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I don't get why Bill Smith writes all these messages... I really don't see the point in telling everyone in sight "we're almost there ! We've almost reached our goal ! Soon, we will be heard !". If truthers are so sure they will eventually win, why don't they just go on and then come back when they have actually reached their goal ?

Seriously, what's the point in bragging about almost achieving something ?
 
Nutbag and wingnut address a british Parliamentary group...well done.

TAM:)

You note they do not say which MP's attend. It was a meeting in an office in a side part of Parliament I believe and i know of no MP's who attended.

Nazeez is another lying piece of crap.
 
I don't get why Bill Smith writes all these messages... I really don't see the point in telling everyone in sight "we're almost there ! We've almost reached our goal ! Soon, we will be heard !". If truthers are so sure they will eventually win, why don't they just go on and then come back when they have actually reached their goal ?

Seriously, what's the point in bragging about almost achieving something ?

I think its part of the religious aspect of their thinking. It is like those fundamentalists waiting for the rapture which is coming any day now: "Have you made your peace with God? Accepted the Truth? If not, you will all burn in Hell so you better start praying and donating to our church..." Except with Bill it's 9/11 Truth and firing squads for all us evil debunkers.
 
Today's truther soap opera, Chicago edition. I won't be passing by - it's right downtown at 5:30 on Friday, day 2 of NCAA, so I'm sure it will be jam packed with confused onlookers looking for bars truth activists.
Brothers and sisters, There has been a LOT of recent debate and discussion amongst 9/11 Truth advocates and the Anti-War left here in Chicago lately. Several members of the M20 coalition (anti-war organizers) have been vehemently opposed to 9/11 Truth, throwing out the old arguments like 'fringe movement', 'conspiracy theorists', the 9/11 conspiracy project, 9/11 hokum, 'Bush didn't do it!!'...etc. There was a motion put forth to have a 9/11 Truth speaker at the rally tomorrow that ensued the lively talks, ignorant rants, snide comments, disrespectful demeanor, and condescending remarks. There was a vote, and we were denied a speaker.Of course, the maliciousness only came from a few, and there are many Anti-War activists that support the movement.I'm writing this not to create animosity amongst 'us and them', but more to rally our local 9/11 Truth activists to come out for todays rally and march. Let's show the anti-war movement that we stand together with them in our efforts to end these immoral, illegal, and unjust wars. As you know, there is strength in numbers, both in us as 9/11 Truth activists and a larger group to bring peace. Look for the Chicago 9/11 Truth group tomorrow with their yellow shirts and yellow banner. Let's march along side them in solidarity for 9/11 Truth as we march as We Are Change Chicago with our blue shirts and blue banner. I invite us to be peaceful and respectful as we move to combine forces.Cindy Sheehan said yesterday in an interview that the Anti-War movement should, in fact, be joining forces with 9/11 Truth, and that 9/11 Truth is now a bigger movement. Let's prove that she's right!!FEDERAL PLAZA3/18/105:30pm RALLY, Then MARCH SHORTLY AFTERWARDS.Peace and Love.Rich
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fleecing the sheeple

One more bit of news worth mentioning...

Our New Movie
Debunking the Debunkers blog is proud to announce that John-Michael and Scootle are making a movie. The movie will feature Jim Hoffman of 911research.wtc7.net and Gregg Roberts of ae911truth.org. However funds are needed to complete this project. So this is a request for monatary assistance. I have set up this donation button and made it so that all funds will go towards the making of this movie. If you make a donation will we consider thanking you and/or putting your website in the ending credits. Email: jmtalboo@gmail.com Thank you for your help. FaithRMichaels
 
I invite us to be peaceful and respectful as we move to combine forces.Cindy Sheehan said yesterday in an interview that the Anti-War movement should, in fact, be joining forces with 9/11 Truth,

Their only problem with this is they (Anti-war) don't want them. (you can add gay rights, animal rights and a host of others they try to latch on to).

9/11 Truth is now a bigger movement.

Where's those laughing dogs when you need them? How can this room be empty when I hear so many voices?
 
NWO return policy?

I ordered 4 death ray emitters from NWO commissary....and instead, I got one of these:

Wrong package

It's starting to attract attention, does anyone know which form I file to schedule a return?

