Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

[twinstead]

How many years are truthers going to declare on relatively obscure internet forums that they are "winning" and "any day now" the truth will come out when in reality they are a tiny, insignificant cult that nobody important or who can actually DO anything about it cares about will it take for them to start questioning their beliefs?

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

How many years are truthers going to declare on relatively obscure internet forums that they are "winning" and "any day now" the truth will come out when in reality they are a tiny, insignificant cult that nobody important or who can actually DO anything about it cares about will it take for them to start questioning their beliefs?

When a Truther says they're "winning", it actually means the opposite!

 

[Grizzly Bear]

How many years are truthers going to declare on relatively obscure internet forums that they are "winning" and "any day now" the truth will come out when in reality they are a tiny, insignificant cult that nobody important or who can actually DO anything about it cares about will it take for them to start questioning their beliefs?

As the Kennedy & moon hoax CT's prove no matter how foolish some of these theories are, they will persist for decades to come.

 

[Telltale Tom]

I have heard a rumor that we have lost the support of one of our licensed architects in New York, so we will be down to eight. That is bad news for the ae911truth petition and a loss of 11%.

But we can still produce bulletins, articles and press releases with a very small number of qualified people, so I think we have a long way to go before we die.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

I have heard a rumor that we have lost the support of one of our licensed architects in New York, so we will be down to eight. That is bad news for the ae911truth petition and a loss of 11%.

But we can still produce bulletins, articles and press releases with a very small number of qualified people, so I think we have a long way to go before we die.

You've got a long way to go, because none of you Truthers have a peer reviewed paper from your own peers.

 

[Brainache]

I have heard a rumor that we have lost the support of one of our licensed architects in New York, so we will be down to eight. That is bad news for the ae911truth petition and a loss of 11%.

But we can still produce bulletins, articles and press releases with a very small number of qualified people, so I think we have a long way to go before we die.

Dr Adequate, is that you?

Hilarious.

How will they know when they have gone far enough?

Is there a signpost that says: "We've come a long way, now we must die..."?

 

[carlitos]

How will they know when they have gone far enough?

Is there a signpost that says: "We've come a long way, now we must die..."?

Maybe they could get their "charity" set up in time for the 10-year anniversary of the event whose victims they plan to help?

The Avery Foundation is still processing paperwork with the IRS. As soon as we can legally collect donations an announcement will be made.

The Avery Foundation is being created this year by Dylan Avery, writer and director of the Loose Change series of documentaries about the events surrounding the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on September 11th, 2001. The Avery Foundation will donate funds to well-established charities who care for the First Responders and victims of 9/11 as well as all their families, by providing them much needed financial assistance.

Highlighted portion posted in 2009, by the way. I waited until after lunar New Year to post this just in case Avery is of that sort.

ETA - I am thinking of setting up a charity for the 1755 Lisbon Earthquake. Thoughts?

 

[MikeW]

Undicisttembre have an interesting interview with Lenny Curcio, "a Lieutenant with the NYC Fire Department" on 9/11, who talks of fighting the fires in WTC7.

Here's a sample:

Undicisettembre: The next question is inevitably about how WTC7 collapsed. As you probably know, conspiracy theorists believe it was demolished with explosives and that the people in the streets didn't expect the collapse. I guess you can rule out this crazy idea once and for all, right?

Lenny Curcio: I can personally rule this out. From the time I arrived until the time I departed the scene on 9/11/01, I was working in front of and in the vicinity due west of 7 WTC. At the time of the WTC 7 collapse, the only “people in the streets” were emergency personnel within an established frozen zone. So, not only did we expect WTC 7 to collapse, we also watched it collapse and had to run for cover. There were no signs whatsoever of explosives or an explosion at that time. The final sounds were of a twisting metal structure (Whining) and then the sound of rubble free falling with earth shattering shock waves.
http://undicisettembre.blogspot.com/2010/02/courage-and-hard-facts-interview-with.html

 

[bill smith]

Undicisttembre have an interesting interview with Lenny Curcio, "a Lieutenant with the NYC Fire Department" on 9/11, who talks of fighting the fires in WTC7.

Here's a sample:

''....the extinguishment of 7 World Trade, the very building my sister had evacuated...''

I wonder if his sister was the woman who was evacuated from WTC7 who said flat out that the FDNY told her that ''they were going to bring the building down ' ?
(Video and audio available on request)

If this article is really from 15.02.2010 I am going to start thinking that somebody is really worried about the lack of pumping from the river and the non-use of fire extinguishers while they could still be used..

