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Ed All 43 videos "Second Hit"" [Explosion]at WTC 2: Plane or No Plane?

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Originally Posted by jammonius-Triforcharity,

Yours is a revealing post. It reveals that you have fallen for the PSYOP hook, line, sinker, bait, tackle, and everything else. Your acquiescence in the substitution of mock sympathy for finding out what actually happened, for being distracted from the hideous shock&awe control tactic used on us is really quite extraordinary.

Whoa there big boy! Before you start claiming that anyone has fallen for anything, maybe you should offer up some proof of what “anything” really is. So far, all we have is your word. And I and many others think that your word is worth less than a plug nickel adjusted for inflation.
 
Boy, if I'd known that posting a photo of Dr. Wood and Mr. Johnson would result in a sideshow, I would have skipped it. I assume Compus will continue doing what Compus was doing, but, in other respects, I do hope we can get back into NO PLANE proofs sometime soon.

sheesh:mad:

94 pages and not a single no plane proof so far. Why start now?
 
94 pages and not a single no plane proof so far. Why start now?

Interesting. Let me check for accuracy, are you one who claims the existence of 1000s of witnesses to PLANE SPOTTING, even though only a bit more than a handful of legitimate witness claims have been shown to exist in this thread? And, are you one of those debunker types who continues not to even know there are valid, reliable witnesses who reliably report neither seeing nor hearing a plane, let alone a jetliner, despite being perfectly positioned to have seen one had it been there?

This thread provides a very good database showing that the the claim there are 1000s of PLANE SPOTTER witnesses has not been proven, cannot be proven and is not true. Rather, it is a false statement that is often repeated in the manner of propaganda.

Of course, there is little wonder that debunkers would stoop to that low level tactic, goodness knows they haven't got any other reliable proof.

After this thread totally refuted the radar claim, some debunkers actually stopped listing radar as a part of the mantra of false proof claims.

Seeing that happen in this thread was very rewarding and revealing.
 
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Interesting. Let me check for accuracy, are you one who claims the existence of 1000s of witnesses to PLANE SPOTTING, even though only a bit more than a handful of legitimate witness claims have been shown to exist in this thread? And, are you one of those debunker types who continues not to even know there are valid, reliable witnesses who reliably report neither seeing nor hearing a plane, let alone a jetliner, despite being perfectly positioned to have seen one had it been there?

Are you one who claims any "no plane witnesses even though by your own logic none exist?:D
 
You are welcome for the link. You are not alone in formulating what you choose to 'believe' based on what you see on teevee. A lot of people are likewise afflicted. The 9/11 psyop counted on that tendency.

What is your favorite 'reality' show? :boggled:

Jammonius, please try to contact Stanley Praimnath and talk with him. He saw Flt UA 175 come and slam into his 81st office floor at WTC2, and miracles of miracles...he survived. He only managed to escape with the aid of a complete stranger, Brian Clark; and they are now brothers for life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Praimnath

He just might convince you of the truth that airplanes were used as weapons on Sept. 11; and that is the reality.
 
Interesting. Let me check for accuracy, are you one who claims the existence of 1000s of witnesses to PLANE SPOTTING, even though only a bit more than a handful of legitimate witness claims have been shown to exist in this thread? And, are you one of those debunker types who continues not to even know there are valid, reliable witnesses who reliably report neither seeing nor hearing a plane, let alone a jetliner, despite being perfectly positioned to have seen one had it been there?

Actually it was probably tens-of-thousands or even hundreds-of-thousands. Irrelevant though with all of the other evidence.

This thread provides a very good database showing that the the claim there are 1000s of PLANE SPOTTER witnesses has not been proven, cannot be proven and is not true. Rather, it is a false statement that is often repeated in the manner of propaganda.

It can't be proven per se but it is true whether you like it or not. But again, that's irrelevant.

Of course, there is little wonder that debunkers would stoop to that low level tactic, goodness knows they haven't got any other reliable proof.

Pure ignorance on your part.

After this thread totally refuted the radar claim, some debunkers actually stopped listing radar as a part of the mantra of false proof claims.

Seeing that happen in this thread was very rewarding and revealing.

Only in the fantasy world that you have created for yourself. That is very sad and revealing.



I don't know why I bother arguing with a proven liar. I must be crazy.
 
Hey, don't blame us; Those two were a side show attraction long before anyone posted their pictures here.

ETA: The no-plane proof has been debunked, mostly by the thousands of eyewitness who saw planes crash into the towers with their own eyes, the millions who witnessed it on TV, the fact that there is no evidence for your imaginary conspiracy centered around imaginary technology and imaginary weapons systems. You know, that sort of thing.

