Ed All 43 videos "Second Hit"" [Explosion]at WTC 2: Plane or No Plane?

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Please explain why if the NWO or MIC could kill thousands on 911, these two have not had tragic accidents?

Because it would be less noticeable to have an agent plant several kilograms of cocaine and heroin in their homes while they are out shopping and then phone in an anonymous tip.

"Crazy People Who Think UFOs Blew Up WTC Busted With Lots and Lots of Drugs, Community Amused, but not Surprised"

It gets rid of the opposition for a good 20 years AND provides a built-in reason to ignore them when they get out.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

I have friends who are schizpohrenic and autistic - though nobody who is both. I can just about stomach your need to suggest that Jammonius is schizophrenic (though I don't think it helps much, or sets a good example, or shows you in a good light), but you are even less well informed about autism. It isn't a mental illness, we all exist somewhere on the autistic spectrum and there is no doubt that some of your behaviours are 'symptoms' of autism (if only 'symptom' was remotely appropriate a term in relation to autists) - your obsessive need to argue pointlessly with someone you believe has schizophrenic paranoid delusions, for example. Here's a clue: that won't work.

So please, lay off the autists - you have enough on Jammonius without needing to insult him by insulting all autists. Chances are a good few posters here are Aspergian. Are they part of the 'them' you just shunted all autists off to? The one that's so dangerously distinct from 'us'? How do you get by without seeking to impose some order and control in your life?

Autism is no protection against mental illness .

My nephew is high function Autistic and I'm pretty sure I would be diagnosed with Asbergers if I were at school today. I am fully aware that its not a mental illness and I never said it was. I was explaining why Jammo may have a preoccupation with irrelevant data that's all. No insult was intended just as no insult is intended when I suggest Jammo talks to his Doctor. It is just a simple factual observation.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Because it would be less noticeable to have an agent plant several kilograms of cocaine and heroin in their homes while they are out shopping and then phone in an anonymous tip.

"Crazy People Who Think UFOs Blew Up WTC Busted With Lots and Lots of Drugs, Community Amused, but not Surprised"

It gets rid of the opposition for a good 20 years AND provides a built-in reason to ignore them when they get out.

Yeah that would work too. In fact why bother doing that when they could simply download illegal porn and a faked computer download record......
Jammo why are you not in Jail???

 

[sheeplesnshills]

But who's that third person on the left? Why has this photograph been altered in aspect ratio and cropped so close to its ostensible subject in violation of basic rules of composition and portraiture? Was it to hide that person? Why do you not wish us to see him?

I have shown sufficient evidence of alteration and concealment of vital information to render this photograph inadmissible, except to show that you do not wish us to know the full truth, but only a limited portion that you show us in order to create a false impression. You want us to see two people, when there were three.

That photo is in fact a No-Judy-Wood photo. Thank you for posting it.

Respectfully,
Myriad

Yes that picture looks faked to me. It clearly proves that Judy does not exist.

 

[CompusMentus]

The crew and passengers of United Airlines Flight 175

On the morning of September 11 2001, United Airlines Flight 175 was flying to Los Angeles from Boston, and was hijacked by Islamic terrorists. Shortly after taking off it was deliberately flown into the South Tower of the World Trade Centre, New York.

There were no survivors.

UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175 PASSENGERS

Jesus Sanchez, 45, was a passenger on Flight 175. He lived in Hudson, Massachusetts. Mr Sanchez was a long-time worker in the airline industry, working at Continental Airlines for 10 years before joining United Airlines in 1998 as a customer service representative. He enjoyed travelling to exotic places and was off-duty and headed for another excursion with co-workers when he died.

Known as JR to his family, friends and work colleagues, he was born Ponce, Puerto Rico, and raised in Brooklyn, N.Y.

He left behind his father, Jesus Sanchez Rosado of Puerto Rico; a son, Marc, of East Boston; a daughter, Felicita, of Maryland; five brothers, Julio Sanabria, Daniel Sanabria, Jesus Francisco, Jesus Manuel, and Miguel Angel; five sisters, Rosa Rosado, Mirta Sanabria, Amparo Lagares, Lourdes, and Maria Sanchez; and a granddaughter.

Mr Sanchez is believed to have been one of the people stabbed by the hijackers during the terrorist takeover of Flight 175.

A great father; an excellent friend to all; a dilligent and much loved employee of United; everyone who had the good fortune to call him a friend will forever hold that friendship in their hearts, and his beautiful smile in their memories!

Source: HERE HERE HERE

Immutable facts. Unassailable reason.


Compus

 

[triforcharity]

You are confused, and that is understandable. There's little point in trying to help you out as you might well revel in your confusion.

