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H.a.a.r.p

Sledge said:
Admittedly, it's difficult to tell what you're saying. As I've suggested before, maybe you could look into getting someone more literate to post on your behalf.

Only narrow-minded in comparison to you. There's a difference between "open-minded" and "so open-minded that all intelligence keeps dropping out." Shame you don't know that difference.
So are you saying that HAARP is guarded or not? This is a very simple question.
Why don't you go and find out?

What are you trying to get at now? This has nothing to do with anything that's been discussed so far.
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stop dragging it on, you know what i mean so answer the questions i proposed instead of asking another.. im seriously thinking about just ignoring you cause its making me yawn.

Im saying ANY major building has surveillance, even most drug dealers houses do(whats the bet you'll address this more then anything else, maybe i should disarm that). And asking why isn't it guarded by the military when its on their hands and clearly stated - what is a military? war related.

Fair enough, i misunderstood someone elses interpretation of HAARP, my bad.
 
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This forum is not the best place for random thoughts on subjects you do not understand.
 
rorylee said:
No sir you just did.
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Oh good grief, I think we're getting into post-it territory with this one, but I'm going to point out that that doesn't make any sense. What is it you think I just did?
Lets test a weapon with these 2 points in mind

# You can inflict massive damage on your enemy's (or economic rival's) infrastructure, costing them a fortune to rebuild.
# You can hit them over and over, just enough to keep them from gaining the upper hand economically or militarily, maintaining the balance of power and avoiding war altogether.

on an uninhabited area say a desert (probably first tests) to see the structure and infrastructure damage caused etc. And remember its a 'natural diaster' :D attention will be made no matter what by news reporters. Do think before you speak?
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We already know what earthquakes do to things, so what logical reason is there to test if earthquakes still destroy stuff that's on top of the quaking earth?
rorylee said:
stop dragging it on, you know what i mean
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NO. No, I don't know what you mean. That's the point I'm making: your constant jumping from one point to another makes it impossible to know what you mean. It's something to do with H.A.A.R.P. and earthquakes, but other than that... not a clue.
so answer the questions i proposed instead of asking another.. im seriously thinking about just ignoring you cause its making me yawn.
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What questions do you want answers to?
Im saying ANY major building has surveillance, even most drug dealers houses do(whats the bet you'll address this more then anything else, maybe i should disarm that).
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Stop using the word "disarm." It doesn't mean what you think it means.
And asking why isn't it guarded by the military when its on their hands and clearly stated - what is a military? war related.
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What? This sort of thing is why people say you need to get back on your meds. That wasn't a coherent sentence. It started as one, then you just threw some words down and seemed to think that was enough.

You're not making sense, rory. It's not just me, it's not everyone else here, it's you. You're posting gibberish. It probably makes sense in your head (God, I hope it makes sense in your head), but you're not posting complete thoughts.
 
rorylee said:
Any building has surveillance, and been a military based operation wouldn't you think they would have some kind of defense to it? If i was Russian or from North Korea etc and found out HAARP was military corrected, i'd be interested as to why. But might back off once i hear its open to public and unguarded. 2 words, mind games.
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Yeah, 'cause the Americans have achieved such swell results historically with leaving important military installations under-defended.
http://markgorman.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/pearl-harbour-1.jpg
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Do not hotlink images from other sites without permission.

Spot on, makes for a pretty flawless victory doesn't it =] and if needed to declare war, you already have the upper hand. If such things were possible, you would still need to test it. Where else would you test it but on a place that doesn't have a large enough army or anything they can do in return.
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I'm glad you were not in charge of the Manhattan Project, or you'd probably test the first atomic bomb by detonating it over Mexico or Canada:rolleyes:.

To elaborate, when people test weapons, they test them on uninhabited areas. If they need to test what damage is done to ships, buildings, war machines, etc., they place some in the test area. Do you think there were people on this corvette?

 
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Sledge said:
Oh good grief, I think we're getting into post-it territory with this one, but I'm going to point out that that doesn't make any sense. What is it you think I just did?

We already know what earthquakes do to things, so what logical reason is there to test if earthquakes still destroy stuff that's on top of the quaking earth?
NO. No, I don't know what you mean. That's the point I'm making: your constant jumping from one point to another makes it impossible to know what you mean. It's something to do with H.A.A.R.P. and earthquakes, but other than that... not a clue.
What questions do you want answers to?
Stop using the word "disarm." It doesn't mean what you think it means.
What? This sort of thing is why people say you need to get back on your meds. That wasn't a coherent sentence. It started as one, then you just threw some words down and seemed to think that was enough.

You're not making sense, rory. It's not just me, it's not everyone else here, it's you. You're posting gibberish. It probably makes sense in your head (God, I hope it makes sense in your head), but you're not posting complete thoughts.
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Ok wow, just what i except in reply.. bs. others can make sense of it and post something decent in response to add to the debate than utter bs and seems like excuses for not answering. I seem to only have these topic of convos with you and maybe Marduk. im not going to bother with replying to you anymore sorry.
 
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rorylee, I'm afraid I don't understand why the link has been made between HAARP and earthquakes in the first place. As has been stated, the experiments performed are related to atmospheric electromagnetic waves, and have nothing to do with earthquakes.

In your opening post you provided an image of an article discussing the use of pumped water to relieve tension. Surely you don't think that HAARP operates in that field, do you?

In the YouTube video that you linked to, apart from the confusing conflation of acoustic waves and electromagnetic waves that I brought up previously, mention is made of the detection of electromagnetic signals before earthquakes occur. Even if earthquakes do reliably have electromagnetic precursors, the notion that these atmospheric events are what cause earthquakes seems untenable. Do you know of any evidence that this is not the case? Until you do, debate about government motives, method and security may be a bit premature.
 
