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Cosmic Roy said:
I apologise if this has already been brought up (I've only skimmed the thread), but I'm confused about this YouTube video. Perhaps, rorylee, you can clear it up for me.

It's my understanding that the studies conducted at HAARP are electromagnetic in nature. So when in that video the exploration geophysicist introduced his work in Oregon, I assumed that he was using something like ground penetrating radar. The picture shown of workers in the field with a large antenna seem to confirm that EM radiation was used. But then in the section showing his lab demonstration, the man uses a loudspeaker to mobilise the unstable rock, and says that ELF waves are like those produced by a subwoofer.

Now of course loudspeakers do indeed produce electrical signals, because that's how the diaphragm is made to vibrate. But in the case of the geophysicist's model, I don't think that the EM waves produced by the speaker were the immediate cause of the slip; the resonance that he spoke of was caused by pressure waves. And yet the comparison was drawn with HAARP. Was the geophysicist using an EM or a seismic method? If EM, why in his model did he use a subwoofer rather than an EM device that would not produce acoustic waves? If seismic, what is the relationship to HAARP, an EM experiment?

I'm confused. Please, rorylee or anybody, could you help me out?
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Im abit confused also when it comes to the wave talk. If someone else could elaborate more on the matter that would be awesome =] Could HAARP produce pressure waves?
 
rorylee said:
Im abit confused also when it comes to the wave talk. If someone else could elaborate more on the matter that would be awesome =] Could HAARP produce pressure waves?
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That is the kind of stuff you should have figured out before starting the tread.
 
Belz... said:
With a population of 17 million, that would be 0.011 people per home :rolleyes:



According to conspiracy theorists, there are no coincidences. Everything is done by the evil government.
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Iam a form believer in no such thing as coincidences too, everything happens for a reason.

1.5 million homes is still alot.. thats like Brisbane's population in relation to people to homes.

I was told today(dont really watch the news, i get told things) that in Chile now the law enforcement are killing people who are looting stores for food. its caused chaos =\ with people who has kids, no house and need food & water. Wonder if the American or British military will step like Haiti and stay a cpl years, they like shooting people also!
 
rorylee said:
Any building has surveillance, and been a military based operation wouldn't you think they would have some kind of defense to it? If i was Russian or from North Korea etc and found out HAARP was military corrected, i'd be interested as to why. But might back off once i hear its open to public and unguarded. 2 words, mind games.
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Could you at least pick a story and stick to it? One minute you're claiming the site is unguarded, the next you're saying it is guarded. Which is it?

As to your cunning "mind games," that's so crazy it might just work! is crazy. That's simply not how any government or military operates with anything. Important stuff gets guarded. Stuff you don't want people to know about gets hidden and guarded. You don't risk everything on a massive double bluff and hope other nation's intelligence agencies are stupid to the point of mental illness.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Just imagining for a moment that a secret earthquake machine was possible, it would be a much more effective weapon than nukes:

  • Unlike nukes, you can use it without declaring war, 'cos nobody will know you did it.
  • You can inflict massive damage on your enemy's (or economic rival's) infrastructure, costing them a fortune to rebuild.
  • You can hit them over and over, just enough to keep them from gaining the upper hand economically or militarily, maintaining the balance of power and avoiding war altogether.

But pie-in-the-sky aside, earthquakes just keep on happening along the same old fault lines. (Unless you can think of some pressing reason why a major power needs to keep Haiti in check.:rolleyes:)
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Spot on, makes for a pretty flawless victory doesn't it =] and if needed to declare war, you already have the upper hand. If such things were possible, you would still need to test it. Where else would you test it but on a place that doesn't have a large enough army or anything they can do in return.
 
rorylee said:
Spot on, makes for a pretty flawless victory doesn't it =] and if needed to declare war, you already have the upper hand. If such things were possible, you would still need to test it. Where else would you test it but on a place that doesn't have a large enough army or anything they can do in return.
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Yes, that would certainly make more sense than testing it somewhere uninhabited. Remember, when testing your top secret weapon, it's important to draw global attention to it.:confused:

Do you ever stop for even a second and think "Wow, what I just typed made no sense whatsoever"?
 
rorylee said:
Im abit confused also when it comes to the wave talk.
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That would be the result of the lack of understanding of anything whatsoever about the real world displayed in your posts.

You haven't asked a sensible question yet, despite opening numerous JAQ threads, and it's beginning to look as though you couldn't do so if your life depended on it.


rorylee said:
If someone else could elaborate more on the matter that would be awesome =] Could HAARP produce pressure waves?
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No.

Apart from that, why do you think anyone would bother explaining stuff to you when you display no intention of listening?
 
rorylee said:
Iam a form believer in no such thing as coincidences too, everything happens for a reason.
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This is gonna come as a huge shock, rory, but your form beliefs are about as relevant as those of a retarded cane toad.


rorylee said:
1.5 million homes is still alot.. thats like Brisbane's population in relation to people to homes.
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That's irrelevant, rory.

What's relevant is your inability to post anything even resembling the truth.


rorylee said:
I was told today(dont really watch the news, i get told things) that in Chile now the law enforcement are killing people who are looting stores for food.
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Yet another totally clueless statement, backed up with a statement of the reasons for its cluelessness.