It should be obvious, but isn't, that there is no conflict between assertions that what happened on 9/11 has not ever been properly explained and that the common storyline of what happened is utterly false, on the one hand; and, expressions of sorrow, sympathy, dismay and utter contempt for what was done to us, on the other.

Calling attention to the fact that neither what happened, let alone who did it, has ever been explained has not got a darn thing to do with sympathy for victims.

And, as I have frequently said, neither you nor anyone else who clings to belief in the common storyline of 9/11 is in the least bit more sympathetic to victims than I am.

You **** on their graves. Didn't you ask BigAl something disgusting just today?

WARNING- This post is especially disgusting, and will certainly have you wanting to violate the MA.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6301238&postcount=74

Yeah, you're disgusting.

 

[triforcharity]

Separate and apart from all else that can and will be said about this ongoing posting project, Ellen Mariani has been outspoken among victims family members in calling attention to the falsity of the common storyline of 9/11.

Hey, Compus, how many other victims family members have been calling attention to falsity? It's not just Ellen Mariani, right?

She believe many things, and most of which are not true.

Here is hre open letter,
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0311/S00262.htm

and here is her lawsuit. http://nancho.net/911/mariani.html

Here is the conclusion
http://www.kentlaw.edu/perritt/courses/civpro/motdismiss.pdf

/OT

 

[triforcharity]

You really think those two women look that much alike? Other than the fact that they are both brunette how do they look alike?

Eta: even if they did look similar, so what? My wife looks a lot like porn star Blair Segal,

Lucky bastard!!

 

[jammonius]

You **** on their graves. Didn't you ask BigAl something disgusting just today?

WARNING- This post is especially disgusting, and will certainly have you wanting to violate the MA.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6301238&postcount=74

Yeah, you're disgusting.

Triforcharity,

Yours is a revealing post. It reveals that you have fallen for the PSYOP hook, line, sinker, bait, tackle, and everything else. Your acquiescence in the substitution of mock sympathy for finding out what actually happened, for being distracted from the hideous shock&awe control tactic used on us is really quite extraordinary.

I don't know if you're capable of rational analysis or not. Chances are you can engage in that process, provided the subject matter is not that of 9/11.

Your post reveals that you allow mock sympathy to trump even the fact that it was the VICTIMS' FAMILIES themselves who were among the strongest and most effective advocates for the truth of 9/11. They realized sooner and more deeply than most that what was being said about what happened was stupid, unproven and manipulative.

Now, here you come, effectively saying, ask no questions and only feel sorry for the poor victims, when, in fact, the victims themselves have always been in the forefront of wanting to FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED and WHO DID THIS TO US.

In effect, therefore, your post reveals, analytically understood, an attempt to thwart what the victims you profess sympathy for want most; namely:

TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED AND WHO DID IT.

There has not ever been a proper determination of what happened on 9/11 and the common storyline is utterly and completely false.

Stop exploiting fake sympathy for victims and stop using that exploitation to turn attention away from the NO PLANE facts that are staring you right in your face, throughout this thread. And that goes for Compus, too, but I shall deal with the ongoing PROPAGANDA PROJECT being posted up by Compus in due course.

 

[jammonius]

She believe many things, and most of which are not true.

Here is hre open letter,
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0311/S00262.htm

and here is her lawsuit. http://nancho.net/911/mariani.html

Here is the conclusion
http://www.kentlaw.edu/perritt/courses/civpro/motdismiss.pdf

/OT

Triforcharity,

See, I told you so in my prior post.

Here it is from a person whose spouse is missing and presumed dead and supposedly was a passenger on supposed Flight 175. Notice how the questions posed by Ellen Mariani actually go to the essence of the NO PLANE claim; namely, the lack of any proof of either a jetliner or a crash:

"We the families of 9/11 victims need to have answers to the following questions:

1. Why were 29 pages of the 9/11committee report personally censored at your request?

2. Where are the "black boxes" from Flight 11 and Flight 175?

3. Where are the "voice recorders" from Flight 11 and Flight 175?

4. Why can't we gain access to the complete air traffic control records for Flight 11 and Flight 175?

5. Where are the airport surveillance tapes that show the passengers boarding the doomed flights?

6. When will complete passenger lists for all of the flights be released?

7. Why did your brother Jeb (the Governor of Florida) go to the offices of the Hoffman Aviation School and order that flight records and files be removed? These files were then put on a C130 government cargo plane and flown out of the country. Where were they taken and who ordered it done?"

