Germany had the atomic bomb first

drkitten said:
... The Nazis could not have used francium as a "dirty bomb" material because there wasn't and still isn't enough of it. There has never been enough of it in any one time/place even to weigh ... And that's what I'm questioning. I'm not sure they even could have.
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That's for the real scientists, historians and military experts to determine. As for me, I'm content to sit here, drink my tea, and thank whatever powers may be that the Nazis lost the war.
 
I would think the Nazis would have used UPS, you know, the guys in the brown shirts.
 
Fnord said:
Nazi Germany never had a nuclear bomb. America did ... twice ... and won the war.
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Actually, the U.S. had three—one of which was used in the Trinity test to prove that an implosion-type plutonium-based bomb design would actually work.

Not sure if the U.S. managed to finish additional atomic bombs before the Japanese surrender...
 
MaGZ said:
I think the author of Hitlers Bombe knows it was not a 'dirty bomb'. He knows it takes time for the public to accept the truth, so he presents a 'dirty bomb' scenario first.

All the eyewitnesses descriptions are inconsistent with a 'dirty bomb'.
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A Holocaust denier relying on eyewitnesses?
 
Corsair 115 said:
Actually, the U.S. had three—one of which was used in the Trinity test to prove that an implosion-type plutonium-based bomb design would actually work.

Not sure if the U.S. managed to finish additional atomic bombs before the Japanese surrender...
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I stand corrected. Thank you.





(... mumbly grumbly smart-aleck and his grumbly mumbly whatever ...)
 
Fnord said:
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That's for the real scientists, historians and military experts to determine. As for me, I'm content to sit here, drink my tea, and thank whatever powers may be that the Nazis lost the war.
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And watch Der Untergang on dvd.I like the happy ending where the bad guy commits suicide.
 
As for more bombs .. here is a cut from wiki:

Plans for more atomic attacks on Japan

The U.S. expected to have another atomic bomb ready for use in the third week of August, with three more in September and a further three in October.[77] On August 10, Major General Leslie Groves, military director of the Manhattan Project, sent a memorandum to General of the Army George Marshall, Army Chief of Staff, in which he wrote that "the next bomb . . should be ready for delivery on the first suitable weather after 17 or August 18." On the same day, Marshall endorsed the memo with the comment, "It is not to be released over Japan without express authority from the President."[77] There was already discussion in the War Department about conserving the bombs in production until Operation Downfall, the projected invasion of Japan, had begun. "The problem now [August 13] is whether or not, assuming the Japanese do not capitulate, to continue dropping them every time one is made and shipped out there or whether to hold them . . . and then pour them all on in a reasonably short time. Not all in one day, but over a short period. And that also takes into consideration the target that we are after. In other words, should we not concentrate on targets that will be of the greatest assistance to an invasion rather than industry, morale, psychology, and the like? Nearer the tactical use rather than other use."[77]
 
drkitten said:
For example, technically depleted uranium is radioactive (and for that matter, so, technically, is bismuth), but neither of them are radioactive enough to be any sort of a threat.
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No? Exposure to inhaled radioactivity can eventually cause lung cancer. Along with another known carcinogen, like tobacco tar, the process is accelerated. During WWII US GIs were issued cigarettes in their C Ration "Accessory Packs." The Germans knew this and set off the Thuringian dirty bomb so that GIs would, 35 years later, develop lung cancer. Devilishly clever, those Krauts. :rolleyes:
 
JFrankA said:
Tell me how an atomic bomb leaves no radiation and Hitler has never used it.

Is this evidence of nothing?

Think now
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An atomic explosion is just an explosion. The unique thing about a nuke is that it uses the strong nuclear force to create a shock and thermal wave, not the the shock and thermal wave result in light and heat, which drives your mushroom cloud. Any sufficiently large explosion will mimic the effects you mention, even one so mundane as flour blown into the air and ignited.

Try thinking now.
 
JFrankA said:
Tell me how an atomic bomb leaves no radiation and Hitler has never used it.

Is this evidence of nothing?

Think now
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shadron said:
An atomic explosion is just an explosion. The unique thing about a nuke is that it uses the strong nuclear force to create a shock and thermal wave, not the the shock and thermal wave result in light and heat, which drives your mushroom cloud. Any sufficiently large explosion will mimic the effects you mention, even one so mundane as flour blown into the air and ignited.

Try thinking now.
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I think you quoted the wrong person in your post.... :)
 
KingMerv00 said:
MaGZ,

Why didn't Hitler use the bomb? Why didn't he at least announce it?
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As is said earlier in this thread Hitler inferred he had such a weapon to his troops when he made the statement: "God forgive me for the last five minutes of the war."

According to the documentary Hitler indicated to Mussolini he had a weapon that could change the outcome of the war and Mussolini relayed this in a speech he gave to his supporters in northern Italy.
 
MaGZ said:
As is said earlier in this thread Hitler inferred he had such a weapon to his troops when he made the statement: "God forgive me for the last five minutes of the war."
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So he didn't announce it, he just "inferred" it.
According to the documentary Hitler indicated to Mussolini he had a weapon that could change the outcome of the war and Mussolini relayed this in a speech he gave to his supporters in northern Italy.
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Wonderful news...so how'd that turn out?

MaGZ is doing a great job at making Hitler look exceedingly stupid.
 
MaGZ said:
A recent Military Channel documentary "Mission for Mussolini" argues Germany first exploded the atomic bomb on a island in the Baltic Sea in October 1944 and again in central Germany in March 1945.

German scientists had the bomb first before the Americans.
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Hitler lost the bomb? Did his dog eat it?

Why does a neoNAZI what to support delusions from a TV show? You don't understand how the bomb works do you? Where is the island, lat and long please?

Secret weapon to change the war; The weapon was the V-2, but it did not help the moron Hitler.

On the way to school Hitler lost his nuke; Bugs Bunny took it.
 
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