Lindsay Lohan: Wanted Fugitive

Jekyll's Guest said:
My niece and nephew put on Herbie fully loaded for my toddler son at the weekend, and I got stuck making sure he didn't wander off for the entire movie.

I can't remember every part, probably because of the damage caused by thrusting the coat hanger repeatedly in to my brain, but if she wasn't arrested for crimes against humanity for that movie, what's a little drinking and lying between friends(/judges)?
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I'm not sure what preconceptions you harbored about the depth and artistic merit of the movie before you sat down to watch the fifth offering of a nearly four decade old Disney property, but they seem to have been aimed a bit high.

What did you expect?

By sheer coincidence I happened to have had that movie on the tube a few months ago (probably as a refuge from an infuriating news cycle), and in all honestly I found myself a bit surprised at how well they had managed to capture the spirit of the first one without descending into completely regurgitated pap.

For Disney, that is.

Wasn't great. Wasn't terrible. Wasn't a surprise. Okay for kids. Grown ups? Not so much.

That is what they set out to do. It grossed $144M on a $50M budget. I guess their aim wasn't too far off.
 
maybe she can do like Roman Polanski and find work in Europe and just not return to the USA? She didn't rape anybody so if she decides to come back to the USA someday its my guess she'll either get probation or a short stay in jail.
 
Dragonrock said:
Are there any child stars who didn't lose it after they grew up?
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Of course there are plenty. You just don't hear about them because...well, they didn't lose it and are living quiet, normal lives. The kid from Willa Wonka is veterinarian, for example.

There are also folks like Ronnie Howard, who are notable for their success.
 
pgwenthold said:
Of course there are plenty. You just don't hear about them because...well, they didn't lose it and are living quiet, normal lives. The kid from Willa Wonka is veterinarian, for example.

There are also folks like Ronnie Howard, who are notable for their success.
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And Ken Osmond, who played Eddie Haskell, later found mega-stardom in the film industry as John Holmes.
 
The Central Scrutinizer said:
And Ken Osmond, who played Eddie Haskell, later found mega-stardom in the film industry as John Holmes.
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I assume you meant that as a joke. (I'd never heard of that particular urban legend before.)

Wikipedia does give a different story (which is almost as interesting...) Ken Osmond eventually became a police officer with the LAPD, but retired after getting shot in the line of duty. Since then, he's made occasional acting appearances. (Too bad he wasn't still working for the LAPD... could you imagine how the tabloids would go nuts if it had been him who was involved in Lohan's arrest?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Osmond
 
quadraginta said:
I'm not sure what preconceptions you harbored about the depth and artistic merit of the movie before you sat down to watch the fifth offering of a nearly four decade old Disney property, but they seem to have been aimed a bit high.

What did you expect?

By sheer coincidence I happened to have had that movie on the tube a few months ago (probably as a refuge from an infuriating news cycle), and in all honestly I found myself a bit surprised at how well they had managed to capture the spirit of the first one without descending into completely regurgitated pap.

For Disney, that is.

Wasn't great. Wasn't terrible. Wasn't a surprise. Okay for kids. Grown ups? Not so much.

That is what they set out to do. It grossed $144M on a $50M budget. I guess their aim wasn't too far off.
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It took a stupid, silly 60's kids movie. Drained every drop of fun, energy and creativity out of it, then added in the car being creepy with cgi.

I expected it to be terrible, just not "my soul has shrank ever so slightly by watching this."

My wife commented on how she walked by and I looked "hollow eyed and vacant", and since I don't usually look like that till several hours later in the evening, I can only conclude it was movie related.

I'm sure it made a great profit, utter insulting pap usually does.

If you somehow enjoyed it, more power to you man. Matt Dillon did an OK job I guess, and my son enjoyed the stock cars.
 
pgwenthold said:
Of course there are plenty. You just don't hear about them because...well, they didn't lose it and are living quiet, normal lives. The kid from Willa Wonka is veterinarian, for example.
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Well, to be fair, a lot of the one-off child stars (like the kid from Willy Wonka, whose name I believe is Peter Ostrum) did one film and were never part of the extended Hollywood/film/TV culture. Ostrum, in particular, spent five months in Munich filming and then went back to God-knows-where, Red State.

Actually growing up in the culture probably makes it much harder to keep it together.

There are also folks like Ronnie Howard, who are notable for their success.
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Yeah. Howard is impressive. He was on TV and in films more or less from the time he was conceived, one of the most popular teen stars of his time, and still managed to hold it together. I'm also really impressed with Ms. Portman.
 
pgwenthold said:
Of course there are plenty. You just don't hear about them because...well, they didn't lose it and are living quiet, normal lives. The kid from Willa Wonka is veterinarian, for example.

There are also folks like Ronnie Howard, who are notable for their success.
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Thanks, that makes me feel better.
 
drkitten said:
Well, to be fair, a lot of the one-off child stars (like the kid from Willy Wonka, whose name I believe is Peter Ostrum) did one film and were never part of the extended Hollywood/film/TV culture. Ostrum, in particular, spent five months in Munich filming and then went back to God-knows-where, Red State.
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True but do you think for a second if Ostrum had turned out bad, people wouldn't have lumped him in with "child stars who lost it"?
 
pgwenthold said:
True but do you think for a second if Ostrum had turned out bad, people wouldn't have lumped him in with "child stars who lost it"?
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Probably, yes. And they might well be right to do so, depending upon how he had "turned out bad."

I think there's something inherently poisonous about the "child star" culture. Kids don't handle money and power well -- which of, course, is obvious to anyone who's ever worked with kids. Kids don't handle anything well, which is why they're supposed to have adults around.

The problem is that the amount of trouble people (not just kids) can get into is typically related to the amount of money and power they have. And child stars typically get a lot of both before they're equipped, emotionally and intellectually, to handle it.

I'm merely pointing out that Ostrum had less temptation than Lohan -- if nothing else, he only had the royalties from one film to blow, and he didn't have an agent negotiating him superstar-level checks for that film. (I'll bet that Lohan makes more in a week of filming than Ostrum made in total salary.)
 
I'd say the real problem is parents treating their children like livestock.

We have child labor laws, but they handily bypass modeling and tv/movie work.

Occasional work is one thing, but full time child stars are generally messed up by the experience. The environment is quite toxic.

Child star parents make living-vicariously-through-my-child's-sporting-achievements parents look tame by comparison.
 
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