MaGZ's theory on 9/11

[MaGZ]

Is there any evidence at all for this?

Yes
http://www.historycommons.org/essay.jsp?article=essayaninterestingday

Atta prepared the explosives for the camera and sought help from a pharmacist for his burning hands. (see Early August 2001)

http://911review.org/JohnDoe2/Atta3.html

 

[beachnut]

Here is one of the missiles fired from one of the fighters flying SE to NW. This one likely fell into the Hudson River.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49NZWGWNGz8
I do not think anyone would mistake debris from the towers could be interpreted as a missile. Speed would be a determining factor.

A bird; good job being all a neoNAZI can be.

How fast does a missile go? Where is the sonic boom? Does being a neoNAZI mean you can't get anything right on 911?

You posted these idiotic lies years ago; did you forget?

 

[MaGZ]

Is there any evidence at all for this?

Also according to one of the articles in this link, Atta was practicing and presumably training others in Germany in making explosives from household chemicals.

"Atta was under surveillance by CIA agents while in Germany from January to May, 2000. They observed Atta shopping at drug stores and chemist's shops in the greater Frankfurt/Main area, where he purchased chemicals that could be used in making explosives."

http://www.summeroftruth.org/atta.html

 

[Macgyver1968]

Ok...so I'm straight on this...The missiles were fired at the planes, and missed, striking building 7...which started the fires. Right? For this to be possible, the fire in building 7 started at the same time as the towers. right?

So why don't we see smoke from building 7? Why didn't the FDNY, you know...those dudes that were right next door...the guys looking for fire..none of them noticed building 7 on fire until after the first tower collapsed? You do realize how silly this is..right?

 

[Dog Town]

You do realize how silly this is..right?

It's right up there with the video evidence, his whole premise is based upon. If there is one, that is? Birds=Missiles in magz world!

 

[Thunder]

saying WTC 7 was on fire before any of the towers collapsed, is simply trolling.

nothing more...nothing less.

 

[Unsecured Coins]

no, see, the missile got fired, right, and went into the hudson, and when MaGZ brought it up, the gubmint knew that the secret was out, so they staged some plande landing in the hudon so they could get it out at the same time as the plane without anyone noticing.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Yes
http://www.historycommons.org/essay.jsp?article=essayaninterestingday

This is your evidence?

REALLY?

My first foray into this whole 9/11 conspiracy crap was to write a response to this train wreck of an article for Skeptic Report back in 2004.

http://skepticreport.com/sr/?p=210

 

[Scott Sommers]

i wanna know if MaGZ REALLY believes this stuff, or is just making fun of 9-11 truth.

That's what I thought. when i first read this, I couldn't believe anyone would really post this. But then, I've now heard the most bizarre things I could image come from probably healthy people all so they could continue to believe this 911 Truth crap. So you never know. It might be real.

 

[MaGZ]

Ok...so I'm straight on this...The missiles were fired at the planes, and missed, striking building 7...which started the fires. Right? For this to be possible, the fire in building 7 started at the same time as the towers. right?

http://www.hogville.com/wtc/05.towers.burning.jpg

So why don't we see smoke from building 7? Why didn't the FDNY, you know...those dudes that were right next door...the guys looking for fire..none of them noticed building 7 on fire until after the first tower collapsed? You do realize how silly this is..right?

The Naudet documentary has the white smoke from the missile explosion in their film. It is seen from two locations. One cameraman is at the corner of Vesey and Church and films the second plane crashing into WTC 2--then there is a cut in the film--and the cameraman runs for his live north on Church. He had also just witnessed the missile strike at WTC 7 which is edited out later. After a block away he turns his camera back toward Ground Zero and films the huge white smoke cloud from the missile strike. The smoke cloud from the plane crash into WTC 2 is black.

The other brother is in the lobby of WTC 1 and films the court area when WTC 2 is hit. Debris falls from above and interestingly the white smoke from the missile strike drifts from WTC 7 towards WTC 2 in a southwardly direction indicating an explosion at WTC 7.

 

[MaGZ]

Ok...so I'm straight on this...The missiles were fired at the planes, and missed, striking building 7...which started the fires. Right? For this to be possible, the fire in building 7 started at the same time as the towers. right?

http://www.hogville.com/wtc/05.towers.burning.jpg

So why don't we see smoke from building 7? Why didn't the FDNY, you know...those dudes that were right next door...the guys looking for fire..none of them noticed building 7 on fire until after the first tower collapsed? You do realize how silly this is..right?

