Mel Gibson 's racist rant

[iknownothing]

Oksana is extremely calm and appears to be provoking him

Kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't. If she stays calm -- that must mean she planned it all and is provoking him. Yell back -- I'm sure she would also be provoking him.

Note: I am not saying I think she's great. Just that her calmness does not make me think she's manipulating things, or that he is blameless for his own behavior.

 

[iknownothing]

Since Mel Gibson was panting and out of breath on the phone. I suspect he was manic and the phone conversation was contrived and the girlfriend is a the real monster in this story. She is taking advantage of him. She is no loving partner. And, oddly enough, perhaps Mel's rage is justified.

What is the public opinion?
Is it for or against Mel?
If it is against Mel, it says alot for the stupidity of public opinon and our rush to judgement.

LOL, no rush to judgment in how you formed your opinion, huh? You simply deduced the most logical explanation: this prominent celebrity who no one (including his side) has implied or publicly suspected of being bipolar, is probably bipolar. So, the girlfriend must have manipulated things, and she's a monster. And the poor guy is not to blame at all for his own actions. Of course!

It couldn't be that he's just a jerk.

And if people hold him responsible for his own behavior, that "says alot for the stupidity of public opinion."

By the way, was the girlfriend also responsible for his anti-Semitic rant during his DUI a few years ago?

 

[Roadtoad]

Gotta go along with Roma on this one, as well as Mycroft. (Glad to see you here, Dude.)

I'm reminded of a friend of my sister's, Sabrina. Beautiful woman, smart as hell, and tough as they come. She married a guy who came home one night, smashed, and decided he didn't like what Sabrina made for dinner. He smacked her around for it, then went into their bedroom and passed out on the bed.

Sabrina tied him up in the bedsheets, took a baseball bat, and proceeded to administer a very serious attitude adjustment. She then packed her bags, and left him. I don't even think he contested the divorce.

I like women like that.

I really think if anyone deserved to lose some teeth, it was Mel.

 

[MattusMaximus]

As for Oksana, well it is clearly her fault that she got her teeth broken, she should have dropped the new born baby and protected her face with her hands. Or maybe we could blame the new born baby for getting in the way. Whatever it is we know that it is certainly not Mel's fault.

Yup, the ol' "blame the victim" card, though I would have said that it's Oksana's fault for hitting Mel's fist with her face. The crazy chick assaulted Mel's fist with her face - what kind of a lunatic does that?!!

Seriously, calling Mel Gibson a douchebag is an insult... to douchebags. He needs help of the professional psychiatric variety.

 

[Roadtoad]

Seriously, calling Mel Gibson a douchebag is an insult... to douchebags. He needs help of the professional psychiatric variety.

No, Mel needs a winch bar to the chops, along with a visit from a few dudes with CDLs. I wouldn't mind nailing his sorry ass with my steel toed boots.

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

I'm reminded of a friend of my sister's, Sabrina. Beautiful woman, smart as hell, and tough as they come. She married a guy who came home one night, smashed, and decided he didn't like what Sabrina made for dinner. He smacked her around for it, then went into their bedroom and passed out on the bed.

Sabrina tied him up in the bedsheets, took a baseball bat, and proceeded to administer a very serious attitude adjustment. She then packed her bags, and left him. I don't even think he contested the divorce.

I like women like that.

Have you talked to anyone about these sociopathic tendencies?

He smacked her about, so she tied him up and beat him with a bat, and we're supposed to cheer or something?

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

No, Mel needs a winch bar to the chops, along with a visit from a few dudes with CDLs. I wouldn't mind nailing his sorry ass with my steel toed boots.

Seriously, get help, your posts are terrifying.

 

[Roadtoad]

Have you talked to anyone about these sociopathic tendencies?

He smacked her about, so she tied him up and beat him with a bat, and we're supposed to cheer or something?

I know women who have done worse. Including one who nearly beheaded the guy who killed her child. He damned well deserved it.

Seriously, get help, your posts are terrifying.

Sorry. I calls 'em as I sees 'em. I'd have never dreamed of hitting my wife: First, I love her, and second, her dad would have knocked my teeth out.

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

I know women who have done worse. Including one who nearly beheaded the guy who killed her child. He damned well deserved it.



Sorry. I calls 'em as I sees 'em. I'd have never dreamed of hitting my wife: First, I love her, and second, her dad would have knocked my teeth out.

Look, either you're an internet tough guy (best case scenario), or you're advocating vicious (possibly fatal) vigilante style justice. Neither is very good.

We may all harbor dark fantasies about Charles Bronso-esque revenge sprees, but when you start bragging about them and tossing high fives, reevaluate, bud. Reevaluate.

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

I know women who have done worse. Including one who nearly beheaded the guy who killed her child. He damned well deserved it.

Also, this is flat out murder.

It doesn't matter if he deserved it, we have these pesky things called laws.

 

[Roadtoad]

Look, either you're an internet tough guy (best case scenario), or you're advocating vicious (possibly fatal) vigilante style justice. Neither is very good.

We may all harbor dark fantasies about Charles Bronso-esque revenge sprees, but when you start bragging about them and tossing high fives, reevaluate, bud. Reevaluate.

I'm neither. I'm the guy who watched his biological father beat the **** out of his mother as a three year old. Frequently.

I'm sorry, but sometimes, the bad guys are just vicious enough that the only way to get through to them that their behavior is damned wrong is to be every bit as vicious. It might not make them lovable, or even likable, (my biological father backstabbed me on several occasions, and it cost me seriously), but it might force them to re-evaluate the use of violence against those who can't fight back. And this is especially true when law enforcement and the courts won't take action.

