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NASA Engineer (ret.) is a Twoofie?

pgimeno said:
DRG does indeed say that, but someone in the TM got it wrong and believed it failed to mention WTC7. Since then, lots of people get it the wrong way, which gives a wonderful chance to see how uninformed they are, just blindly believing what others say without checking for themselves or actually reading the report to know what they are criticizing. .
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Including RedIbis in this very thread.
 
LashL said:
Indeed, and he is one of the loons who NYCCAN'T named in their craptacular petition to sit on their laughable vision of a "commission".
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I e-mailed Dr. Mitchell about that and got the following reply:

Dear Len Colby

Dr. Mitchell does not support any group claiming that 9/11 was a US government effort.

Sincerely,

Cathy Beals
Executive Assistant to EDM
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Disbelief said:
Of course, he presents nothing new.
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This is worth emphasizing: He simply spouts the same old things - "suspiciously" high temperatures, free fall, thermite, etc. - that have long been disproven. When you can refute someone with links to Debunking911 and 911Myths, you know the guy hasn't put any real effort into his babble.
 
ElMondoHummus said:
Ryan's already talked about him. In addition to the emptiness of Deets' claims, truthers are guilty of inflating his position in NASA. Par for the course for the "truth" movement.
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Careful:
Ryan says
R.Mackey said:
One more time, Dwain Deets is not a NASA Director, never was a NASA Director, and you are spectacularly dense, even for a Truther, if you can't understand this.
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However:

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/news/NewsReleases/1996/96-10.html

Mr. Dwain A. Deets has been appointed Director, Aerospace Projects Office at the NASA Dryden Flight Research Center, Edwards, CA, Center Director Kenneth J. Szalai announced recently.

Before this appointment, Deets became Director, Research Engineering Division in March 1994 and served as acting division chief from 1990 to 1994. In that position, he directed the research and engineering aspects of the flight research programs at Dryden.
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Oystein said:
Careful:
Ryan says


However:

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/news/NewsReleases/1996/96-10.html
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Sigh.
R.Mackey said:
Dwain Deets is not a former "NASA Director." That title is reserved for Center Directors and the Chief Administrator. Mr. Deets never approached either. The press release is a lie.
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R.Mackey said:
Yes, a lie. Once again, the press release says "NASA Director" etc. Mr. Deets was not a NASA Director. He was not even close. The press release is a lie.

Incidentally, what you posted was not a "resume," it was a "bio" which is short for "biographical sketch." You may wish to file this away for future reference in case you are ever considered for employment.

Mr. Deets was a semi-technical middle manager. According to the bio, he was a Division Chief before being promoted to a position of program management. These are not particularly high positions in the NASA middle-management hierarchy; the only lower position than Division Chief is Branch Chief or the various deputies.

Now, you could say he "directed" a program, but this does not make him a NASA Director, any more than the fact that I am the Chairman of the Barolo Tasting Society in Pasadena, California makes me the Chariman of California. If you can't understand this, then you probably shouldn't be on the Internet without supervision.

Furthermore, as you ignored above, this is utterly beside the point. It doesn't matter what he was or who he was, all that matters is the accuracy and verifiability of what he says. He fails completely in both respects. Yes, he's giving some traveling presentations. Big deal! If he suddenly started claiming that leprechauns lived on the Moon, and gave some traveling presentations to that effect, it would not mean that leprechauns live on the Moon, nor would it mean that it's even remotely possible.

Finally, we've already seen his talk. I'm guessing you haven't. Here it is:



Mr. Deets is a nitwit. I say that with the full weight of evidence behind me.
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He was correcting the truther's "press release" calling Deets a "NASA Director". More properly, he's been Directors for different programs, but not for the organization as a whole. That's what I was referring to when I mentioned credentials inflation on the part of truthers.
 
ElMondoHummus said:
Sigh.



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He was correcting the truther's "press release" calling Deets a "NASA Director". More properly, he's been Directors for different programs, but not for the organization as a whole. That's what I was referring to when I mentioned credentials inflation on the part of truthers.
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I think you guys are splitting hairs here.
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/news/NewsReleases/1996/96-10.html
Titel: "Dwain Deets appointed as NASA Dryden Aerospace Projects Director"

The OP links to
http://www.vcreporter.com/cms/story/detail/faith_in_science/8213/
Which correctly writes:
"Deets, a physicist and engineer, was the former director of NASA’s Dryden Flight Research Center’s Aerospace project"
Yes, they also use the shorthand "the retired NASA director".
But I think a journalist can be excused for not heeding NASA speak precisely. I would not read that article as claiming he was the NASA Director, but a director at NASA - a man in charge of something. Not the janitor.


The point we should be riding here is: Even if he was the Top Number One Man at NASA, the boss of it all, using his title to boost up credibility would be an argument from false authority. A rocket scientist is not a structural engineer, not a chemist, not a fire fighter, and not an expert on demolition. If what he sais is false, no title in the world will save him.
 
Miragememories said:
A director no less.

I wonder how the JREF resident rocket scientist feels about the betrayal?

MM
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He is a liar, not a director in 911 truth. 911 truth falls for lies; 9 years of failure and this nut comes out of the woodwork.

Why can't 911 truth get anything right?
 
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I'm just glad he isn't working for NASA anymore.

Its dangerous to have Truthers dealing with such sensitive equipment.
 
From El Mundo's Quote:

Originally Posted by R.Mackey
Dwain Deets is not a former "NASA Director." That title is reserved for Center Directors and the Chief Administrator. Mr. Deets never approached either. The press release is a lie.
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If it's a lie, you'd have to take it up with NASA. It's straight from their website.

Originally Posted by R.Mackey
Yes, a lie. Once again, the press release says "NASA Director" etc. Mr. Deets was not a NASA Director. He was not even close. The press release is a lie.
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It's kind of hard to argue when the first words of the NASA release is "Mr. Dwain A. Deets has been appointed Director" Perhaps, you're the liar.


Mr. Deets is a nitwit. I say that with the full weight of evidence behind me.
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I think you're saying that with the full weight of Malbec behind you.
 
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