The missile strike on WTC 7 did not immediately create a roaring fire. The fire is local only on one floor around the 12th or 14th floor. Here is a link from NJ showing a room size fire in WTC 7.

http://www.amanzafar.com/WTC/index.shtm

 

[Macgyver1968]

The missile strike on WTC 7 did not immediately create a roaring fire. The fire is local only on one floor around the 12th or 14th floor. Here is a link from NJ showing a room size fire in WTC 7.

http://www.amanzafar.com/WTC/index.shtm

Please point to the exact image...there are a bunch of photos on that link, and I can't tell which one you are talking about.

People were still in building 7 when the planes hit. Don't you think someone would have reported the explosion? Air to air missiles carry only a 25 pound fragmentation warhead...but it still would have made a really loud bang. No one in the building reported hearing this sound or reported a fire...why is that? WTC 7 was equipped with a sprinkler system. At the time of the plane's impact, the water mains were still intact. If a missile hit at that time and started a fire, the sprinklers would have activated and put the fire out. Your's is the only 9/11 hypothesis that doesn't even follow the timeline of events of 9/11. It's just pure sillyness.

 

[Thunder]

fascinating. a stinger missile flew THROUGH other buildings, and impacted the WTC on the 14th floor.

and the fire had NO smoke...for hours.

indeed. Nazi logic.

 

[Macgyver1968]

Question for Tri

Tri, or anyone else...at what time was building 7 evacuated? Was it evacuated before or after the collapse?

 

[Macgyver1968]

fascinating. a missile flew THROUGH other buildings, and impacted the WTC on the 14th floor.

and the fire had NO smoke...for hours.

indeed. Nazi logic.

Just to be nit-picky...a stinger is a man-portable ground to air missile....I believe he is proposing that an Aim 9 was used.

 

[Sam.I.Am]

The WTC 7 evacuation started within a few minutes of the second airplane hitting WTC 2. The only questions remaining about that was whether OEM evacuated at that time or later. The 9/11 CR put it at about 9:30 or so and NIST put it at about 9:45 or so but one or two OEM employees said it was at the same time as everyone else in the building.

(the reports have a more exact timeline on it but I'm feeling too lazy to dig it up right now).

 

[funk de fino]

Here is one of the missiles fired from one of the fighters flying SE to NW. This one likely fell into the Hudson River.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49NZWGWNGz8
I do not think anyone would mistake debris from the towers could be interpreted as a missile. Speed would be a determining factor.

You have no idea how fast these AtoA missile travel do you?

Try filming something at Mach 2.5. The warheard is too small to do what you say and it would not have hit a building, thats now how they work.

Look up target detector section and how the warhead is initiated.

You seem to keep running from Mike Catalano's testimony? Why is that?

 

[MaGZ]

Please point to the exact image...there are a bunch of photos on that link, and I can't tell which one you are talking about.

People were still in building 7 when the planes hit. Don't you think someone would have reported the explosion? Air to air missiles carry only a 25 pound fragmentation warhead...but it still would have made a really loud bang. No one in the building reported hearing this sound or reported a fire...why is that? WTC 7 was equipped with a sprinkler system. At the time of the plane's impact, the water mains were still intact. If a missile hit at that time and started a fire, the sprinklers would have activated and put the fire out. Your's is the only 9/11 hypothesis that doesn't even follow the timeline of events of 9/11. It's just pure sillyness.

Barry Jennings and Michael Hess were in the stairwell of WTC 7 when the missile hit causing the oil-filled transformers to explode and the stairs to collapse.

 

[funk de fino]

The missile strike on WTC 7 did not immediately create a roaring fire. The fire is local only on one floor around the 12th or 14th floor. Here is a link from NJ showing a room size fire in WTC 7.

http://www.amanzafar.com/WTC/index.shtm

No, they do not show that.

 

[funk de fino]

Barry Jennings and Michael Hess were in the stairwell of WTC 7 when the missile hit causing the oil-filled transformers to explode and the stairs to collapse.

Mike Catalano debunks this and your whole story.