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YOUR solution to the Mexico Crisis

Legalize Marijuana ( treated the same was a cigarettes/alcohol)
Enforce current immigration laws
Provide better pay, better incentives for those to go in to Border Patrol / ICE
PUNISH businesses that use illegal immigrants (freeze their assets, levy a HUGE fine, etc etc)
PUNISH private citizens who bring over illegal immigrants (ie family members bringing over UNCLE so he can work and hiding him in his home)
 
Fin McR: No specific drug was mentioned when it was suggested it be legalized. I was referring to hardcore drugs such as meth, heroin, crack cocaine, etc. To me MJ is more of a "don't blow smoke in my face type drug and make it obvious that you have it and I will not hassle you." Also I do not think legalizing it would necessarily solve all of the issues we have right now. There is too much money to be made and if certain dealers were allowed to legally sell and others were ignored, I think a sort of black market would still exist and the prices would be set at a rate to undercut the legitimate business. Competitors would not just give up a multi billion dollar trade without a fight or some other scheme.

dtugg: I was referring mostly to addicts than the obvious drug cartel situations. Addicts can be just as dangerous as a dealer with nothing to lose. Too many times I have arrested burglars, thieves, armed robbers, dangerous felons, car thieves, armed robbers, etc. who were junkies trying to get money to buy more drugs. The quality and the price do not matter to me. An addict who has lost everything due to their addiction is till going to have the same problems whether the drug is legal or illegal. Drunks and addicts are similar, but I would much rather deal with a drunk than an addict.

Autumn1971: There is a 60 mile stretch of I-8 between Case Grande, AZ and Gila Bend, AZ with signs posted by the BLM stating that section of highway is extremely dangerous for travelers due to drug and human smuggling. It starts about 50 - 60 miles south of metro Phoenix. The area is so bad local and state law enforcement will not leave that section of highway to go into the desert for any reason what so ever. It is about 100 miles north of the Mexican/AZ border. LOOK IT UP.

rustypouch: I understand crime went down in Europe, but Europeams are a different culture than Americans. If drugs are legal there will still be addicts who need their fix and need money to get their fix and how are they going to get it? The same way they do now. Also there are many other factors not taken into consideration. Would legalizing these drugs reduce the amount of domestic disputes as a result of a drug addict I respond too go down? Would it keep Jack who loves his meth from hallucinating after being up for three days straight because he went to a clinic and got his fix? And, while he is at home tweeking and he hears people in his attic what is his family supposed to do? And what are the police supposed to do after we have been out to his house five or six times in two days, because he thinks he hears people in his attict that don't exist? He has not committed any crimes by calling 911 because he is hallucinating, but he is now become a threat because he is angry and upset at the police because we have not arrested the people in his attic. Finally Jack loses it, grabs a shot gun and starts shooting through his ceiling. His terrified family runs over to the neighbor's house and calls 911. The next thing you know we have a barricaded drug addict. So what difference does it make whether it was legal or illegal? Quality does not play a factor either. Dangerous drugs are dangerous for a reason. That is just one real life example. The drug war is just the tip of the iceberg. Rarely deos anyone think of this type of scenario when talking about drugs.
 
Dancing David said:
Sure , uh huh. Right, they have to invite us, unless you are invading.
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The US is being regularly raided by these cartels, and Mexico is coming close to being a failed state

More invasion?
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Why should the US allow the cartels to continue

Oh sure, right, more prohibition, more profits.
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No, the isea is to make the penalty so severe that people wouldnt think of drug dealing.

Same as now except for invading Mexico.
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So let the cartels continue to operate whenever they are becoming more dangerous. :rolleyes:

lets see our goverment trained and funded death squads who became nacro terrorists.
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Arus808 said:
Legalize Marijuana ( treated the same was a cigarettes/alcohol)
Enforce current immigration laws
Provide better pay, better incentives for those to go in to Border Patrol / ICE
PUNISH businesses that use illegal immigrants (freeze their assets, levy a HUGE fine, etc etc)
PUNISH private citizens who bring over illegal immigrants (ie family members bringing over UNCLE so he can work and hiding him in his home)
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Illegal immigration is a matter of a labor demand in the US being filled by the supply from Mexico (and elsewhere). The problem of lawlessness in Mexico is not caused by this. The only of your suggestions even remotely relevant is the first one.
 
casebro said:
Loan them enough money to fix their own problems.

Foreclose, one of their states at a time.
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This wouldn't work. The money would go into the pockets of corrupt politicians. The suggestions that we legalise dope would solve some of the problem but like another poster said these organized criminal gangs would do something else. Maybe import prostitutes across the border.

Mexicos in chaos and thats the way its going to stay. We live in a scary world.
 
I'm saying it out of ignorance on the subject and I imagine doing this would be easier said than done..

1. Have an all out crackdown and raid on cartels like Giuliani did with the Mafia. Use the police, military, whatever it takes.
2. Clean up Mexican politics.
3. Clean up the Mexican police force.
4. Legalize weed (and nothing else), tax it heavily and grow it inside the states. That will also create tons of jobs and maybe even kick start the American economy.
 
Legalize marijuana. Treat it exactly the same as tobacco.

More of the harm cause by illegal drugs is caused by their being illegal than from the harmful effects of the drugs themselves.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Legalize marijuana. Treat it exactly the same as tobacco.

More of the harm cause by illegal drugs is caused by their being illegal than from the harmful effects of the drugs themselves.
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Though this mexican trade started with Marijuana, it has branched into many, many other things. Hard drugs, weapons, sex slaves.

The time when legalizing marijuana would have simply ended this was a long time ago.

Which is why we need to simply legalize all drugs.

Let a adult decide what they want to put into their body. Establish laws requiring purity; What is on the label MUST be what is inside. Tax these things just like tobacco is taxed. The countercultural cache will go away. There would be no street dealers introducing people to the drugs. The people you buy them from would not be armed thugs. The stores that sell them would check IDs.

Without the hard drugs, they would be down to weapons and underage sex slaves, and those are just not enough to sustain the empires they have built.
 
Re: legalizing all drugs..

Would you really want heroin and crack in your backyard? Have you seen what meth does to a normal healthy person?

Weed is harmless. Alcohol is a big problem as well as tobacco but neither come close to the absolute horror of meth, heroin or crack and I'm saying this from painful experiences with some friends of mine who unfortunately went down that path.

Not all drugs are the same.
 
My idea: Give the Mexican states the option of joining the United States. As our part of the bargain, we massively develop the area. Infrastructure, health, education, police forces, military forces. We get the work done with local manpower as much as possible, paying wages we would on our side of the Rio. Drug cartels are immediately targeted and dealt with. Corruption for government officials should carry a minimum thirty year sentance (both sides of the Rio) with hard labor.

In ten years, the changes would be pretty drastic, I think.
 
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