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Safe-Keeper said:
Yeah, 'cause the Americans have achieved such swell results historically with leaving important military installations under-defended.
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I'm glad you were not in charge of the Manhattan Project, or you'd probably test the first atomic bomb by detonating it over Mexico or Canada:rolleyes:.

To elaborate, when people test weapons, they test them on uninhabited areas. If they need to test what damage is done to ships, buildings, war machines, etc., they place some in the test area. Do you think there were people on this corvette?
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Hahaha, no doubt but then again a Nuclear bomb is displayed as a bomb. A earthquake is displayed as a natural disaster and can be hidden. On a side note/thought you just gave me. NO Govt/military would make it publicly announced if in control or 'wanting' to be in control or 'knowing' of such a weapon because they 'want' control of such a weapon.

And Antennas in a field doesn't look quite the same as a a dock with boats.
 
rorylee said:
Ok wow, just what i except in reply.. bs. others can make sense of it and post something decent in response to add to the debate than utter bs and seems like excuses for not answering. I seem to only have these topic of convos with you and maybe Marduk. im not going to bother with replying to you anymore sorry.
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Insults directed at other posters are far less effective when they're illiterate, rory. You need to do something about addressing this problem.
 
Why would a test of an earthquake weapon need to be on an inhabited area? Stop and think about your conspiracy theory for a minute.
 
Here's a nice new conspiracy for you, rory. There is a group of people, who act out of boredom and ignorance, on the internet, spouting nonsense about the world in order to confuse others. They are sometimes engaged in group networks and have constructed intricate systems of lies, which they expound on unhumanly big and usually rather simplistic ugly websites. They have also infiltrated Youtube, making their nonsense even more accessible to the uneducated, who fall for it like ants on a glass of Coke. These pranksters do not get paid. They are not inhibited by knowledge. They want you to propagate their absurdities. They are after you!
 
Cosmic Roy said:
rorylee, I'm afraid I don't understand why the link has been made between HAARP and earthquakes in the first place. As has been stated, the experiments performed are related to atmospheric electromagnetic waves, and have nothing to do with earthquakes.

In your opening post you provided an image of an article discussing the use of pumped water to relieve tension. Surely you don't think that HAARP operates in that field, do you?

In the YouTube video that you linked to, apart from the confusing conflation of acoustic waves and electromagnetic waves that I brought up previously, mention is made of the detection of electromagnetic signals before earthquakes occur. Even if earthquakes do reliably have electromagnetic precursors, the notion that these atmospheric events are what cause earthquakes seems untenable. Do you know of any evidence that this is not the case? Until you do, debate about government motives, method and security may be a bit premature.
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Yea i understand, maybe i should have placed the thread under conspiracy theories instead of General Skepticism.

I don't believe HAARP is connected to the idea of pumping water, but the idea was there first, however i did make the topic as HAARP which after thinking how critical everyone is here, i shoulda made it something else.

HAARP was simply something else i was told to look up when i only posted that image on another forum and asked the question 'can earthquakes be mad-made' and i found alot of people thinking the same way as me(not one here obviously) but the facts they have handed out to the public don't add up to what causes a quake or speculation we are told it doesn't, i don't think anyone here would have the power to do/test such things, but still i found it interesting as i was looking for a reason to why i had a thought the earthquakes were man-made lately and not thinking that a couple years ago. They were 2 possibilities i found, rather then none.

Maybe before posting anything about HAARP or the water pumping idea, i should have asked the question 'Can earthquakes be man-made at all' given science wants to explain & control pretty much everything in existences.
 
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Ikarus said:
Here's a nice new conspiracy for you, rory. There is a group of people, who act out of boredom and ignorance, on the internet, spouting nonsense about the world in order to confuse others. They are sometimes engaged in group networks and have constructed intricate systems of lies, which they expound on unhumanly big and usually rather simplistic ugly websites. They have also infiltrated Youtube, making their nonsense even more accessible to the uneducated, who fall for it like ants on a glass of Coke. These pranksters do not get paid. They are not inhibited by knowledge. They want you to propagate their absurdities. They are after you!
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Sounds abit like top secret agencies or Governments but they get paid with our taxes mmm can i pass?
 
Ikarus said:
Here's a nice new conspiracy for you, rory. There is a group of people, who act out of boredom and ignorance, on the internet, spouting nonsense about the world in order to confuse others. They are sometimes engaged in group networks and have constructed intricate systems of lies, which they expound on unhumanly big and usually rather simplistic ugly websites. They have also infiltrated Youtube, making their nonsense even more accessible to the uneducated, who fall for it like ants on a glass of Coke. These pranksters do not get paid. They are not inhibited by knowledge. They want you to propagate their absurdities. They are after you!
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Careful what you say. Anonymous does not forgive or forget.
 
rorylee, I'm afraid I don't understand why the link has been made between HAARP and earthquakes in the first place. As has been stated, the experiments performed are related to atmospheric electromagnetic waves, and have nothing to do with earthquakes.
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I'm no expert, so I can't judge its accuracy (and I think this has been posted already in this thread), but Skeptoid has a nice episode that sums up the points and addresses them one by one.

Insults directed at other posters are far less effective when they're illiterate, rory. You need to do something about addressing this problem.
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I hate to say this, rory, but you do post in a sometimes incomprehensible manner. I don't know why, but the fact remains that we sometimes actually do not understand what you write.
 
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Rory, do you actually understand how earthquakes happen, if not I'd happily link you to the information (with no sarcasm) so that you can clearly see what youre getting wrong ?

interested ?
;)
 
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