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So Kit, when will you put in a call to this Musky?
Continuation - The PG Film - Bob Heironimus and Patty
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kitakaze
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Look at that...kitakaze NEEDS to 'make a deal' to post his analysis.
Well........I don't!
Showing the errors in your elbow foo foo is easy. Half of it has already been done for me. It would take five minutes in Paint to dress it up in scribbles and throw a bunch of emoticons around it to make it comprehensible to you. I offered to do it first. All you had to do was type Y E S. The hard part is trying to get a Bigfoot fanatic to behave in a normal manner. Tell me this, Sweaty, if you won't address a person's simple and relevant question pertaining to Bob Heironimus, why should anybody waste the time on addressing your questions? Why talk with someone who refuses to have a normal conversation with you where the points and questions from both parties are addressed?
Do you think there is a single person reading this thread, skeptic or proponent, that isn't thinking your evasion is obvious? When you said that you would never refuse to answer questions about Bigfoot evidence, you were flatly lying. You refuse to discuss simple questions about Bob Heironimus' connection to Patterson and Gimlin.
You, Sweaty, are an intellectual coward and everyone knows it. Every time you dodge simple questions, it only emphasizes your cowardice to readers. I invite every single person who doesn't think Sweaty is a cowardly fanatic to post and say so. It won't happen.
My guess is most of us have him on ignore. Life seems to be much more pleasant that way.
Bill Munns
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WP:
"Where does Bob Heironimus' confession get placed in your evidence ratings? Where does Gimlin's "it was a Bigfoot" get placed in your evidence ratings?
If Gimlin were to confess tomorrow, with no physical evidence to prove the hoax (basically the same as BH), where would his confession get placed in your evidence ratings? IOW, do you reject BG's confession because (according to your research of physical evidence) the film does not show a guy in a costume?
Again, since a Gimlin confession would be "in his own words", you would place his confession in the third category (less reliable)? "
Any testimony by any person is in the third category, be it Bob G. Bob H. or others.
"You are being paid for your analysis. You've even mentioned stopping or slowing your analysis because cash flowing to you stopped or slowed. Is this the category of evidence that your own work should be placed? Less reliable because money is involved?
Have you been satisfied with the amount of money Doug Hajicek and others have paid you for your various works in showing that Patty is not a person in a costume? Do you think they should have been paying you more? "
You are wrong. I am not being paid for my analysis!
I have only been paid for physical items fabricated for illustration or demonstration, or for computer graphics illustrating ideas, which is what I do professionally and have been doing for the last 40 years.
Scientific evidence in the first category (most reliable) does entail cost or expense. So money is involved in even the most reliable evidence, and thus money is not a factor in whether evidence is more or less reliable. That is why most researchers and scientists apply for grants and other funding, because their scientific research does in fact cost money and thus they must get sponsorship to do their research. My research efforts are the same. Some things, like buying or renting film cameras, buying film stock, getting it processed, travel expenses to places where film copies are and can be scanned, purchasing specialized software for computer analysis, etc. all costs money, and a researcher aspiring to do these things needs some funding source.
Your failure to comprehend this is discouraging, to say the least.
"You must understand that this is only true in a certain limited sense. Bob Gimlin will not allow himself to be investigated. He refuses interviews. Given the circumstances, this is generally a clear indication that something is wrong. Deeply wrong. A guy claims to film an unusual creature, generally regarded as mythical, and he won't freely talk about it. That is a red flag.
Do you understand the serious problem created by Bob Gimlin and his refusal to cooperate? Does it frustrate you in your search for answers about the PGF, or are you fine with that?
Bob Gimlin has been interviewed multiple times over the last 42 years, and he is being investigated with unrelenting determination by skeptical people. You and others in this forum quote from his interviews repeatedly. You are simply unhappy because the investigation of him can't be held on your terms.
I have explained enough times over the past two years why the focus of my research is on the film data itself, and other physical materials and properties, and why such is independent of personal testimony, and you still don't get it, so it appears further dialogue with you is hopeless.
