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The Marijuana Conspiracy

3-Reasonable local and state laws for use of intoxicating agents and cigarettes in public, including banns in certain public places. Reasonable child endangerment laws regarding furnishing alcohol, tobacco, or drugs to those under 18.

Thanks for answering this, Dandyone. Although I will quibble with the age limits you favor, I will at least agree with you on the general concept of limits. Maybe your state would have an age limit of 18. I would press for 25 in my state.

This answer shows me that regarding marijuana laws you are actually more reasonable than you at first appeared.

Some of the other stuff, though...? Maybe we should start a new thread. :boxedin:
 
Just what we all need, a psychic armchair mind reader. In essence you don't know a thing about me.

Wow, you actually couldn't come up with your own list, so you copy the one making fun of what you may choose, and then try to stick it to someone about calling what you may be doing?

Your posts are priceless, please never stop.
 
Thanks for answering this, Dandyone. Although I will quibble with the age limits you favor, I will at least agree with you on the general concept of limits. Maybe your state would have an age limit of 18. I would press for 25 in my state.

This answer shows me that regarding marijuana laws you are actually more reasonable than you at first appeared.

Some of the other stuff, though...? Maybe we should start a new thread. :boxedin:

Must note that his answers came only after other similar answers were posted.

Why is this?

Hey, i am just asking questions.
 
I know. And I think that it should be legalized.

Hell i have some in my room and i am thinking about calling the cops after this thread.

Well maybe i will just destroy it. Now how do cops do that....incineration right, now i don't want to cause a big fire so i can't burn it all at once, so if i just incinerate it a little at a time over the next few nights......

( a special thanks to Rollo from sanford and son for making that joke possible.)
 
Another individual who claims to love Private Enterprise but then would pass "usury laws" making it impossible for all practical purposes to borrow money for business purposes. Ya gotta love it.
And I love his belief that The X Files were a documentary.
I don't know what he was smoking, but it was some really strong s---.
 
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1-No, but I'd like my taxes to be legal apportioned taxes and have them put to better use. Single payer universal health care should be a priority, along with infrastructure repair and updates.
correct me if I am wrong but this would give rise to my questions regarding exactly what gov't agencies and programns you are in favour of funding via your taxes.

2-Don't want any SSN, but support it for those who need it.
ok, so you support at least one program.
3-Reasonable local and state laws for use of intoxicating agents and cigarettes in public, including banns in certain public places. Reasonable child endangerment laws regarding furnishing alcohol, tobacco, or drugs to those under 18.

18 will make it legal for senior high school. I would personally favour 21 but at the lowest, 19, and as I said I am not in favour of increasing the number of legal intoxicants.

4-I'd like to have a military that is for defensive purposes, like all other countries besides Israel and a few others. I do not think it is fair to have a military that spends more than all others on the planet combined and be forced to pay for it. We also pay for Israels huge military budget. End the empire please.

those ICBMs that China and Russia have are purely defensive?

5-It would be nice to have a government that doesn't lie to the ones who pay their salaries about UFOs advanced technology or anything else. End the shadow government.

begs the question of how you can be certain you have been lied to on this specific subject.

yep, see 5

7-Don't have an ex, don't advocate violence against anyone except in self defense.
indeed it would be legalizing vengance killing

8-I would like to see the Federal Reserve System ended, and replaced with a system that serves all the people, instead of a running a ponzi cash machine for foreign bankers and their families paid for by American working people. Debt free US Treasury notes, as Lincoln used during the Civil War to fund the federal government. The low interest, 2% charged on government loans for all primary housing and small bussinesses would make the income tax unnecessary. All money owed to Federal Reserve should be defaulted on immediately, all their assets should be forfieted back to the US treasury and all those involved in the scam should be forced to wear electronic listening devices around their necks for life. TRILLIONS for America, and future protection from the financial terrorists!!

long on wind, short on details.
If all money owed to the Fed were defaulted on what assets would be left?

13-Release ALL prisoners who have been incarcerated for petty drug crimes. By that I mean all Marijuana and anything less than 100 kilos of anything else. That is about a million+ prisoners at 50K a year. Lotta $$$$

220 pounds of weed is a petty crime, and for personal use? :jaw-dropp At 1/10 of a pound a day ( I am dizzy thinking about that) this is over a 6 year supply.

14-Use all the surplus funds that would be available after a couple years of my plan to retool the great American manufacturing juggarnaught and the hemp-chem-food industry, and away we go!!
!!

You still haven't answered the question; do you propose a world wide(or at least American) monoculture?
 
