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Dwain Deets is not a former "NASA Director." That title is reserved for Center Directors and the Chief Administrator. Mr. Deets never approached either. The press release is a lie.

Even were this the case, you appear to be arguing solely from authority. Such arguments are worthless. But if you've decided to suspend this rule of argumentation, you need to acknowledge the extreme authority of those opposing your theories, notably Dr. Zdenek Bazant of Northwestern, who is among the most highly lauded and thoroughly published structural engineers in history. There's plenty more, of course, should you persist in bringing a spoon to a gunfight.

Rather than consider the credentials, you should consider the arguments. Mr. Deets has published absolutely nothing. Not even a whitepaper on the subject, as far as I can tell. Until he does, he is not part of the conversation. His traveling presentations are of no scientific value whatsoever, and are clearly aimed at the scientifically illiterate. I'm not sure why you think we would be impressed.
 
Oh look, another angry teenage truther.

Fonebone said:
This is America and the right to petition is garenteed by the Constitution
One boil-sucker derailed NTCCAN's petition. NOT ALLOWED !
In America , the citizens have rights ! Inalienable rights ! Bic ?
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No one denied your right to petition. Unfortunately, NYCCANT didn't really know how to do one and ignored the fact that NYC didn't have the legal powers to carry out the kargaroo court the truthers wanted.

I realize that your leaders lied to you about this, but that isn't our problem.

On October 21st at the University of San Diego, Mr. Dwain Deets....
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Yawn! Thermite, free-fall, lateral ejections....blah blah blah...

Old news.
 
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Fonebone said:
... nearly one thousand architects and engineers who cite evidence of explosive demolition in all three World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9/11...

... Resolutely empirical, non-political, and non-finger-pointing, ae911Truth only asks for a new investigation of the towers’ collapse that does justice to the forensic evidence it presents.
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The second paragraph I quote above contradicts the first. There is nothing empirical, non-political, or non-finger-pointing about claiming the towers were felled by explosives. And the propogation of said belief by the foolish and uninformed does zero justice to the evidence that actually does exist.
 
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Even were this the case, you appear to be arguing solely from authority. Such arguments are worthless. But if you've decided to suspend this rule of argumentation, you need to acknowledge the extreme authority of those opposing your theories, notably Dr. Zdenek Bazant of Northwestern, who is among the most highly lauded and thoroughly published structural engineers in history. There's plenty more, of course, should you persist in bringing a spoon to a gunfight.
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Dammit Ryan... you made me laugh loud enough to startle my coworkers! :D
 
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qUOTE: Chewy> "Ever heard of NYCCAN?

-Fonebone < Yea --- You ever heard of "willful ignorance " ?
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Every time a twoof opens their mouth without checking their claims, or doing any real research

Nearly three thousand people were murdered when those three towers collapsed and the murder scene was immediately sanitized.
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Just like this. Immediately sanitized? By who? They were removing rubble and debris for over 100 days. How is that immediately sanitized?

All of the debris went through hand sorting on site, and then at the fresh kills landfill. Yet, that is immediately sanitized.

You might just want to look up what those words mean.

3,000 US citizens were murdered by 19 terrorists (which is what the entire mountains of physical evidence supports).

This is America and the right to petition is garenteed by the Constitution
One boil-sucker derailed NTCCAN's petition. NOT ALLOWED !
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Oh the truther rant. ITS NOT FAIR!!! You have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievences. Now if you can actually follow the law, you could easily petition for that redress of grievences... how can you claim a fatally flawed petition about granting powers to a CITY commission the right to superceed FEDERAL powers? You can't do that under the constitution.

Try to look that up. One boil? ONE? The entire petition was flawed. And you twoofs were told IN THE BEGINNING it was flawed.. but you went ahead with it anyways. Oopsie.

In America , the citizens have rights ! Inalienable rights ! Bic ?
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Yup we do. I'd almost be willing to bet you can't list any correctly or where they are from.....
One of the best rights of citizens is protection from SLANDER and LIBEL. Which is what twoofs do EVERY TIME they claim it was an inside job. You are slandering and libeling individuals who did nothing wrong, and committed NO CRIME.

Contact: Colorado911Visibility.org
Don Plummer, 970-234-4430

FORMER NASA DIRECTOR SAYS THE WORLD TRADE CENTER TOWERS WERE FELLED BY CONTROLLED DEMOLITION
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Appeal to authority noted and it is a FAIL.

On October 21st at the University of San Diego, Mr. Dwain Deets, former Director of NASA Aerospace Projects, gave a multimedia presentation on behalf of nearly one thousand architects and engineers who cite evidence of explosive demolition in all three World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9/11 and are calling for a new, independent investigation into their destruction. These architects and engineers are listed on their website at ae911Truth.org.
Mr. Deets was an engineering executive with NASA Dryden Flight Research Center for more than 37 years and formerly served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. He received the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the federal government's Senior Executive Service (1988). In 1986, Deets was awarded the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA).
Resolutely empirical, non-political, and non-finger-pointing, ae911Truth only asks for a new investigation of the towers’ collapse that does justice to the forensic evidence it presents. The concerns presented by Mr. Deets and the conclusions of Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth are shared by hundreds of scientists; senior-level military, intelligence, and government officials; firefighters; pilots and aviation professionals; scholars and university professors; 9/11 survivors and family members; and media professionals around the world.
Mr. Deets will continue giving presentations and is in the writers group for ae911Truth.org.
For more clarifying information see: ae911Truth.org, 911PressForTruth.com, 911Truth.org, 911Research.wtc7.net, stj911.org, and 911Review.com.
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Deets was never a director of ANY division at NASA.

so we have a lie in a press release... amazing. Why is it that truthers LIE so much?

Spam noted and reported.