Each time I venture into this forum, with some hope that i will find iltelligent dialogues with logical people, I never cease to be disappointed by the failures of people to comprehend what they read or what has been described.
You and I will obviously never see 'eye to eye' on this debate, or even establish a foundation for any meaningful dialogue. Lacking that foundation, the remarks and replies just go round and round in circles. Seems a waste of time, so why bother.
Signing out.
Bill,
"Where does Bob Heironimus' confession get placed in your evidence ratings? Where does Gimlin's "it was a Bigfoot" get placed in your evidence ratings?
If Gimlin were to confess tomorrow, with no physical evidence to prove the hoax (basically the same as BH), where would his confession get placed in your evidence ratings? IOW, do you reject BG's confession because (according to your research of physical evidence) the film does not show a guy in a costume?
Again, since a Gimlin confession would be "in his own words", you would place his confession in the third category (less reliable)? "
Any testimony by any person is in the third category, be it Bob G. Bob H. or others.
"You are being paid for your analysis. You've even mentioned stopping or slowing your analysis because cash flowing to you stopped or slowed. Is this the category of evidence that your own work should be placed? Less reliable because money is involved?
Have you been satisfied with the amount of money Doug Hajicek and others have paid you for your various works in showing that Patty is not a person in a costume? Do you think they should have been paying you more? "
You are wrong. I am not being paid for my analysis!
I have only been paid for physical items fabricated for illustration or demonstration, or for computer graphics illustrating ideas, which is what I do professionally and have been doing for the last 40 years.
Scientific evidence in the first category (most reliable) does entail cost or expense. So money is involved in even the most reliable evidence, and thus money is not a factor in whether evidence is more or less reliable. That is why most researchers and scientists apply for grants and other funding, because their scientific research does in fact cost money and thus they must get sponsorship to do their research. My research efforts are the same. Some things, like buying or renting film cameras, buying film stock, getting it processed, travel expenses to places where film copies are and can be scanned, purchasing specialized software for computer analysis, etc. all costs money, and a researcher aspiring to do these things needs some funding source.
Your failure to comprehend this is discouraging, to say the least.
"You must understand that this is only true in a certain limited sense. Bob Gimlin will not allow himself to be investigated. He refuses interviews. Given the circumstances, this is generally a clear indication that something is wrong. Deeply wrong. A guy claims to film an unusual creature, generally regarded as mythical, and he won't freely talk about it. That is a red flag.
Do you understand the serious problem created by Bob Gimlin and his refusal to cooperate? Does it frustrate you in your search for answers about the PGF, or are you fine with that?
Bob Gimlin has been interviewed multiple times over the last 42 years, and he is being investigated with unrelenting determination by skeptical people. You and others in this forum quote from his interviews repeatedly. You are simply unhappy because the investigation of him can't be held on your terms.
I have explained enough times over the past two years why the focus of my research is on the film data itself, and other physical materials and properties, and why such is independent of personal testimony, and you still don't get it, so it appears further dialogue with you is hopeless.
Each time I venture into this forum, with some hope that i will find iltelligent dialogues with logical people, I never cease to be disappointed by the failures of people to comprehend what they read or what has been described.
You and I will obviously never see 'eye to eye' on this debate, or even establish a foundation for any meaningful dialogue. Lacking that foundation, the remarks and replies just go round and round in circles. Seems a waste of time, so why bother.
Signing out.
Bill,
SweatyYeti
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Patty's extreme 'elbow-reach' TRUMPS all of your gobbledy-gook, posted above.
Sorry.
BY DA WAY....
...I see you still can't SHOW where, and to what extent, there are any errors in that upper-arm comparison....and, also, in the measurements of Patty's extreme elbow-reach.
Keep up the good work, kitz!
kitakaze
Resident DJ/NSA Supermole
Patty's extreme 'elbow-reach' TRUMPS all of your gobbledy-gook, posted above.
Sorry.
Sweaty, what is untrue in the following posts and why?...
Please let us know.
BY DA WAY....