Just so you know: My oldest son just got a serious reduction in my former daughter-in-laws custodial rights. Her boyfriend was beating my grandkids, and she was allowing it. A grown man in his 30's knocking the hell out of a three year old. Oh, yeah, I'd like to unleash a little vigilante justice on his sorry ass, but I don't have to. The courts took action. (Finally.)

 

[plumjam]

Sabrina tied him up in the bedsheets, took a baseball bat, and proceeded to administer a very serious attitude adjustment.

What was her nickname after that? Babe Ruthless?

 

[Roadtoad]

What was her nickname after that? Babe Ruthless?

Boo.

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

I'm neither. I'm the guy who watched his biological father beat the **** out of his mother as a three year old. Frequently.

I'm sorry, but sometimes, the bad guys are just vicious enough that the only way to get through to them that their behavior is damned wrong is to be every bit as vicious. It might not make them lovable, or even likable, (my biological father backstabbed me on several occasions, and it cost me seriously), but it might force them to re-evaluate the use of violence against those who can't fight back. And this is especially true when law enforcement and the courts won't take action.

Just so you know: My oldest son just got a serious reduction in my former daughter-in-laws custodial rights. Her boyfriend was beating my grandkids, and she was allowing it. A grown man in his 30's knocking the hell out of a three year old. Oh, yeah, I'd like to unleash a little vigilante justice on his sorry ass, but I don't have to. The courts took action. (Finally.)

The reasons for you feeling as you do are understandable, they just happen to also be reprehensible.

Vigilante justice bypasses the sorry joke that is the criminal justice system, great stuff. Except when it goes wrong.

Like when you beat the wrong guy to death, or when you put your daughter's bf in a wheelchair for 'raping' her, only to find out later that she lied because she was scared of your reaction to her having sex.

Add to that the fact that vigilante justice is only good when you're the one doing it, because you're 'morally righteous', unlike that guy over there! He beat a guy for doing WHAT? Outrageous!


Society can understand vigilantism, it can even turn a blind eye to it, but it must never laud it.

 

[quarky]

Christ, we are a sorry lot.

I'm fresh out of any 'love-bunny' re joiners.

I'm done killing; that's all i know.

 

[qayak]

Gotta go along with Roma on this one, as well as Mycroft. (Glad to see you here, Dude.)

I'm reminded of a friend of my sister's, Sabrina. Beautiful woman, smart as hell, and tough as they come. She married a guy who came home one night, smashed, and decided he didn't like what Sabrina made for dinner. He smacked her around for it, then went into their bedroom and passed out on the bed.

Sabrina tied him up in the bedsheets, took a baseball bat, and proceeded to administer a very serious attitude adjustment. She then packed her bags, and left him. I don't even think he contested the divorce.

I like women like that.

I really think if anyone deserved to lose some teeth, it was Mel.

Me too! I think Tiger Woods' wife got it right. He put her at risk for some life altering disease and her response was to **** him up with a golf club, take him for 3/4 of a billion dollars and, hopefully, divorce his sorry ass. Now that is a role model for young women!

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[qayak]

Society can understand vigilantism, it can even turn a blind eye to it, but it must never laud it.

What Sabrina did wasn't vigilantism, it was self defence. She had to make sure that useless POS couldn't come after her, or at least that he wouldn't want to.

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

Yes, it's hilarious until it's someone you like getting assaulted by someone you don't, then it's bad.

That's the thing with beating people based on personal morality, other people's morals will differ from yours.

It's why we have laws. No-one gets quite what they want, but (in theory) you're protected from people who think a blunt instrument is an argument winner.

I'm not even going to get in to how people hoot and cheer jilted wives gluing a penis or attacking with a knife, but if a guy goes after his cheating wife he should be locked up.

 

[EeneyMinnieMoe]

Just so you know: My oldest son just got a serious reduction in my former daughter-in-laws custodial rights. Her boyfriend was beating my grandkids, and she was allowing it. A grown man in his 30's knocking the hell out of a three year old. Oh, yeah, I'd like to unleash a little vigilante justice on his sorry ass, but I don't have to. The courts took action. (Finally.)

That's horrible but, in your former daughter in law's defense, it is probably blaming the wrong person to say that she "allowed it". Her boyfriend was the one abusing them and probably abusing her as well (or WOULD have abused her, had she tried to stop it.) She just had no choice. It probably hurt her immensely to see what he was doing to her children but she was powerless.

Plus, there's the whole psychology of abuse that the victim experiences in a situation like that that makes her go along with it. Identifying with the abuser and being compelled to side with him, defend him and protect him and so on. So it isn't just about physical threats and violence and fear, it's about a kind of psychological brainwashing.

 

[qayak]

Yes, it's hilarious until it's someone you like getting assaulted by someone you don't, then it's bad.

That's the thing with beating people based on personal morality, other people's morals will differ from yours.

It's why we have laws. No-one gets quite what they want, but (in theory) you're protected from people who think a blunt instrument is an argument winner.

I'm not even going to get in to how people hoot and cheer jilted wives gluing a penis or attacking with a knife, but if a guy goes after his cheating wife he should be locked up.

Ideally, I would agree with you. However, laws are written for reasonable people and some people just aren't reasonable. If they were, they wouldn't be beating their spouse.

Laws often don't protect anyone. It's not like you can hold one up as a sheied when your boyfriend, who outweighs you by 80 pounds, decides to lay a beating on you for some perceive transgression.