ETA: now lets look at ANOTHER LIE in this "press report" (snicker)
Almost 1000 architects and engineers... You might just want to examine this. The have shift shift shifted their original goals. First it was degreed AND licensed architects and engineers. Then it changed to degreed and/or licensed architects and engineers... now it is architectural and engineering PROFESSIONALS. YOu know.. that includes draftsmen, secretaries, filing clerks... Damn that is sooooo impressive.
 
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Fonebone said:
...Mr. Deets will continue giving presentations and is in the writers group for ae911Truth.org.
For more clarifying information see: ae911Truth.org, 911PressForTruth.com, 911Truth.org, 911Research.wtc7.net, stj911.org, and 911Review.com.
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Those web sites are based on moronic delusions and Mr Deets continues to be an idiot on 911 issues. 8 years of anti-intellectual failure; the name "truth" is a facade for fraud.

9/11 Chewy Defense said:
[URL="http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/911CSI/"]www.ipetitions.com/petition/911CSI/[/URL]
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Jones signed up using his real name, Dolt. Woo
 
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R Mackey > "Dwain Deets is not a former "NASA Director." That title is reserved for Center Directors and the Chief Administrator. Mr. Deets never approached either. The press release is a lie."

-Fonebone < Lie eh ? The resume below is from the NASA.gov site
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Dwain Deets appointed as NASA Dryden Aerospace Projects Director
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Mr. Dwain A. Deets has been appointed Director, Aerospace Projects Office at the NASA Dryden Flight Research Center, Edwards, CA, Center Director Kenneth J. Szalai announced recently.

Before this appointment, Deets became Director, Research Engineering Division in March 1994 and served as acting division chief from 1990 to 1994. In that position, he directed the research and engineering aspects of the flight research programs at Dryden.

Deets has had several special assignments since September 1994 that took him away temporarily from the Research Engineering Division responsibilities. He led the preparation of the Dryden response to the NASA Federal Laboratory Review. He was Chairman of the NASA Non-Advocate Review of the Reusable Launch Vehicle (RLV) program in 1995, and will again serve in the capacity for the 1996 review. Among the programs Deets has been associated with at Dryden during his NASA career are the F-8 Digital Fly-By-Wire aircraft, the X-29 Forward Swept Wing technology demonstrator aircraft, the F-16 Advanced Fighter Technology Integration (AFTI) aircraft and the Highly Maneuverable Aircraft Technology (HiMAT) aircraft.

In 1986 Deets completed a special assignment at NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C., where he led an effort to define the needs for flight research and flight testing within NASA. He then headed development of a flight research strategy for what was then NASA's Office of Aeronautics and Space Technology, now called the Office of Aeronautics. This effort led to a major increase in emphasis on flight research by NASA.

In 1986 Deets received the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics Award. Among his other awards are the NASA Exceptional Service Award, presented in 1988. He was included in "Who's Who in America" for 1990-91 and "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" from 1993 to the present.

He was the 1988-90 chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. He has also been a member of the AIAA technical committee on Society and Aerospace Technology from 1990 to 1995.

He is a 1961 graduate of Occidental College, Los Angeles. He earned a master of science degree in physics from San Diego State College in 1962 and then a master of science degree in engineering, as part of the Engineering Executive Program, at UCLA in 1978.
 
Fonebone said:
R Mackey > "Dwain Deets is not a former "NASA Director." That title is reserved for Center Directors and the Chief Administrator. Mr. Deets never approached either. The press release is a lie."

-Fonebone < Lie eh ? The resume below is from the NASA.gov site
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Yes, a lie. Once again, the press release says "NASA Director" etc. Mr. Deets was not a NASA Director. He was not even close. The press release is a lie.

Incidentally, what you posted was not a "resume," it was a "bio" which is short for "biographical sketch." You may wish to file this away for future reference in case you are ever considered for employment.

Mr. Deets was a semi-technical middle manager. According to the bio, he was a Division Chief before being promoted to a position of program management. These are not particularly high positions in the NASA middle-management hierarchy; the only lower position than Division Chief is Branch Chief or the various deputies.

Now, you could say he "directed" a program, but this does not make him a NASA Director, any more than the fact that I am the Chairman of the Barolo Tasting Society in Pasadena, California makes me the Chariman of California. If you can't understand this, then you probably shouldn't be on the Internet without supervision.

Furthermore, as you ignored above, this is utterly beside the point. It doesn't matter what he was or who he was, all that matters is the accuracy and verifiability of what he says. He fails completely in both respects. Yes, he's giving some traveling presentations. Big deal! If he suddenly started claiming that leprechauns lived on the Moon, and gave some traveling presentations to that effect, it would not mean that leprechauns live on the Moon, nor would it mean that it's even remotely possible.

Finally, we've already seen his talk. I'm guessing you haven't. Here it is:



Mr. Deets is a nitwit. I say that with the full weight of evidence behind me.
 
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Ohhh, man... the guy giving the introduction had a title "Toreros for Truth". I was about to go on a huge rant about the stupidity of the concept of "Bullfighters for 9/11 Truth". :o

For the record, the mascot of the University of San Diego (note: Not the University of California, San Diego (UCSD), but the private institution USD) is the "Torero". Thank goodness I looked! You guys came this close to getting an epic level rant from me on this.
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Welcome to the forums fonebone!

Don't forget to introduce yourself in the welcome forums and also make sure you browse the help forums! They have some good info on the quoting functions :)

Oh and 911 was not an inside job, brah.
 
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Veterans for 911 truth.
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..thats gotta be some hardcore fobbits,or complete retards..noone I have encountered while in uniform(even in an european army) held such moronic beliefs,at least none that saw any action of any sort, the whole name ".Veterans for 911 truth" have POGue/.cushy deployment /REMF written all over it...
 
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