I see you still can't SHOW where, and to what extent, there are any errors in that upper-arm comparison....and, also, in the measurements of Patty's extreme elbow-reach.
Keep up the good work, kitz!
As I have explained, I will gladly post what you are asking for if you agree to engage in honest discussion and address my issues that I have raised. It is a matter of honesty and simple fairness. Will you agree to answer my questions? If so, I will proceed to show where and to what extent the errors in your graphics are. I will even go first without waiting for your answers.
Two or three letters for you to type - Y E S or N O.
kitakaze
Resident DJ/NSA Supermole
Bit of news.
Tom Biscardi has contacted me and asked me to appear on the Bigfoot Live radio show this Wednesday from 7-8pm pst to discuss my PGF/Bigfoot investigations. I haven't agreed yet but said I would like to if I am available.
BTW, Tom's Vegas music show is called Rock n' Roll 2 Soul and will be at the Palace Station Casino starting tonight, March 8th, 2010 from 7 pm and will be showing every night until Saturday. It is billed as an EXPLOSION of entertainment. All ages, general admission. Tickets are $34.95.
Well, now I know where the Hummer and the 'Vette came from.
Tom Biscardi has contacted me and asked me to appear on the Bigfoot Live radio show this Wednesday from 7-8pm pst to discuss my PGF/Bigfoot investigations. I haven't agreed yet but said I would like to if I am available.
BTW, Tom's Vegas music show is called Rock n' Roll 2 Soul and will be at the Palace Station Casino starting tonight, March 8th, 2010 from 7 pm and will be showing every night until Saturday. It is billed as an EXPLOSION of entertainment. All ages, general admission. Tickets are $34.95.
Well, now I know where the Hummer and the 'Vette came from.
Vortigern99
Sorcerer Supreme
Sweaty, are you incapable of grasping that the head moves up and down on a vertical axis? That the elbow joint can remain fixed while the head moves up or down? That the eyeline is entrenched in the mass of the head? That a face-mask will distort where the apparent eyeline is? That a suit would distort or even obscure entirely where the apparent limb joints are? That differences in camera and developing lenses, horizon line, degree of foreshortening, and degree of digital "squashing" or lengthening combine to render valueless all comparisons that fail to take these differences into account?
Patty's extreme 'elbow-reach' TRUMPS all of your gobbledy-gook, posted above.
Sorry.
BY DA WAY....
I see you still can't SHOW where, and to what extent, there are any errors in that upper-arm comparison....and, also, in the measurements of Patty's extreme elbow-reach.
Keep up the good work, kitz!
kitakaze
Resident DJ/NSA Supermole
Hi, Bill. I hope I didn't catch you cranky. I think it is absolutely fine for you to seek funding for your research into the PGF. I know I would love to have the costs of my investigation covered, whether it is from a production company or publishing house. I doubt that would happen. Ideally, what I would want is about two weeks in Yakima - travel between Yakima and Victoria (ferry, car rental, bus, plane, whatever), accommodation at a hotel close to South 90th and Ahtanum (one with a pool and the dirty channels, please), medical bills from getting clobbered on the head by Judy Gimlin, food (do they have Korean barbeque in Yakima?), that sort of thing. I already have the recording equipment. I would need a camera man. GT offered to do it. We can sort out the pay with him. Don't be cheap, please. Oh yeah, and somebody would need to pick up the tab when we go for bowling and beers with Bob (Heironimus, I mean. Gimlin is just going to be a stick in the mud).
Hey, journalism ain't cheap. OMFG, I just had the best idea. Wouldn't it be the most fall-down, slap-your-forehead-with-your-hand piece of irony if I set up this whole thing with Tom Biscardi doing the funding? Wouldn't you just fall right back out of your seat and roll around the floor cursing? The guy who put the Georgia Boyz hoax together working with an internet Bigfoot skeptic on an investigation exposing the PGF hoax... Sweet Fancy Moses, what a riot that would be.
