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I expect different people heard different things, with different volumes, depending on where they were.
I'll agree it's impossible to know the exact cause of what each person heard after the fact.
Some causes can be ruled out, however.

More specifically, I think it's unlikely there was an explosion large enough to cut structural elements of a steel-framed building.
One that size would have been heard by everyone on Manhattan Island, and it would have shown up on virtually every sound recording being made immediately prior to a building's collapse.

I'm really rather puzzled as to why you think that different people hearing different things depending on where they were is an insane position. If everyone had heard the same thing at the same time, regardless of where they were, if a sharp jolt showed up on the seismographic record, then you might have a case for cutting charges. But that didn't happen.
 
TjW said:
I expect different people heard different things, with different volumes, depending on where they were.
I'll agree it's impossible to know the exact cause of what each person heard after the fact.
Some causes can be ruled out, however.

More specifically, I think it's unlikely there was an explosion large enough to cut structural elements of a steel-framed building.
One that size would have been heard by everyone on Manhattan Island, and it would have shown up on virtually every sound recording being made immediately prior to a building's collapse.

I'm really rather puzzled as to why you think that different people hearing different things depending on where they were is an insane position. If everyone had heard the same thing at the same time, regardless of where they were, if a sharp jolt showed up on the seismographic record, then you might have a case for cutting charges. But that didn't happen.
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I think it is insane to claim for a fact what it is they heard. The building according to debunkers collapsed without any explosives. The building floors were an acre wide. So if explosives were in the core how far was that from the street? Once the building started to fail from hundreds of feet in the air and hundreds of feet into the core how many people would have heard these sounds as the building fell all the way down? Would they and their recorder still be alive? What does it matter?

My point is still that no one now can claim what anyone heard and what they didn't well after the fact.
 
Profanz said:
I think it is insane to claim for a fact what it is they heard. The building according to debunkers collapsed without any explosives. The building floors were an acre wide. So if explosives were in the core how far was that from the street? Once the building started to fail from hundreds of feet in the air and hundreds of feet into the core how many people would have heard these sounds as the building fell all the way down? Would they and their recorder still be alive? What does it matter?

My point is still that no one now can claim what anyone heard and what they didn't well after the fact.
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In the 1993 bombing, the bomb (equal to 1,000 pound of TNT) wasn't large enough to cause structural damage to a tower. The bomb was 6 floors deep in the basement parking lot yet it was heard all over the 16 acre WTC complex and inside all the buildings.

No such explosion was heard on 9/11.

Any noise heard by only one person or recorded on one camera can't possibly be caused by man-made demolition large enough to cause the collapse of a tower.
 
BigAl said:
In the 1993 bombing, the bomb (equal to 1,000 pound of TNT) wasn't large enough to cause structural damage to a tower. The bomb was 6 floors deep in the basement parking lot yet it was heard all over the 16 acre WTC complex and inside all the buildings.

No such explosion was heard on 9/11.

Any noise heard by only one person or recorded on one camera can't possibly be caused by man-made demolition large enough to cause the collapse of a tower.
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A 110 story building was not collapsing at the same time in 93. And still, you claim the buildings collapsed from the plane crashes and fire. Look at the video of the plane crashes. It's not that loud from the perspective of the cameras recording it. How loud was the fire?
 
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Profanz said:
I think it is insane to claim for a fact what it is they heard. The building according to debunkers collapsed without any explosives. The building floors were an acre wide. So if explosives were in the core how far was that from the street? Once the building started to fail from hundreds of feet in the air and hundreds of feet into the core how many people would have heard these sounds as the building fell all the way down? Would they and their recorder still be alive? What does it matter?

My point is still that no one now can claim what anyone heard and what they didn't well after the fact.
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The people closest to the collapses were the fortunate souls who were in the stairwell inside the part of the core of WTC 1 that remained standing. They were right next to the core columns and reported hearing nothing even close to explosions. Hang your hat on that.
 
Profanz said:
No I did not know as much. In fact that line of thinking seems to me to be insane. If people heard explosions and claimed as much there is absolutely no way to determine exactly what they heard or how loud it was after the fact.