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Another individual who claims to love Private Enterprise but then would pass "usury laws" making it impossible for all practical purposes to borrow money for business purposes. Ya gotta love it.
And I love his belief that The X Files were a documentary.
I don't know what he was smoking, but it was some really strong s---.

I believe he also has small business and housing loans administered directly by the gov't. I asked his feelings on gov't health care but I would now assume that if he wants the gov't taking over the mortgage business then he would have no problem with it taking over health care. After all a case of cancer can easily bankrupt a person, more so than a high mortgage rate in some cases.

X-Files: well it could be worse. I have seen "The Matrix" described in similar fashion.
 
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My list was one of mockery and that Dandyone actually agreed with a number of them clearly shows he is as complicated as eggplant curry but with less salt.

I'm most pleased Jaydeehess that you (no longer) wish to shoot your ex-wife. You have grown but you should try to stop playing hangman with her in mind twenty or thirty times a day.
 
I believe he also has small business and housing loans administered directly by the gov't. I asked his feelings on gov't health care but I would now assume that if he wants the gov't taking over the mortgage business then he would have no problem with it taking over health care. After all a case of cancer can easily bankrupt a person, more so than a high mortgage rate in some cases.

Well, he's stated earlier that he doesn't trust the FDA or CDC so I'm not sure who he would have run health care.
 
But he trusts Russia Today......

You know that TV show that is this for Vladimir Putin:[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_188404ac643b2eecff.jpg[/qimg]

I don't "trust" RT anymore than CNN or FOX as I know they all have agendas. However it is nice to have a bigger variety of sources from different POVs. Russian cable and satelite networks offer CNN, FOX, BBC and other worldwide networks now, and I applaud them. IMHO the more diverse the news that is widely available to ALL worldwide the better informed we will be. I would like to see RT, CBC (Canada) BBC, Al Jezzera at al, right in there with CNN, FOX, and MSNBC, on the Cable and satellites here in the US. Expand and diversify.
 
correct me if I am wrong but this would give rise to my questions regarding exactly what gov't agencies and programns you are in favour of funding via your taxes.


ok, so you support at least one program.


18 will make it legal for senior high school. I would personally favour 21 but at the lowest, 19, and as I said I am not in favour of increasing the number of legal intoxicants.



those ICBMs that China and Russia have are purely defensive?



begs the question of how you can be certain you have been lied to on this specific subject.


yep, see 5


indeed it would be legalizing vengance killing



long on wind, short on details.
If all money owed to the Fed were defaulted on what assets would be left?



220 pounds of weed is a petty crime, and for personal use? :jaw-dropp At 1/10 of a pound a day ( I am dizzy thinking about that) this is over a 6 year supply.



You still haven't answered the question; do you propose a world wide(or at least American) monoculture?


Wow i can't believe i didn't catch the ufo thing the first time through. Wow, just wow, even for a pot thread this is getting wacky.

Why can't we talk about fun things about pot, like how i have a magic pipe that is actually just a spring. A loosely coiled spring. The mind boggles.
 
A lot of woo in that rant. But he will never top the "The Laws of Thermodynamics Are A Hoax" statement.
 
My list was one of mockery and that Dandyone actually agreed with a number of them clearly shows he is as complicated as eggplant curry but with less salt.

I'm most pleased Jaydeehess that you (no longer) wish to shoot your ex-wife. You have grown but you should try to stop playing hangman with her in mind twenty or thirty times a day.

Yeah i was floored by that as well, i mean i could understand a parody of your list. Or a " actually i do have some of my own points" but when your actually agreeing with the stereotype , well then it is time to rethink your life.

I kinda feel bad , its like if you got angry at someone in line at the supermarket and said " what are you Handicapped!?" and they turn around and say yes.
 
Yeah i was floored by that as well, i mean i could understand a parody of your list. Or a " actually i do have some of my own points" but when your actually agreeing with the stereotype , well then it is time to rethink your life.

I kinda feel bad , its like if you got angry at someone in line at the supermarket and said " what are you Handicapped!?" and they turn around and say yes.

Your kindness and sympathy warms my heart. Perhaps I should join some sort of 12 step program so I can feel more a part of the "real" world like you the other 'right thinking' debunkers. I'll take ths under advisement.
 
Yes Dandyone taking that under advisement would be a good idea. Now are you ready to explain to this eager crowd-which is clustering around this thread like vultures over a bloated rhino - awaiting yet more stundie type pronouncements!

So your list of contradictions. Could you explain to us how the US would, unlike the rest of the develop world, operate without a central bank?

You may also wish to answer my and others questions related to that amazing list.

Why do you still live in the US? As it appears, in your view point, to be the center of evil in the world. Why have you not fled or more importantly why are you not in armed revolt? Are you one of these sheeple we hear about all the time?
 