But, no, seriously, yeah, I'm probably going to have to pay for the whole thing myself, which is not going to be cheap, so I would certainly put 110% of my effort into making sure that I had something thorough and something that people would be glued to, and that something I would be taking for promotion and distribution to people who I could negotiate with and not get screwed. I'll say it straight - I have no doubt Bob Heironimus was Patty and I want to see him get the recognition and the cash money dollar bills he deserves for being screwed. At the very least, he deserves whatever $1000 in 1967 would be now, but certainly much more based on how the film has been used over the last four decades.
Anyway, you go, you do your thing. If you can get camera rentals and tripods, software, whatever, paid for, you go for it. You won't see me accusing you of pumping the PGF for cash.
I wish you wouldn't do that. It's like exactly why Bigfooters hate Greg Long so much. You take your irritation at William Parcher, one guy, says and project it onto everyone at the JREF in this big sweeping generalization. What's with that? You're calling everyone here illiterate morons, essentially. You know, someone could turn right around and point out the irony of someone who writes "hope that i will find iltelligent dialogues". It's not going to be me, though. I won't be that guy. I type like a chicken is pecking the keyboard while I try to type with oven mitts on when I get wrapped up in something. I just cringe and try to do better next time.
Anyway, easy on the generalizing insults, please. I know you're smarter than that. There are lots of extremely bright people here. WP is one of them and knowing WP, I don't think it's inappropriate to discuss the money angle. FWIW, I really don't think monetary profit has any roll in your motivation for researching the PGF. I would say it has a lot more to do with respect and doing the renaissance man thing and the spirit of investigation. I can really identify with that last one there. Anyway, I know you're convinced the PGF is real. You've been convinced it's real for decades now. You've been on record saying it's real since at least 2001.
You're going into this trying to prove what you think is true. In that sense, you're no different than me. I am convinced now that the film is a hoax. I used to swear it was real and now I'm sure it's not. I have crazy motivation about the PGF. I want more than anything for that bull$#!% magnet to be put to rest and recognized for what it truly is - a wonderful piece of Americana and nothing to do with zoology at all.
Bill, we're connected in this PGF thing whether you like it or not. I would like for you to drop in anytime you want. If WP's or anyone else irks you with their commentary or questions, just click ignore or whatever. Don't just go off in a grumpy huff like an incensed 12 year old calling everybody stupid. Why not stick around,? You're reading it, anyway.
kitakaze
Resident DJ/NSA Supermole
Patty's extreme 'elbow-reach' TRUMPS all of your gobbledy-gook, posted above.
Sorry.
Patty's extreme 'elbow-reach' TRUMPS all of your gobbledy-gook, posted above.
Sorry.
Patty's extreme 'elbow-reach' TRUMPS all of your gobbledy-gook, posted above.
Sorry.
Aaaaaaahhh, god... Fork in my eyes. FORK IN MY EYES! You know you've reached a communication breakdown when the conversation devolves into throwing copypasta around the room. Vort, I'm not blaming you. Unfortunately, we have a person here in his 50's who's acting like he's in his teens. Now, you weren't around for this, but there was a time when we used to think Sweaty a little mak kid. I know it's hard to believe, but yeah, it's true.
How ridiculous is it when you have a grown man behaving this way? It's like he's incapable of understanding the most basic concept of discussion. Sweaty is simply mentally unequiped to deal with a real conversation with adults in which you don't simply talk at people and fire a barrage of giant coloured text and smiley faces at them, while completely ignoring and running away from they say to you.
I can just see Sweaty at home with his family...
Woman! My porkchop TRUMPS your broccoli! Son! my bowel movement TRUMPS your shower! Dog! My newspaper TRUMPS your bowel movement! Now then, I'm off to take A TRUMP!
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kitakaze
Resident DJ/NSA Supermole
I'm thinking it is about time to create a Kitakaze blog or website to serve as a central point on the internet for my research and investigation into the PGF and all things Bigfoot. I'm also thinking to start a thread here at the JREF to ask for advice. Maybe it is more appropriate for the Community section, but I would like to put it here in GS&P. I've done tons of graphic design work associated with music, but I can't pretend to be any kind of web design wizard.