Did you not know that?
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http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/whattheyheard

Your lack of knowledge is showing truther.
Why are you so unprepared, did you get banned here before? You can't be this ignorant on 911 after 8 years and been here since 2007.

What is your excuse for being knowledge free on 911?

How many explosions heard were bodies hitting the ground? Got knowledge?
 
Sam.I.Am said:
The people closest to the collapses were the fortunate souls who were in the stairwell inside the part of the core of WTC 1 that remained standing. They were right next to the core columns and reported hearing nothing even close to explosions. Hang your hat on that.
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Show me what they reported.
 
Profanz said:
A 110 story building was not collapsing at the same time in 93. And still, you claim the buildings collapsed form the plane crashes and fire. Look at the video of the plane crashes. It's not that loud from the perspective of the cameras recording it. How loud was the fire?
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I don't know what your point is but no explosions were heard at WTC that were consistent with man-made demolition. By "consistent", I mean loudness, timing and brisance.

the 1993 bombing was heard everywhere yet it wasn't big enough to do structural damage.
 
Profanz said:
Show me what they reported.
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Read Report from Ground Zero by Smith. He reports what they said about the experience. I can't recite from memory but they didn't say they heard any demolition explosives.
 
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Truthers lack knowledge on 911. Youtube, is their source, we have heard their failed lies and they fail to use math and physics.

got physics

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well do you truther
 
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BigAl said:
I don't know what your point is but no explosions were heard at WTC that were consistent with man-made demolition. By "consistent", I mean loudness, timing and brisance.

the 1993 bombing was heard everywhere yet it wasn't big enough to do structural damage.
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There is absolutely nothing historically consistent with what is claimed to have happened on 9/11. There is nothing to compare it to because it just doesn't happen.
 
Profanz said:
There is absolutely nothing historically consistent with what is claimed to have happened on 9/11. There is nothing to compare it to because it just doesn't happen.
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Huh?

No explosions were heard at WTC that were consistent with man-made demolition. By "consistent", I mean loudness, timing and brisance.

The 1993 bombing was heard everywhere yet it wasn't big enough to do structural damage.
 
Profanz said:
A 110 story building was not collapsing at the same time in 93. And still, you claim the buildings collapsed from the plane crashes and fire. Look at the video of the plane crashes. It's not that loud from the perspective of the cameras recording it. How loud was the fire?
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High explosives are loud because they release a large amount of energy within milliseconds, producing a powerful shock wave.

A plane crash and a fire can release the same amount of energy, but over a longer period of time. There is no shock wave (at least, not as powerful as with high explosives).

I assume you already know this and are feigning ignorance, but I am interested to see how you will respond.
 
BigAl said:
Huh?

No explosions were heard at WTC that were consistent with man-made demolition. By "consistent", I mean loudness, timing and brisance.

The 1993 bombing was heard everywhere yet it wasn't big enough to do structural damage.
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So what is your point?
 
Profanz said:
I think it is insane to claim for a fact what it is they heard. The building according to debunkers collapsed without any explosives. The building floors were an acre wide. So if explosives were in the core how far was that from the street? Once the building started to fail from hundreds of feet in the air and hundreds of feet into the core how many people would have heard these sounds as the building fell all the way down? Would they and their recorder still be alive? What does it matter?

My point is still that no one now can claim what anyone heard and what they didn't well after the fact.
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Profanz said:
A 110 story building was not collapsing at the same time in 93. And still, you claim the buildings collapsed from the plane crashes and fire. Look at the video of the plane crashes. It's not that loud from the perspective of the cameras recording it. How loud was the fire?
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Profanz said:
There is absolutely nothing historically consistent with what is claimed to have happened on 9/11. There is nothing to compare it to because it just doesn't happen.
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Profanz said:
I think it is insane to claim for a fact what it is they heard. The building according to debunkers collapsed without any explosives. The building floors were an acre wide. So if explosives were in the core how far was that from the street? Once the building started to fail from hundreds of feet in the air and hundreds of feet into the core how many people would have heard these sounds as the building fell all the way down? Would they and their recorder still be alive? What does it matter?

My point is still that no one now can claim what anyone heard and what they didn't well after the fact.
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Absolutely. The one thing we can be sure of is that none of the explosions could have been powerful enough to sever structural elements in the buildings.
 
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