ETA2: Forgot to add the radar data to the above list that cuts to the heart of your delusion.

Thanks EventHorizon.
 
Jammonius, please try to contact Stanley Praimnath and talk with him. He saw Flt UA 175 come and slam into his 81st office floor at WTC2, and miracles of miracles...he survived. He only managed to escape with the aid of a complete stranger, Brian Clark; and they are now brothers for life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Praimnath

He just might convince you of the truth that airplanes were used as weapons on Sept. 11; and that is the reality.

Oh boy, Quick, you are indeed a victim of teevee. I think that "brothers for life" ditty is a part of a teevee docu-drama depicting Stanley Praimnath's statement that he was standing in his office on the 81st Floor of the South Tower when he looked and saw a Boeing 767 jetliner coming at him (at 550mph+/-) and he then dove under his desk as the wing of the plane came at him and his desk saved him from being injured by the mean-old jetliner that came right through his window.

Quick, the problem with teevee is that it is an illusion. It distorts reality and substitutes illusion for reality.

In most contexts, most people would be able to ascertain that Stanley Praimnath's story of miraculous survival is utter, complete, and total nonsense. That man no more survived the crash of a Boeing 767 through his window than you did.

Instead, he survived the pyrotechnical (firecracker-like) explosion at the South Tower.

all the best
 
ETA2: Forgot to add the radar data to the above list that cuts to the heart of your delusion.

Thanks EventHorizon.

There was no "forgetfullness". In fact, that is not the first time we've seen evidence that posters around here no longer even try to make the 'radar' claim.

That claim has been thoroughly falsified in this thread. Once again, that is one of the things I think this thread can be accredited with.

See, for instance:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6233437&postcount=3405
 
There was no "forgetfullness". In fact, that is not the first time we've seen evidence that posters around here no longer even try to make the 'radar' claim.

That claim has been thoroughly falsified in this thread. Once again, that is one of the things I think this thread can be accredited with.

See, for instance:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6233437&postcount=3405

I'm truly sorry I missed that particular post. It was nearly 90 degrees here yesterday. The wind created by all that hand waving could have cooled things down considerably.
 
Oh boy, Quick, you are indeed a victim of teevee. I think that "brothers for life" ditty is a part of a teevee docu-drama depicting Stanley Praimnath's statement that he was standing in his office on the 81st Floor of the South Tower when he looked and saw a Boeing 767 jetliner coming at him (at 550mph+/-) and he then dove under his desk as the wing of the plane came at him and his desk saved him from being injured by the mean-old jetliner that came right through his window.

Quick, the problem with teevee is that it is an illusion. It distorts reality and substitutes illusion for reality.

In most contexts, most people would be able to ascertain that Stanley Praimnath's story of miraculous survival is utter, complete, and total nonsense. That man no more survived the crash of a Boeing 767 through his window than you did.

Instead, he survived the pyrotechnical (firecracker-like) explosion at the South Tower.

all the best

So, what you're telling me is that my sister-in-law and the two fireman I know personally are lying to me when they describe the planes flying into the WTC? One of my good friends witnessed the plane that hit the Pentagon. Is he a liar?

Stop rapping this crazy BS and find something better to do with your life.
 
There was no "forgetfullness". In fact, that is not the first time we've seen evidence that posters around here no longer even try to make the 'radar' claim.

That claim has been thoroughly falsified in this thread. Once again, that is one of the things I think this thread can be accredited with.

See, for instance:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6233437&postcount=3405

I've figured it out. Jammy lives in bizarro world where everything is backwards. He sees people saying they saw planes hitting the towers and he says it's proof that they didn't. He sees posts debunking his silly theories and claims that the debunking has been falsified. It's strange. He sees the exact opposite of what's actually happening. There really is no point in debating someone that delusional.
 
There was no "forgetfullness". In fact, that is not the first time we've seen evidence that posters around here no longer even try to make the 'radar' claim.

That claim has been thoroughly falsified in this thread. Once again, that is one of the things I think this thread can be accredited with.

See, for instance:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6233437&postcount=3405

Conventional radar can detect a plane. The transponder was only for ID purposes only (i.e. AA77).

How do you think the British were able to track German bombers coming in from France during WWII, with no transponders of any kind to make a positive ID?
 
Interesting. Let me check for accuracy, are you one who claims the existence of 1000s of witnesses to PLANE SPOTTING, even though only a bit more than a handful of legitimate witness claims have been shown to exist in this thread? And, are you one of those debunker types who continues not to even know there are valid, reliable witnesses who reliably report neither seeing nor hearing a plane, let alone a jetliner, despite being perfectly positioned to have seen one had it been there?