Source: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0311/S00262.htm

The above is from your own source, Triforcharity. Had you actually read it, you should have been able to determine that you are engaging in exploitation of victims families by using fake sympathy to discount the fact that it is among the victims family members that some of the strongest proponents of the falsity of the common storyline of 9/11 are to be found.

sheesh

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Triforcharity,

Yours is a revealing post. It reveals that you have fallen for the PSYOP hook, line, sinker, bait, tackle, and everything else. Your acquiescence in the substitution of mock sympathy for finding out what actually happened, for being distracted from the hideous shock&awe control tactic used on us is really quite extraordinary.

I don't know if you're capable of rational analysis or not. Chances are you can engage in that process, provided the subject matter is not that of 9/11.

Your post reveals that you allow mock sympathy to trump even the fact that it was the VICTIMS' FAMILIES themselves who were among the strongest and most effective advocates for the truth of 9/11. They realized sooner and more deeply than most that what was being said about what happened was stupid, unproven and manipulative.

Now, here you come, effectively saying, ask no questions and only feel sorry for the poor victims, when, in fact, the victims themselves have always been in the forefront of wanting to FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED and WHO DID THIS TO US.

In effect, therefore, your post reveals, analytically understood, an attempt to thwart what the victims you profess sympathy for want most; namely:

TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED AND WHO DID IT.

There has not ever been a proper determination of what happened on 9/11 and the common storyline is utterly and completely false.

Stop exploiting fake sympathy for victims and stop using that exploitation to turn attention away from the NO PLANE facts that are staring you right in your face, throughout this thread. And that goes for Compus, too, but I shall deal with the ongoing PROPAGANDA PROJECT being posted up by Compus in due course.

Jammonius, maybe you should just go away for a while. Just log off the internet... the whole thing and not come back until the snow melts or something.

 

[Jackanory]

Triforcharity,

See, I told you so in my prior post.

Here it is from a person whose spouse is missing and presumed dead and supposedly was a passenger on supposed Flight 175. Notice how the questions posed by Ellen Mariani actually go to the essence of the NO PLANE claim; namely, the lack of any proof of either a jetliner or a crash:

"We the families of 9/11 victims need to have answers to the following questions:

1. Why were 29 pages of the 9/11committee report personally censored at your request?

2. Where are the "black boxes" from Flight 11 and Flight 175?

3. Where are the "voice recorders" from Flight 11 and Flight 175?

4. Why can't we gain access to the complete air traffic control records for Flight 11 and Flight 175?

5. Where are the airport surveillance tapes that show the passengers boarding the doomed flights?

6. When will complete passenger lists for all of the flights be released?

7. Why did your brother Jeb (the Governor of Florida) go to the offices of the Hoffman Aviation School and order that flight records and files be removed? These files were then put on a C130 government cargo plane and flown out of the country. Where were they taken and who ordered it done?"

Source: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0311/S00262.htm

The above is from your own source, Triforcharity. Had you actually read it, you should have been able to determine that you are engaging in exploitation of victims families by using fake sympathy to discount the fact that it is among the victims family members that some of the strongest proponents of the falsity of the common storyline of 9/11 are to be found.

sheesh

Does Ellen Mariani agree that 911 was an inside jobby or is she just behaving like a berieved family member angry at her loss and lack of specific answers? Reality of a tragic loss often brings out a 'need to know all' situation for closure. Her family member didnt die in their sleep. They were murdered in an appaling torturous manner with no way out. Wouldnt that gnore away at your souyl if it happened to your mother, father, brother, sister, child? Nowhere does she state that it was an inside jobby.

You are a sick individual indeed. The Ed Felt comments in a previous post should be enough to kick your sorry arse out. If no one else has reported your sickness then I do so here.

 

[jammonius]

Does Ellen Mariani agree that 911 was an inside jobby or is she just behaving like a berieved family member angry at her loss and lack of specific answers? Reality of a tragic loss often brings out a 'need to know all' situation for closure. Her family member didnt die in their sleep. They were murdered in an appaling torturous manner with no way out. Wouldnt that gnore away at your souyl if it happened to your mother, father, brother, sister, child? Nowhere does she state that it was an inside jobby.

You are a sick individual indeed. The Ed Felt comments in a previous post should be enough to kick your sorry arse out. If no one else has reported your sickness then I do so here.

Your post is absurd on its face. And, furthermore, you do not represent victims families or their sentiments any moreso or less so than I or anyone else. You also do not own the flag and you do not have a monopoly on virtue.

You can, of course, report anything you like. However, in so doing, kindly consider examining the truth of the proposition that you do not have any more right to express sympathy for victims than anyone else does and you sure as heck do not have any more right than I do. Also, in reporting my post, you may want to ask guidance as to whether you can claim a poster is "sick"? Come to think of it, I need to here ask you to clarify what you mean by the following comment:

"You are a sick individual indeed."