''Drafting water from the Hudson' he said didn't he ? What's that then- buckets ?

 

[bill smith]

As the Kennedy & moon hoax CT's prove no matter how foolish some of these theories are, they will persist for decades to come.

''Great lies'' such as 9/11 or Manmade Global Warming always leave traces of themselves behind even after they are utterly exposed.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

''Great lies'' such as 9/11 or Manmade Global Warming always leave traces of themselves behind even after they are utterly exposed.

How can either of those have been "utterly exposed" when you, yourself, hasn't presented any evidence on both of those subjects? Hmmmm, you're skating on thin ice!

 

[dafydd]

I have heard a rumor that we have lost the support of one of our licensed architects in New York, so we will be down to eight. That is bad news for the ae911truth petition and a loss of 11%.

But we can still produce bulletins, articles and press releases with a very small number of qualified people, so I think we have a long way to go before we die.

Lol,the Truther corpse has been rotting for a long time.

 

[BigAl]

I have heard a rumor that we have lost the support of one of our licensed architects in New York, so we will be down to eight. That is bad news for the ae911truth petition and a loss of 11%.

What Name? Just curious.

But we can still produce bulletins, articles and press releases with a very small number of qualified people, so I think we have a long way to go before we die.

All it would take is one person that speaks out in a professional forum and make sense to others in that area of expertise. So far, you've got zero. It's going on 9 years and nobody has come up with anything.

 

[bill smith]

All it would take is one person that speaks out in a professional forum and make sense to others in that area of expertise. So far, you've got zero. It's going on 9 years and nobody has come up with anything.

You can ask Richard Gage when he speaks at GZ the day after tomorrow.

 

[BigAl]

You can ask Richard Gage when he speaks at GZ the day after tomorrow.

Originally Posted by BigAl
All it would take is one person that speaks out in a professional forum and make sense to others in that area of expertise. So far, you've got zero. It's going on 9 years and nobody has come up with anything.

What professional forum would that be? Details, please.

 

[bill smith]

delete.

 

[beachnut]

How many years are truthers going to declare on relatively obscure internet forums that they are "winning" and "any day now" the truth will come out when in reality they are a tiny, insignificant cult that nobody important or who can actually DO anything about it cares about will it take for them to start questioning their beliefs?

Until they gain knowledge or leave earth on Comet Hale-Bopp.
Never is a possibility for some of the dolts spewing nonstop delusions.

 

[carlitos]

How many years are truthers going to declare on relatively obscure internet forums that they are "winning" and "any day now" the truth will come out when in reality they are a tiny, insignificant cult that nobody important or who can actually DO anything about it cares about will it take for them to start questioning their beliefs?

I just heard a guy on the radio saying that "any day now" Obama and Alan Greenspan will have their true identifies revealed. They are agents of Satan. Also, "any day now" Germany and the Catholic church are going to take over Afghanistan for the oil. "Any day now" seems to be a common theme. Just around the corner, you know.

 

[Telltale Tom]

All it would take is one person that speaks out in a professional forum and make sense to others in that area of expertise. So far, you've got zero. It's going on 9 years and nobody has come up with anything.

Look we have Richard Gage who has convinced many architects. He didnt need any tall building expertiese before becoming leader of ae911truth and he could see many things that most of the PE's couldnt see.

We have 80 or so (Big Al will tell you how many) structural and civil PE's from all over the states and several from other countries.

And we have lots of videos that have convinced at least 5,000 supporters from people from around the world.

 

[BigAl]

Look we have Richard Gage who has convinced many architects. He didnt need any tall building expertiese before becoming leader of ae911truth and he could see many things that most of the PE's couldnt see.

According to his own resume, Gage has no expertise in structural engineering or any other topic relevant to WTC and 9/11. He refuses to speak in front of any relevant professional group.

To date, Gage has never spoken in front of any relevant professional forum that we know of. You could prove me wrong by naming one.

Getting a booth at AIA isn't a professional forum or presentation.

It appears that, he refuses to speak anywhere where the questions are not censored or where follow-up questions are allowed.


And we have lots of videos that have convinced at least 5,000 supporters from people from around the world.

And none of these 5,000 "supporters" can explain in engineering terms why they think the NIST study is wrong in any way that man-made demolition or space beams would fix.