All Communists are dead-beats

TubbaBlubba said:
This just in - Free health care is communist.

Could never be democratic socialist or anything.
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Even the right wing in the rest of the developed world are for universal health care.

Labeling it as 'communist' is an American thing.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Nzimande

"Dr Bonginkosi Emmanuel "Blade" Nzimande (born April 14, 1958) is a South African politician and current Minister for Higher Education and Training.[1] He has been the General Secretary of the South African Communist Party since 1998.[2][3] He has a doctorate degree in philosophy specialising in sociology." - wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Nqakula

"Charles Nqakula (born September 13, 1942) is a South African politician who has been Minister of Defence since September 2008. He was Minister of Safety and Security from May 2002 to September 2008. Tipped as a contender for the future presidency of South Africa, he is concurrently national chairperson of the South African Communist Party (SACP). Nqakula is married to the Minister of Correctional services, Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula." wikipedia (my emphasis)

Yeah... definitely deadbeats.

It might help to look at, you know, actual Communists in leadership positions in an actual Communist party.
 
Thunder, where does this question come from? Judging from your avatar you have some affinity to the Czech Republic. Are you Czech? Did you live there for some time?

Is your opinion of Communists those that were in the Party back in the day? Which was pretty much everyone. Or those now mourning its downfall today?
 
bozothedeathmachine said:
Thunder, where does this question come from? Judging from your avatar you have some affinity to the Czech Republic. Are you Czech? Did you live there for some time?

Is your opinion of Communists those that were in the Party back in the day? Which was pretty much everyone. Or those now mourning its downfall today?
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Ah, meaningful questions. Not much chance of a meaningful response.
 
Fnord said:
Kamusta ka?

I wouldn't use the word "Deadbeat" when the phrase "Persons possessing an overly-developed and misplaced sense of entitlement to the fruits of other people's labors" should suffice.

But that's just me.
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Indeed there are persons who possess an overly and misplaced sense of entitlement to the fruits of other people's labors. They not only feel entitled, they actually take the fruits of other people's labors. They are the wealthy plutocrats in capitalist societies.

I am not a Marxist, but I feel that it's unjust that someone can monopolize enormous amounts of wealth, thousands of times larger than that of an honest worker. A day is only 24 hours long, how hard can those rich persons work?
 
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yomero said:
I am not a Marxist, but I feel that it's unjust that someone can monopolize enormous amounts of wealth, thousands of times larger than that of an honest worker. A day is only 24 hours long, how hard can those rich persons work?
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Yeah but the quality of life for the average person has gone up and remains on the increase. It doesn't really matter for you and me if someone has 50 million dollars. We still live better than an aristocrat did 200 years ago and compared to the poor world we live like aristocrats.
 
“From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” is much more appealing to the person who expects to contribute little to society, and to take much; than it is to the one who expects to contribute much, and take little.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
“From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” is much more appealing to the person who expects to contribute little to society, and to take much; than it is to the one who expects to contribute much, and take little.
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Not to me. I find it to be a wonderful sentiment and I'm genuinely aghast that people disagree with this ideal. I can understand thinking that Communism is a load of old nonsense, after all, I think it is. Idealistic rubbish dreamed up by people with little to no grasp of human psychology, but to dismiss that phrase to me seems....shocking.

That being said, Parky, you do know that you understand nothing about Communism right?
 
Questions? Yeah, I got one: Parky, next time you feel the urge to start a thread, why don't you nip outside for a bit? Have a walk, maybe talk to a few people, run your thread idea past them and see what the response is. If it's "Um... ok? And?" then don't post it.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
“From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” is much more appealing to the person who expects to contribute little to society, and to take much; than it is to the one who expects to contribute much, and take little.
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It would be nice if the kids with Down's Syndrome or Autism even actually understood that sentiment.
 
yomero said:
I am not a Marxist, but I feel that it's unjust that someone can monopolize enormous amounts of wealth, thousands of times larger than that of an honest worker. A day is only 24 hours long, how hard can those rich persons work?
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It's that they give thousands of people jobs and produce products or services millions want to buy.

Let's take Microsoft. Bill Gates is incredibly rich. But if it weren't for Microsoft, "computers" would still be the mainframe in the university's or bank's basement, and the "internet" some weird thing for armed forces research people. The world is far better for everybody because of that -- not just for him. It's not a zero sum game.

In any case, the idea that in a communist society there will be no exploitation is sheer nonsense. Only, instead of capitalist plutocrats who, after all, employ people and produce innovation and products, those who exploit in the communist world are the heads of the secret police, the dictators' friends, and other folks who produce nothing -- certainly no goods, employment, or services to anybody else.
 
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