I'd appreciate any feedback from people more experienced than I am with this kind of thing.
I'd appreciate any feedback from people more experienced than I am with this kind of thing.
RayG
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William Parcher
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Bill Munns. Earth to Bill Munns. We are talking about a giant hairy bipedal walking apeman monster that you are arguing lives in our woods. That is pretty much insane and absurd to think we have that going on and only Internet dorks like me have enough common sense to argue against it. Do you understand what you are arguing for? Forget the money for a moment. Think about this, Bill.
You aren't simply arguing that Patty doesn't look like a guy in a costume. You are essentially (and this is important) arguing that an unknown primate of great stature lives right here in our forests. A giant hominoid that nobody can kill and nobody can find dead. That is very crazy thinking, Bill. It's not unrecognized soaring intellect. It's upside-down wonky batpoop ideas. Do you understand what kooky thinking is about?
Bill Munns... let me tell you something. Bigfoot does not exist. It didn't exist in October 1967 either. Your rulers, pixel counts and special software doesn't change a thing. This creature is a folk tale. It isn't out there living in the wild and scratching out an existence while hiding from everything that could confirm it. Bigfoot is maybe a mind trap. A seductive trap that will ensnare folks like you and even others too.
How can you do this, Bill. How can you go ahead with the conviction that Bigfoot is out there? Are you detached from the natural world? Are you living in such urban seclusion that you have not yet been enlightened into what does not live in our forests yet?
Have you been cooped up inside a studio so long that you have a disconnect from the natural world of North America?
kitakaze
Resident DJ/NSA Supermole
kitakaze
Resident DJ/NSA Supermole
I don't think the average reasonably intelligent person, were they to spend more than one minute per year thinking about Bigfoot, would say the Bigfoot can not exist. I think most reasonably intelligent people with any knowledge of the natural world would say that Bigfoot does not exist because they don't adhere to the reality of all other animals large and small in North America. That would be that no matter how few of them there are or how remote their habitat is, they do get dead and studied by us. Most rational people don't believe in Bigfoot because hey, where the heck is it?
You don't have a living, eating, breeding, pooping great big animal walking around in New York, Arkansas, Nova Scotia, New Mexico, everywhere and not be dead and dissected somewhere. That's just insanity. That's what you believe and there is something very wrong with your grasp on reality. You have some kind of creduloid crack running through your veins. You think UFO's are being shot at in our orbit. You think there are ruins of civilization on Mars and that they are connected to civilizations here on Earth. You think Bigfoot walks from coast to coast. Do you smell burnt toast?
Now as for Heironimus still making his case, let's see if you can struggle with this. He's not continuing to make his case. As far as he's concerned, he came out with the truth and screw the whackos that don't believe him, there's better things to do than get caught up in their bizarro worlds. He has a beautiful '55 Chevy to work on, horses to tend to and see, a wonderful wife, Glenda, a 90 year old wonderful mother, Opal, who still drives around by herself, grandchildren, and bowling to do in the evenings. Still making his case my ass.
Hello, Sweaty. Hi there. Got the lights on in there? When Greg Long first came to Heironimus after all his invesigations in Yakima and elsewhere led him to Bob, Bob tried to cover for Patterson. He denied being in Roger's documentary and when asked about being in the suit he denied it. He got all screwed up and defensive when Long presented him with what he knew and tried to cover over his inconsistencies. He wasn't trying to make his case then, man, he was trying to hide his case. Nope. Not me. Don't know nuthin'.
You haven't a single clue what you're talking about. Fortean addiction's got you all messed up.
Vortigern99
Sorcerer Supreme
Kit, will you kindly stop beating around the bush, and deliver those bombshells you've been promising since last night?
SweatyYeti
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kitakaze wrote:
Yup!
CRAZY...ain't it?!
Yup!
CRAZY...ain't it?!SweatyYeti
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Still can't do anything about that upper-arm comparison...and Patty's 'elbow-reach' measurements, eh???