Brilliant work.


rorylee said:
its caused chaos =\ with people who has kids, no house and need food & water. Wonder if the American or British military will step like Haiti and stay a cpl years, they like shooting people also!
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Are your more offensive posts like this one made on purpose, or are they just as random as the rest of them?
 
rorylee said:
Spot on, makes for a pretty flawless victory doesn't it =] and if needed to declare war, you already have the upper hand.
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I'm almost positive that the word 'flawless' is cringing to find itself in one of your posts.


rorylee said:
If such things were possible, you would still need to test it. Where else would you test it but on a place that doesn't have a large enough army or anything they can do in return.
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Clueless, but consistent.
 
Sledge said:
Could you at least pick a story and stick to it? One minute you're claiming the site is unguarded, the next you're saying it is guarded. Which is it?

As to your cunning "mind games," that's so crazy it might just work! is crazy. That's simply not how any government or military operates with anything. Important stuff gets guarded. Stuff you don't want people to know about gets hidden and guarded. You don't risk everything on a massive double bluff and hope other nation's intelligence agencies are stupid to the point of mental illness.
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Where did i say its guarded? keep your mind on the story, thought it would be pretty easy for a narrow minded person. Or are you hinting a camera is a 'guard'?. Im not to sure on it, however anything military related usually is military guarded, no matter how big or small its still military and war related.

Now a different part, not attached to the story above just to make it clear for you. Its a new form of USA military communication correct? wouldn't another country who don't stand by USA in a sense, say North Korea and possibly Russia (im sure many don't) be interested in hearing what communication is been used and try to tap into it, like every other form of communication we have at present?
 
rorylee said:
Im abit confused also when it comes to the wave talk. If someone else could elaborate more on the matter that would be awesome =] Could HAARP produce pressure waves?
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Well, the whole video seemed fishy to me, so I did a quick bit of research. The geophysicist in the video appears to be this chap, who is the leader of - wait for it - the North Pole Inner Earth Expedition!

Forgive my cynicism, but now I think I might understand why the video made so little sense. Could it be because the man is a crank?
 
Ah, yeah...

Chile, as we all know, is part of the Axis of Evil. Its not a democracy, it has no free market, foreign companies can not work there, it sponsors terrorism...

So it makes sense USA using its imaginary earthquake überweapon against it...

Wait, maybe it was someone else! Maybe Russia, Denmark or the space nazis!!!!
 
rorylee said:
Where did i say its guarded?
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and been a military based operation wouldn't you think they would have some kind of defense to it?
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Admittedly, it's difficult to tell what you're saying. As I've suggested before, maybe you could look into getting someone more literate to post on your behalf.
keep your mind on the story, thought it would be pretty easy for a narrow minded person.
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Only narrow-minded in comparison to you. There's a difference between "open-minded" and "so open-minded that all intelligence keeps dropping out." Shame you don't know that difference.
Or are you hinting a camera is a 'guard'?. Im not to sure on it, however anything military related usually is military guarded, no matter how big or small its still military and war related.
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So are you saying that HAARP is guarded or not? This is a very simple question.
Now a different part, not attached to the story above just to make it clear for you. Its a new form of USA military communication correct?
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Why don't you go and find out?
wouldn't another country who don't stand by USA in a sense, say North Korea and possibly Russia (im sure many don't) be interested in hearing what communication is been used and try to tap into it, like every other form of communication we have at present?
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What are you trying to get at now? This has nothing to do with anything that's been discussed so far.
 
rorylee said:
Where did i say its guarded? keep your mind on the story, thought it would be pretty easy for a narrow minded person. Or are you hinting a camera is a 'guard'?. Im not to sure on it, however anything military related usually is military guarded, no matter how big or small its still military and war related.

Now a different part, not attached to the story above just to make it clear for you. Its a new form of USA military communication correct? wouldn't another country who don't stand by USA in a sense, say North Korea and possibly Russia (im sure many don't) be interested in hearing what communication is been used and try to tap into it, like every other form of communication we have at present?
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Rory, its not a new form of communication, its just a test centre to study the atmosphere in order to make our current forms of communication more efficient.
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Do these look like a new form of technology to you ?
they are in fact standard crossed dipole antenna invented in 1886 by Heinrich Rudolph Hertz (you may have heard of him)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Rudolph_Hertz

its not possible to use these to start earthquakes any more than its possible to start earthquakes with a walkie talkie
 
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Sledge said:
Yes, that would certainly make more sense than testing it somewhere uninhabited. Remember, when testing your top secret weapon, it's important to draw global attention to it.:confused:

Do you ever stop for even a second and think "Wow, what I just typed made no sense whatsoever"?
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No sir you just did. Lets test a weapon with these 2 points in mind

# You can inflict massive damage on your enemy's (or economic rival's) infrastructure, costing them a fortune to rebuild.
# You can hit them over and over, just enough to keep them from gaining the upper hand economically or militarily, maintaining the balance of power and avoiding war altogether.

on an uninhabited area say a desert (probably first tests) to see the structure and infrastructure damage caused etc. And remember its a 'natural diaster' :D attention will be made no matter what by news reporters. Do think before you speak?
 
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