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What about this crop circle?

As Limbo seems to be back, I'll try again.
Limbo said:
On one hand we have amateur circlemakers sneaking around illegally. On the other hand we have professionals and a media event and permission from the land owner. I think it's worth while examining any differences between these two in light of crop circle characteristics.
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Sledge said:
Why?
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Drewbot said:
How about a crop design, where it looks like the alien is crawling out of the fertile dust, similar to NYC sidewalk chalk drawings.
http://nocrappycrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/chulk3.jpeg
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I have been working on some designs that are specifically 'viewer angle' critical, but they are a bit of a nightmare to do. I'm sure it is only a matter of time before someone manages to get a good workable design.
My original idea was to have an 'egg' shape in the field (it would look like an egg shape from an aerial photo) but if you stood at a certain point in the field, it would appear like a perfect circle like has been done here:

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But de-constructing the geometry that would need plotting means the use of too many 'construction points' and guides as shown below:

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Which would leave this shape (in red) in the field.

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Obviously, circlemakers dont have the luxury of using such visible construction lines and when completed, the lines can't be rubbed out of the crop like they can on a pavement.

Regular oval crop circles aren't really difficult though (for anyone who knows anything about basic geometry) and using two anchor points and a set length loop of string to make an oval is well within the bounds of human capability, in the dark, in a field. I think the reason the technique is not used more often is that for some reason, oval's just don't look as good aesthetically.
 
aggle-rithm said:
Documentaries about the psychopathology of creduloids?
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Indeed, as someone who works in the advertising industry, it still never ceases to amaze me how people are taken in by someone with something to sell, telling you how good it is. You'd think that people would need a little more unbiased opinion before buying into it.

It's called willful ignorance.
 
Cuddles said:
This is the part that really gets me. Sure the whole pooping thing is completely ridiculous and just demonstrates a rather severe lack of ever having been outdoors, but this first point is even worse. The idea is that these crop circles are mostly made secretly at night. Suggesting that going to the toilet is a major problem implies that Limbo believes no-one can manage to sleep a whole night without having to get up at some point to take a crap.

I can just about accept that someone could have so little clue about outdoors activities. But how could anyone be quite so clueless about the mechanics of going to the toilet? How could anyone seriously think that it's impossible to go about your daily life without pooping at least two or three times a day at regularly spaced intervals? Do Limbo, his family, and anyone else he may have lived with all have severe intestinal problems? What could possibly give rise to the idea that it's impossible to spend a few hours outside at night without pooping?



I like it. Crop circles are so last century. This is the century of 3D, dammit. I want crop spheres!
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Anyone who has 2 and 1/2 minutes to listen to this song about poop, should:
http://ktwray.webs.com/Over The Rhine - The Poopsmith Song.mp3
It will change your life, I know it did mine ...
 
Illinois Hoaxers Arrested, Charged with Felony Criminal Property Damage

"This is just an quick note to let everyone know of arrests and impending prosecution for a hoaxed crop circle formation in Valmeyer, Monroe County, Illinois which took place in September. Four people were identified as making the crop circle, because an eyewitness had spotted a truck fleeing the scene and got a license plate which led police to track down the hoaxers. Because the damage was estimated to be over $10,000, one adult involved will be charged with a felony offense. The three others involved were juveniles, and their cases will be handled differently. Valmeyer, IL is about 10 miles south of the 2006 Belleville, IL hoaxed circles in soybeans along the Mississippi River."

Looks like they parked too close to the scene. Sloppy.
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What's your point? They got caught, therefore...?
 
The police had jammed the psychic channel so the aliens couldn't warn the crop circle makers.
That sounds a bit like a limbo explanation, so it must be TRUE!!!!
 
If it had been raining that night they'd have got away with it due to the paranormalness of the rain.
 
Elizabeth I said:
What's your point? They got caught, therefore...?
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Well it's just that something doesn't add up. Punk-ass adolescent pranksters and occasionally an artistic soul with a media presence. Is that it for the circlemaker community?

Where is the math genius circlemaker who conceived of an original theorem? Where is the linguistic genius behind this one:

http://www.dcca.nl/art/milkhill.jpg


Has any circlemaker group claimed responsibility for these? I'm not sure but if so I would like to talk to them. I wonder how many circles go unclaimed by circlemaker groups every year?

I mean, the crop circle community needs to have disciplined geniuses with resources, time, health, and education. And they waste it on thousands of crop circles? WTF?

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Limbo said:
Well it's just that something doesn't add up.
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What doesn't add up? Everything you've raised is well within the ability of regular humans without any paranormal activity. Everything.

Where is the math genius circlemaker who conceived of an original theorem? Where is the linguistic genius behind this one:

[qimg]http://www.dcca.nl/art/milkhill.jpg[/qimg]
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Just people. I promise you, just people using regular old human abilities.


I mean, the crop circle community needs to have disciplined geniuses with resources, time, health, and education. And they waste it on thousands of crop circles? WTF?
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Compared to what? Do you know how many hours it takes to learn and train to qualify for the men's half pipe finals at the Olympics? WTF? Most who try don't make it.

And most of them don't even get endorsements or anything.

It doesn't add up! There must be something paranormal about people learning wacked out crazy tricks on a snowboard!
 