One can be a witness to something without giving a statement in writing to that effect. The videos and eye witness reports show thousands were watching the towers as the second plane hit. Nobody claims there was no plane but simply say they saw the explosion caused by the plane. This is to be expected as the South tower was not the focus of attention and the sound of the plane would not have reached people close to the towers until after it hit. People would not necessarily look up until it hit and thus only saw the explosion. However many people did see the planes, there are multiple quite clear videos and eye witnesses testimonies.

This thread provides a very good database showing that the the claim there are 1000s of PLANE SPOTTER witnesses has not been proven, cannot be proven and is not true. Rather, it is a false statement that is often repeated in the manner of propaganda.

One reliable witness is all it takes Jammo, just one.

Of course, there is little wonder that debunkers would stoop to that low level tactic, goodness knows they haven't got any other reliable proof.

Well apart from 43 videos :)

After this thread totally refuted the radar claim, some debunkers actually stopped listing radar as a part of the mantra of false proof claims.

This thread proved conclusively that the Radar data does not contradict the videos. STOP LYING!:mad:

Seeing that happen in this thread was very rewarding and revealing.

Where? I proved to you that you were wrong! STOP LYING!:mad:
 
There was no "forgetfullness". In fact, that is not the first time we've seen evidence that posters around here no longer even try to make the 'radar' claim.

That claim has been thoroughly falsified in this thread. Once again, that is one of the things I think this thread can be accredited with.

See, for instance:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6233437&postcount=3405

Hi Jammonius.

With no planes what did make the towers fall?


I see where you've insinuated various scenarios but I'd like to know what you think.


To put my cards on the table I think damage by planes followed by fire produced a gravity collapse.
 
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Oh boy, Quick, you are indeed a victim of teevee. I think that "brothers for life" ditty is a part of a teevee docu-drama depicting Stanley Praimnath's statement that he was standing in his office on the 81st Floor of the South Tower when he looked and saw a Boeing 767 jetliner coming at him (at 550mph+/-) and he then dove under his desk as the wing of the plane came at him and his desk saved him from being injured by the mean-old jetliner that came right through his window.

Quick, the problem with teevee is that it is an illusion. It distorts reality and substitutes illusion for reality.

That was a "reconstruction" not an illusion nor do they pretend it was anything else.

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n most contexts, most people would be able to ascertain that Stanley Praimnath's story of miraculous survival is utter, complete, and total nonsense. That man no more survived the crash of a Boeing 767 through his window than you did.

Why??? I see nothing extraordinary in his account. The plane did not directly hit him or his desk and we have seen many other people on the floors hit by the plane survived the initial impact, only to later to be driven to jump to their death because of the fire. Stanley was simply lucky in that he was on the lowest floor impacted and still had a staircase to escape down.

Instead, he survived the pyrotechnical (firecracker-like) explosion at the South Tower.

Do you imagine people jumped 80 plus floors to their deaths because of a pyrotechnical (firecracker-like) explosion???:mad:
 
On the contrary, the hi-lited portion you wrote sums you up perfectly, jammonius.

FYI, in your 12th post of this thread, on the very first page, you provided a link to a video that decides the question of whether or not a plane hit WTC2.

Here's the link again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc2tfVuaSrg

Upon viewing, my process of reasoning easily brought a verdict of YES, a plane hit the building.

Thanks for the link.


Yep, definitely a plane. You would have to be retarded or insane to think otherwise.
 
You are welcome for the link. You are not alone in formulating what you choose to 'believe' based on what you see on teevee. A lot of people are likewise afflicted. The 9/11 psyop counted on that tendency.

What is your favorite 'reality' show? :boggled:

Is it not simply more likely that you are insane and can't tell reality from fantasy?

I'm a qualified professional engineer and I can find nothing in the storyline or evidence that does not fit.

You are silly little airhead who cannot do math, cannot comprehend English and have so little life experience that you do not even recognize a rejection letter when you see one, recognize the noise a jet airliner makes, realize that sound travels relatively slowly, cant read a graph, does not understand even the basics of physics.......YOU CANNOT EVEN ANSWER SIMPLE YES OR NO QUESTIONS!:rolleyes:
 
Let this thread die.....93 pages of hand waving, dodging, and well just plain nonsense by our resident no-planer, who by the way has yet to refute any of the basic evidence that shows planes were used on Sept 11th, 2001. Not some imaginary technology that projects holograms on opaque backgrounds, not some shadow thingy that should have bounced off of the towers and fallen to the ground. The evidence is overwhelming. Jammo take the blue pill and rejoin society already.
 
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