Do you think you ever will be able too, kitz?
I'm still adding to my 'elbow-reach' analysis....and, it's looking bleaker and bleaker for Heironimus, as the numbers continue to 'come in'.
Thanks for the family news on him, though. He's a fortunate man.
SweatyYeti
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kitakaze wrote:
Vort wrote:
Here we have the ESSENCE of the "REAL conversations" that kitakaze is claiming exist on this board....ANY and ALL evidence for Bigfoot's existence is deemed...
"valueless"
.... by the "critical thinkers" here, hosting these...
..."real conversations".
But wait....there's more......
William Parcher wrote:
kitakaze wrote:
..."real conversations"...
kitakaze wrote:
"real conversations"
Vort wrote:
Here we have the ESSENCE of the "REAL conversations" that kitakaze is claiming exist on this board....ANY and ALL evidence for Bigfoot's existence is deemed...
"valueless"
.... by the "critical thinkers" here, hosting these...
..."real conversations".
But wait....there's more...
...William Parcher wrote:
kitakaze wrote:
..."real conversations"...
kitakaze wrote:
"real conversations"
kitakaze
Resident DJ/NSA Supermole
Concept:
A/The Book:
Woods & Wildmen: A Look at the Wild World of Bigfootery
This is just as the title says. I will look all over at Bigfootery. The various research groups, the websites, and the people. Most of all the people. I'll touch on everyone and everything. BFRO, Moneymaker, conferences, round-ups, you name it. There'll be a picture of me with Biscardi and he's got the arm around my shoulders. The whole nine yards. I wouldn't be slamming Biscardi to the surprise of many. I'd show him for exactly what he is - the Barnum and Bailey of Bigfootery.
Much of the book will draw on research I've done at the JREF over the last four years and include chapters on things you'd expect, like Bigfoot being in native myths and traditions. One entire chapter at least would be called Nine Doors Apart and would focus on my discussions with Bob Heironimus and others. The book would have a definite pop culture tone to it from the jacket design to the illustrations and photos. Bigfoot would be celebrated in the book for what it is, a cool myth, social construct, and unique creation of North American culture.
The Blog/Website:
www.woods&wildmen.com
The website will tie into the book but will be a stand alone creation. Woods & Wildmen would be a place for critically minded people who follow Bigfootery and crypto culture on the Net. Here are some sections...
Cave Entrance
This would be an intro to the main page. A graphic is featured where the screen shows some spooky woods with shadows and big, dark humanoid figures seen moving amongst the trees. We move foreward through the trees and a cave is seen with red glowing eyes peering out at us. Either the Bigfoot comes out at us screaming and we jump to the main page or we zoom into the darkness of cave and jump.
The music I would do myself, of course, and would be either appropriately spooky with Bigfoot screams or would be a take on music of classic 70's Bigfoot movies like Legend of Boggy Creek...
Some how I want to feature The Cure's A Forest somewhere in there.
On the track!
This section is devoted to examining various Bigfooter organizations such as the BFRO, etc.
Hit it with your purse, Alice!
This section deals with Bigfooters or groups complaining about something keeping the Bigfoot research down. An example would be Loren Coleman's posting on Cryptomumble about children's cinema killing Bigfoot research.
Whaaa??
This section deals with some of the more bizarre things done or said by Bigfooters. Autmn Williams' groan-inducing bid for a Rasberry Award for worst acting would be an example. If you don't know what I'm talking about, pop a gravol and check this out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpraYQAhoNU
In the shadows.
This section would be for looking at cases or alleged witnesses that I think are interesting and worth investigation. The married couple whose names I can't remember off the top of my head would be an example of what you would find there.
The Stumpknockers.
This section is devoted to the more colourful people searching for Bigfoot. This is where you find profiles on thefirstbillyjack and trailriderresearch.
Caught on film!
This section is for the PGF and other films, videos, and photos purported to be of Bigfoot.
Monster movies.
This section is for Bigfoot movies past and present.
