermite paper

It can't be bogus because no American scientific institute has said so. I mean they could easily challenge it in the laboratory but they have not. Therefore it is valid and stands as the definitive study of the WTC dust. The outcome is that nanothermite, a very high-tech incendiary/explosive was found throughout.

PS. It was even on the news..look..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKvGITcmXOc&feature=player_embedded
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repeated posting of something with the only purpose as to annoy someone is spam Bill. Don't make me report you again...lol

TAM:)
 
dvictr said:
the 3rd Ahmadinejad theory (terrorist did it, but the gov. took advantage of the situation... is a very rational and realistic opinion).

the only conspiracy is whether they "took advantage" before or after the fact.. because clearly... they DID take advantage of the situation.
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I agree that they used the fear invoked by 9/11 to their advantage. It allowed them to get re-elected in 2004. It was, through fear of WMDs and what terrorists might do if Sadam gave them some, also a component that made their march to the Iraq war a little easier.

Still not in the slightest, evidence of their involvement in the orchestration of the attacks, or evidence that they knew and did nothing.

TAM:)
 
Where have we heard this 'Jewish Conspiracy' stuff b4?

Rings a bell, don't it?
The Jews as All-Powerful
Whereas France's defeat was inevitable since, according to an official directive to the press, "the French had placed leadership in the hands of the Jews," British resistance was a result of the fact that "world Jewry...also exerts a controlling influence in England" (68). The invasion of Russia was necessary, according to Hitler in a speech in November 1941, because Stalin "was nothing other than an instrument in the hands of all-powerful Jewry" (121). As for President Roosevelt's "senseless path of intervention," it was due to "a very powerful clique of [Jewish] political and financial power holders" who wanted to "save Jewish, Anglo-Saxon democracy" (84).

Herf also reproduces and analyzes the message of a number of propaganda wall posters displayed in public places throughout the Reich devoted to "unmasking" the Jewish conspiracy behind the Allied powers. One shows Roosevelt, Hitler, and Stalin alongside a banner headline asking: "Who bears the guilt for the war?" A large white arrow cuts across the red background: "Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin bear the responsibility for the war: behind them stands the Jew." The use of the singular connotes that Jews are not individual human beings but part of a single malignant organism.

To prove the existence of the conspiracy, all the rules of logic had to be abandoned. Another wall poster refers to a book by Theodore Kaufmann titled Germany Must Perish. Although Kaufmann held no public office and had been unable to find a publisher for his book in the United States, the Nazi propagandists presented it as an explanation of official Allied war aims.

Herf shows that the Nazi leaders believed fervently in their fantasies, however absurd. On 13 May 1943 the Führer told his propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels, that he had no doubts about the authenticity of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. "No one could be so brilliant as to describe the Jewish striving for world domination as well as the Jews themselves" (213). Such credence toward the Protocols depended on a prior belief, impervious to evidence, in the existence of the "Jewish striving for world domination."

The delusion of the Jewish conspiracy not only provided the justification for the war but also the motivation for the Holocaust. On 30 January 1939, eight months before the invasion of Poland, Hitler-threatening to annihilate the Jews as revenge for his own future aggression-stated that: "if international finance Jewry inside and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into world war, the result will be not the Bolshevization of the earth and thereby the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe" (52).

Although the primary purpose of the anti-Semitic propaganda documented in Herf's book was to explain the regime's actions to the German public, the Nazis also saw it as a means of winning international support and fomenting dissension in the enemy camp. A propaganda directive of 5 May 1943 warned Nazi Party activists that it was "dangerous and false" to drop the Jewish theme after the issue "had been solved in Germany.... For this war is a war of Jews against Germany and its allies. Just as the domestic struggle ended with the anti-Semitic revolution in Germany, so this war must end with an anti-Semitic world revolution" (208).
 
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Those who assert the 'conspiracy' claim re 9/11 appear not to recognize that the common storyline of 9/11 is a conspiracy based on assertions of religious affiliation. It is, therefore, shortsigted, to put it no more harshly than that, to seek to minimize the signficance of the fact that the common storyline of 9/11 has not ever been reliably proven.

So, for starters, let's be clear, the common conspiracy theory of what happened on 9/11, including the religious affiliation claims it makes, has not ever been proven to have happened in that way.
 
Will someone be able to dovetail Iran's president's delusions with jet engines being Plymouth wheel-covers and Judy's insane Beam weapon dustifying the WTC.
 
twinstead said:
this part of the post you responded to:



is critical. If 100 million Americans believe their government was lying about 9/11--hell about ANYTHING this criminal--the courtrooms, respected journals, and the halls of academia would be BUZZING with activity.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: until this debate leaves obscure internet forums and websites and enters the courtrooms, real engineering journals, and real academia you're just another little cult.
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lol
 
So, the leader of a state can be as dumb as the truther trolls left here?

That is scary.
 
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jammonius said:
In short, those who seek to label President Ahmadinejad for calling attention to the truth that there has not ever been a proper determination of what happened on 9/11
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I think Ahmadinejad should worry about the human rights abuses that are going on right now in his own country, than some event that happened 9 years ago in the US.

If anything, this just shows how disconnected Ahmadinejad is.
 
Why do often people at the UN need to make it obvious that they're outraged by leaving the place?

I never got this... tradition?

That's like saying "we prefer to get emotional about things instead of facing the harsh reality".

People say stupid things all the time. Just deal with it, it's not that hard. I prefer to be ironic in these circumstances.
 
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Dani said:
Why do often people at the UN need to make it obvious that they're outraged by leaving the place?

I never got this... tradition?

That's like saying "we prefer to get emotional about things instead of facing the harsh reality".

People say stupid things all the time. I prefer reacting with irony.
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They are just playing to the television audience.
 
9/11-investigator said:
Do you have any idea what the consequences would be for all these dignitaries to support Ahmadinejad?

Don't rock the boat and damage your career, that's what they all think.

If the truth comes out, 'ZOG-USA' would be finished.

It will come out anyway.

P.S. this is what happens to establishment types if they have revisionist views on 911: you are sacked:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=12488
There also was this Canadian female politician who was fired, I forgot her name.
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Called it.
 
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