Thanks,
 
Isn't it funny how every truther video seems to require financial assistance to complete, yet not a single debunker project of similar nature ever seems to even suggest they want or need money for it.

Funny that.

TAM:)

Well, sure. We've got the whole NWO bankrolling us.
 
Bump with some huge news!

If you're not following it already, you should be reading the thread, "How I debated a 9/11 Truther and survived"
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170346

Dave Thomas from the New Mexico Tech has posted the video showing the result of the thermite test on a steel beam that Jesse Ventura cut from his 9/11 episode of "Conspiracy Theory".

Let's just say the truthers won't like it. :D
 
Wierdest 9/11 video ever.

Just browsing and found this little gem. Spent the whole time watching it doing "Poe's Law" analysis. What's with the cloaked guy and cyborg chick with huge boobs?

 
Just browsing and found this little gem. Spent the whole time watching it doing "Poe's Law" analysis. What's with the cloaked guy and cyborg chick with huge boobs?


Consider the target market. What demographic would look at a cyborg chick with huge boobs regardless of what the audio was saying?
 
Consider the target market. What demographic would look at a cyborg chick with huge boobs regardless of what the audio was saying?

What demographic WOULDN'T look at a cyborg chick with huge boobs regardless of what the audio was saying?
 
Good news! Well, -ish (don't get too excited).

If you've followed the put options arguments and threads, then you'll probably remember that the SEC produced a memo to the Commission detailing the results of their investigations, and why they didn't think the trades were suspicious. That memo has been classified and kept away from FOIA requesters for some time, though, so we couldn't read it for ourselves. I tried to get it in 2007, for instance, but was turned down.

Anyway, in November 2007 I filed an appeal. And I went to town a little, cited recent case law and everything! But then heard nothing, so assumed it had disappeared into the FOIA black hole.

Two years and five months later, though, an envelope turned up here with the full 20-page memo. Okay, not quite full, there are some redacted bits, but still, it's useful to have more information. No smoking guns, but interesting extra details on what they looked at, the companies, the trades, actual figures, and so on. I'll be scanning it and putting the document online later today, for anyone who cares (I'll post the link here).

Main reason for posting now, though - I'm curious whether this is a general release that's gone out to a lot of people, or whether my appeal might actually have had something to do with the release, and I've got it first. So - if you've seen anything new on the put options posted anywhere recently, or something pops up in the next week or so, please post here and let me know. Thanks!
 
Good news! Well, -ish (don't get too excited).

If you've followed the put options arguments and threads, then you'll probably remember that the SEC produced a memo to the Commission detailing the results of their investigations, and why they didn't think the trades were suspicious. That memo has been classified and kept away from FOIA requesters for some time, though, so we couldn't read it for ourselves. I tried to get it in 2007, for instance, but was turned down.

Anyway, in November 2007 I filed an appeal. And I went to town a little, cited recent case law and everything! But then heard nothing, so assumed it had disappeared into the FOIA black hole.

Two years and five months later, though, an envelope turned up here with the full 20-page memo. Okay, not quite full, there are some redacted bits, but still, it's useful to have more information. No smoking guns, but interesting extra details on what they looked at, the companies, the trades, actual figures, and so on. I'll be scanning it and putting the document online later today, for anyone who cares (I'll post the link here).

Main reason for posting now, though - I'm curious whether this is a general release that's gone out to a lot of people, or whether my appeal might actually have had something to do with the release, and I've got it first. So - if you've seen anything new on the put options posted anywhere recently, or something pops up in the next week or so, please post here and let me know. Thanks!

Awesome, Mike! That's great news. I'll keep an eye out. Post the link as soon as you get it up on your site; I'll definitely read it.
 
That's great, Mike! I, too, look forward to reading it. (And I haven't seen anything elsewhere about it being a general release, and nothing to that effect comes up on a google search, but I'll keep watching, too).
 
Thanks y'all! And here it is, the SEC memo to the 9/11 Commission on their investigations into the pre-9/11 put options trades.

At a quick glance I don't see anything too exciting, it's mostly just a more detailed explanation of why they didn't find anything suspicious. But source documents are always good to get, and if you're interested in the put options arguments then it's worth at least scanning this to see that the SEC have said.

ETA: d'oh! How did I miss that wrong date on the cover page?! Oh well, I'll replace it now.
 
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