Rather than explain it, you might want to consider retracting it. If you neither explain it nor retract it within 1 hour from the time of this post, I may report your post. However, I don't usually engage in that tattle-tale process in that your post reflects upon you and cannot say a darn thing about either me or anyone else you do not know.

You also should give consideration to refraining from exploitation of 9/11 victims by ceasing and desisting from hiding behind sympathy as a means of squelching discussion of what did or did not happen on 9/11.

I know you likely don't grasp these concepts very well in that your post, as quoted above, reveals that you are likely stuck in an emotional place that prevents you from engaging in a process of reasoned posting on the issue of what happened (and did not happen) on 9/11.

That is too bad.

 

[CompusMentus]

The crew and passengers of United Airlines Flight 175

On the morning of September 11 2001, United Airlines Flight 175 was flying to Los Angeles from Boston, and was hijacked by Islamic terrorists. Shortly after taking off it was deliberately flown into the South Tower of the World Trade Centre, New York.

There were no survivors.

UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175 PASSENGERS

Michael and Kathleen Shearer, were passengers on Flight 175. They lived in Dover, New Hampshire. The couple were both retired, Mrs. Shearer was a doll maker and Mr. Shearer an engineer. They were on their way to Los Angeles to visit relatives when they died.

The Shearers left behind 2 daughters, Karrie and Mary and one grandaughter, Shea.

Source: HERE


Immutable facts. Unassailable reason.


Compus

 

[quicknthedead]

I know you likely don't grasp these concepts very well in that your post, as quoted above, reveals that you are likely stuck in an emotional place that prevents you from engaging in a process of reasoned posting on the issue of what happened (and did not happen) on 9/11.

On the contrary, the hi-lited portion you wrote sums you up perfectly, jammonius.

FYI, in your 12th post of this thread, on the very first page, you provided a link to a video that decides the question of whether or not a plane hit WTC2.

Here's the link again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc2tfVuaSrg

Upon viewing, my process of reasoning easily brought a verdict of YES, a plane hit the building.

Thanks for the link.

 

[jammonius]

On the contrary, the hi-lited portion you wrote sums you up perfectly, jammonius.

FYI, in your 12th post of this thread, on the very first page, you provided a link to a video that decides the question of whether or not a plane hit WTC2.

Here's the link again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc2tfVuaSrg

Upon viewing, my process of reasoning easily brought a verdict of YES, a plane hit the building.

Thanks for the link.

You are welcome for the link. You are not alone in formulating what you choose to 'believe' based on what you see on teevee. A lot of people are likewise afflicted. The 9/11 psyop counted on that tendency.

What is your favorite 'reality' show?

 

[Bell]

But who's that third person on the left? Why has this photograph been altered in aspect ratio and cropped so close to its ostensible subject in violation of basic rules of composition and portraiture? Was it to hide that person? Why do you not wish us to see him?

I have shown sufficient evidence of alteration and concealment of vital information to render this photograph inadmissible, except to show that you do not wish us to know the full truth, but only a limited portion that you show us in order to create a false impression. You want us to see two people, when there were three.

That photo is in fact a No-Judy-Wood photo. Thank you for posting it.

Respectfully,
Myriad

Respectfully Myriad, but I have to debunk your claim...

Eta: Except the part about the bad composition...

 

[DGM]

Respectfully Myriad, but I have to debunk your claim...

Eta: Except the part about the bad composition...

It is plain to see that this picture was framed to include whoever was sitting in the chair in the foreground. NO PHOTOGRAPHER would offset the subject like this. The persons image MUST have been removed through very high tech (MIC only) image wizardry that we can only imagine.

I here by state that this photo is altered and none of these people can be said to have met.

This evidence is IRREFUTABLE!.

 

[jammonius]

It is plain to see that this picture was framed to include whoever was sitting in the chair in the foreground. NO PHOTOGRAPHER would offset the subject like this. The persons image MUST have been removed through very high tech (MIC only) image wizardry that we can only imagine.

I here by state that this photo is altered and none of these people can be said to have met.

This evidence is IRREFUTABLE!.

Boy, if I'd known that posting a photo of Dr. Wood and Mr. Johnson would result in a sideshow, I would have skipped it. I assume Compus will continue doing what Compus was doing, but, in other respects, I do hope we can get back into NO PLANE proofs sometime soon.

sheesh

 

[TJM]

Hey, don't blame us; Those two were a side show attraction long before anyone posted their pictures here.

ETA: The no-plane proof has been debunked, mostly by the thousands of eyewitness who saw planes crash into the towers with their own eyes, the millions who witnessed it on TV, the fact that there is no evidence for your imaginary conspiracy centered around imaginary technology and imaginary weapons systems. You know, that sort of thing.