There would be a section featuring links to the JREF, Monster Talk, Matt Crowley's blog and other various skeptical sites.
The Internet radio show:
Woods & Wildmen Live
This would basically be a weekly radio show for bigfoot skeptics. It would be much like the excellent Monster Talk, but be focused on Bigfoot, yeti, orang pendek, etc. I have a lot of radio experience and used to have my own radio show in the 90's. I would need to find someone to co-host with me. I would try to find a person quick on their toes who shares my bizarre sense of humour and is comfortable being on air. Guests would include various skeptics as well as Bigfoot researchers.
Any suggestions or ideas for all of the above would be most welcome.
A/The Book:
Woods & Wildmen: A Look at the Wild World of Bigfootery
This is just as the title says. I will look all over at Bigfootery. The various research groups, the websites, and the people. Most of all the people. I'll touch on everyone and everything. BFRO, Moneymaker, conferences, round-ups, you name it. There'll be a picture of me with Biscardi and he's got the arm around my shoulders. The whole nine yards. I wouldn't be slamming Biscardi to the surprise of many. I'd show him for exactly what he is - the Barnum and Bailey of Bigfootery.
Much of the book will draw on research I've done at the JREF over the last four years and include chapters on things you'd expect, like Bigfoot being in native myths and traditions. One entire chapter at least would be called Nine Doors Apart and would focus on my discussions with Bob Heironimus and others. The book would have a definite pop culture tone to it from the jacket design to the illustrations and photos. Bigfoot would be celebrated in the book for what it is, a cool myth, social construct, and unique creation of North American culture.
The Blog/Website:
www.woods&wildmen.com
The website will tie into the book but will be a stand alone creation. Woods & Wildmen would be a place for critically minded people who follow Bigfootery and crypto culture on the Net. Here are some sections...
Cave Entrance
This would be an intro to the main page. A graphic is featured where the screen shows some spooky woods with shadows and big, dark humanoid figures seen moving amongst the trees. We move foreward through the trees and a cave is seen with red glowing eyes peering out at us. Either the Bigfoot comes out at us screaming and we jump to the main page or we zoom into the darkness of cave and jump.
The music I would do myself, of course, and would be either appropriately spooky with Bigfoot screams or would be a take on music of classic 70's Bigfoot movies like Legend of Boggy Creek...
Some how I want to feature The Cure's A Forest somewhere in there.
On the track!
This section is devoted to examining various Bigfooter organizations such as the BFRO, etc.
Hit it with your purse, Alice!
This section deals with Bigfooters or groups complaining about something keeping the Bigfoot research down. An example would be Loren Coleman's posting on Cryptomumble about children's cinema killing Bigfoot research.
Whaaa??
This section deals with some of the more bizarre things done or said by Bigfooters. Autmn Williams' groan-inducing bid for a Rasberry Award for worst acting would be an example. If you don't know what I'm talking about, pop a gravol and check this out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpraYQAhoNU
In the shadows.
This section would be for looking at cases or alleged witnesses that I think are interesting and worth investigation. The married couple whose names I can't remember off the top of my head would be an example of what you would find there.
The Stumpknockers.
This section is devoted to the more colourful people searching for Bigfoot. This is where you find profiles on thefirstbillyjack and trailriderresearch.
Caught on film!
This section is for the PGF and other films, videos, and photos purported to be of Bigfoot.
Monster movies.
This section is for Bigfoot movies past and present.
There would be a section featuring links to the JREF, Monster Talk, Matt Crowley's blog and other various skeptical sites.
The Internet radio show:
Woods & Wildmen Live
This would basically be a weekly radio show for bigfoot skeptics. It would be much like the excellent Monster Talk, but be focused on Bigfoot, yeti, orang pendek, etc. I have a lot of radio experience and used to have my own radio show in the 90's. I would need to find someone to co-host with me. I would try to find a person quick on their toes who shares my bizarre sense of humour and is comfortable being on air. Guests would include various skeptics as well as Bigfoot researchers.
Any suggestions or ideas for all of the above would be most welcome.
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