Could you explain to us how the US would, unlike the rest of the develop world, operate without a central bank?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNumEm2NzQA

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/evils-public-central-bank-aka-usa-federal-reserve

I wouldn't mind if there were a "Central Bank" per se, but I believe that our nation's monetary policy should be controlled by representatives of the people in an open, honest and cost effective manner. For the last century it has been controlled by a greedy group of theiving international bankers who privately own the US Federal Reserve. Here is one acceptable alternative.

- How to Bring Economic Democracy to the U.S.A. -


A Proposal that Would Require the Following Amendment to the Federal Constitution:

AMENDMENT XXVIII

Money and Credit - Congress Asserts Power To Coin Money, and Emit Bills of Credit

[SECTION 1.] The Congress hereby asserts the power, granted in this Constitution, to coin money, and to regulate the value thereof. - And further, to emit non-interest-bearing bills of credit directly through the Treasury Department (on the Credit, and in the Name of the People).

[SECTION 2.] The Congress hereby authorizes the Treasury to issue a sufficient quantity of "dollars" to purchase back the capital stock of the Federal Reserve Bank from the private owners, by eminent domain.

[SECTION 3.] The Federal Reserve Bank shall henceforth be subsumed into the Treasury, and function as a Sub-Treasury Central Bank of issue. Henceforth they shall be one institution, and be called, formally, the Treasury of the Common-wealth of the United States of America, or commonly, "The Treasury of Common-wealth."

[SECTION 4.] The Treasury of Common-wealth, as the fountainhead of Credit-Creation in the nation shall henceforth issue as Money only non-interest- bearing Notes, and Mint coins of pure Specie, stamped with their weight and fineness. The books, accounts and records of the Treasury shall continually be open to public scrutiny.

[SECTION 5.] The Treasury of Common-wealth shall honor, and continue to pay (by means of non-interest-bearing notes, and checks) the interest on all out-standing U. S. Treasury Securities, as they come due. There shall be no further issues of Treasury Securities, or Bonds.

[SECTION 6.] The State Treasury departments, of each of the fifty States, are also hereby empowered, by the same creative principle [formerly given by charter to banks] to create Credit within their own jurisdictions, in the form of checks, signed by the State comptrollers, in accordance with appropriations made by the State legislatures, for the purpose of maintaining State institutions, infrastructure, and salaries.

[SECTION 7.] In accordance with the provisions of this Article, all banks and financial institutions in America shall receive new charters from the Treasury. The Treasury shall henceforth have the unique and sole power within the nation to create Credit - a function formerly granted by the government (and thus erroneously delegated) only to Banks. Henceforth private banks may charge interest, to service accounts.

[SECTION 8.] In Sum, this Article defines, and enhances the powers granted to Congress and the Treasury, under Article I, Section 8, Clause 5, of this Constitution. Furthermore, it amends and modifies Article II, Section 10, Clause 1, to empower State Treasuries to create (a limited amount of non-inflationary Credit, in the form of check book money in order to meet the pressing needs of the states.

Mark Walter Evans
PaleoProgressives.org
 
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Thanks for the reply Dandyone

I wouldn't mind if there were a "Central Bank" per se, but I believe that our nation's monetary policy should be controlled by representatives of the people in an open, honest and cost effective manner. For the last century it has been controlled by a greedy group of theiving international bankers who privately own the US Federal Reserve. Here is one acceptable alternative.



One reason the Federal reserve was created was to keep politics OUT of the central bank while it was controlled by the Government.

The Federal Reserve isn't owned by anyone. The twelve regional banks ARE owned by US member banks who own non-transferable shares in them.

Instead, it is an independent entity within the government, having both public purposes and private aspects." In particular, the US Government does not own shares in the Federal Reserve System nor its component banks, but does take all of its profits after salaries are paid to employees, a dividend is paid to member banks that is 6% of their capital investment, and surplus is put in a capital account.

The US govenment also selects it highest level of employees and sets their salaries.

Currency is not printed by the Fed that is done by the US Treasury

Federal Banking Agency Audit Act enacted in 1978 as Public Law 95-320 and Section 31 USC 714 of US Code establish that the Federal Reserve is audited by the Government Accountability Office (GAO).

Soooo, not owned by greedy bankers. Most of the conspiracy directed at the Fed is by people with a poor or limited understanding of how fractional banking works. Many of the 'evil' associated to or applied to the Fed is actually the methodology of how fractional banking works.
 
Where did this meme that everything the Fed does is secret start? How many times do we have to demonstrate it's not true?
 

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