Limbo said:
Where is the linguistic genius behind this one:

[qimg]http://www.dcca.nl/art/milkhill.jpg[/qimg]
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Speaking of linguistics, guess what that mysterious symbol in yellow in the lower right hand corner of the image means? It looks just like the letter "c" inside a circle.

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Limbo said:
I mean, the crop circle community needs to have disciplined geniuses with resources, time, health, and education. And they waste it on thousands of crop circles? WTF?
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Are you talking about the people who make the circles, or over-analyze them?
 
Limbo said:
Where is the linguistic genius behind this one:

[qimg]http://www.dcca.nl/art/milkhill.jpg[/qimg]
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What I found most amusing about that link is that, when a group of "experts" and "scholars" are asked to translate the symbols, and each of them comes up with a different meaning, instead of concluding that therefore very likely it's just gibberish the conclusion is: "There were many translations of this mysterious script and I think that all of them are right."

Yup, that makes a lot of sense. :D
 
Limbo said:
Well it's just that something doesn't add up. Punk-ass adolescent pranksters and occasionally an artistic soul with a media presence. Is that it for the circlemaker community?

Where is the math genius circlemaker who conceived of an original theorem?
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This is actually quite simple to answer... Gerald Hawkins although obviously a clever and educated man used circular reasoning to arrive at the conclusion that circlemakers would need to KNOW the theorems, in order to be able to embed them into the designs... There is no requirement to know the geometry in order to draw it.
For example, Pretend I didn't know that there were 360° in the circumference of a circle and that I didn't understand the radius was half the diameter, not did I have any knowledge of Pi. Would that then prevent me from drawing a circle?

Then there was the assumption that the circlemakers would have known, nay invented these theorems and hidden them for Hawkins to find, again circular reasoning. Infact, the exact proportions required in order to show Hawkins' first theorem, shown here in the circle it was first recognised in:
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Here in just a line diagram:

theorem1f.png


And here, showing that Hawkins could well have discovered the relationship between the elements of the formation had be been sat in his local Starbucks looking at a dirty table cloth:

Coffe-Stain-Theorem.jpg


Once recognised can be found in the Yamaha logo:

2yamahalogo.jpg


A logo that was designed in Japan in 1927, a long time before the 'complex' geometry of the crop circles, a long time before Doug & Dave and a long time before Gerald Hawkins... but funny how no one suggests that the graphic designer who designed this logo must have had secret knowledge of un-discovered geometric theorems.

Limbo said:
Where is the linguistic genius behind this one:

http://www.dcca.nl/art/milkhill.jpg
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It's actually a very easy code to crack. It was a direct response to Dr, Terence Meaden (one of the original three crop circle 'researchers')
And quite simply it is decoded by imagining that only the bottom half of the letters has been placed. When the top half is added, this is the message:
MeadenTalksShit.jpg



Limbo said:
Has anyone claimed responsibility for these? I'm not sure but if so I would like to talk to them.
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While you have the people who know, on ignore, you're hardly going to get an opportunity to talk to them :rolleyes:

Limbo said:
I mean, the crop circle community needs to have disciplined geniuses with resources, time, health, and education. And they waste it on thousands of crop circles? WTF?
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Everyone needs a hobby Limbo, for some people it's making crop circles, for others it's watching crap documentaries on YouTube.

And those documentaries you are watching obviously aint teaching you anything.
 
Stray Cat said:
This is actually quite simple to answer... Gerald Hawkins although obviously a clever and educated man used circular reasoning to arrive at the conclusion that circlemakers would need to KNOW the theorems, in order to be able to embed them into the designs... There is no requirement to know the geometry in order to draw it.
For example, Pretend I didn't know that there were 360° in the circumference of a circle and that I didn't understand the radius was half the diameter, not did I have any knowledge of Pi. Would that then prevent me from drawing a circle?

Then there was the assumption that the circlemakers would have known, nay invented these theorems and hidden them for Hawkins to find, again circular reasoning. Infact, the exact proportions required in order to show Hawkins' first theorem, shown here in the circle it was first recognised in:
[qimg]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/ThePsychoClown/t4_jpeg.jpg[/qimg]

Here in just a line diagram:

[qimg]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/ThePsychoClown/theorem1f.png[/qimg]

And here, showing that Hawkins could well have discovered the relationship between the elements of the formation had be been sat in his local Starbucks looking at a dirty table cloth:

[qimg]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/ThePsychoClown/Coffe-Stain-Theorem.jpg[/qimg]

Once recognised can be found in the Yamaha logo:

[qimg]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/ThePsychoClown/2yamahalogo.jpg[/qimg]

A logo that was designed in Japan in 1927, a long time before the 'complex' geometry of the crop circles, a long time before Doug & Dave and a long time before Gerald Hawkins... but funny how no one suggests that the graphic designer who designed this logo must have had secret knowledge of un-discovered geometric theorems.



It's actually a very easy code to crack. It was a direct response to Dr, Terence Meaden (one of the original three crop circle 'researchers')
And quite simply it is decoded by imagining that only the bottom half of the letters has been placed. When the top half is added, this is the message:
[qimg]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/ThePsychoClown/MeadenTalksShit.jpg[/qimg]




While you have the people who know, on ignore, you're hardly going to get an opportunity to talk to them :rolleyes:


Everyone needs a hobby Limbo, for some people it's making crop circles, for others it's watching crap documentaries on YouTube.

And those documentaries you are watching obviously aint teaching you anything.
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Just a social service to the community.... :)
 
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