Things you like about Sarah Palin

Whiplash said:
I don't particularily like or dislike her. I guess I feel sorry for her. Because I feel that many of the attacks made on her (especially the personal **** about her and her family) is just out of line.
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Fair enough.

So I can't help but point out when I feel I'm seeing hypocrisy or inconsistency in what people are saying and how they are acting with regards to her.
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That's not a reason to defend someone. That's a reason to attack someone. The Palin attacks could be pefectly valid AND hypocritical.

I'm inclined to believe that all the stuff about "shes our dream candidate, I hope she runs, it'll ensure us an Obama victory" is actually just bluster that is for their own benefit, not for anyone else. They seek to convince themselves of that. My reasoning? If they really believed what they were saying, they wouldn't also bend over backwards to insult and bring her down every single chance they can get. You don't bother with destroying someone who is absolutely no threat.
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Guess who I thought of when I said this:

KingMerv00 said:
...Sometimes they say liberals insult her because they fear her.
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:)
 
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I honestly like her schtick about being a regular, outside-the-Beltway person. I think we need more of those citizen-politicians to displace our overfed, overporked Beltway class.

Now obviously a lot of people here don't believe that she is genuine. That's fine, but nobody can deny that she shook things up and may still do so.
 
Sporanox said:
I honestly like her schtick about being a regular, outside-the-Beltway person. I think we need more of those citizen-politicians to displace our overfed, overporked Beltway class.

Now obviously a lot of people here don't believe that she is genuine. That's fine, but nobody can deny that she shook things up and may still do so.
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You are the first person to say something nice about her. Good for you.

Personally, I believe she thinks she's "one of us". Her delievery is too packaged though. Politics warps all messages I suppose.
 
I personally loathe her. I'm scared to death that there are so many people in the US right now that support her. I've been reading some neo-Gramscians these days and Gramsci had this theory that a declining hegemon or a hegemonic transition would give open the door to 'great man' type fanatical demagogues.

Anyways, it's clear why people like her.

They identify with what they see as an embodiment of the American ideal of individualism and self-reliance. She also strikes a chord with the neo-conservative notion of restoring America's greatness through traditional values (e.g. religious values) and the embrace of American exceptionalism.
 
Less corrupt that the previous lot of Alaskan politicians.
 
She will be the Russians problem before too much longer, if out resident nutjob 9/11 Investigator's prediction is right:

I predicted that the US is going to balkanize as a consequence of its insane immigration policies and that during the following chaos European troops are going to be needed to restore order and help their Euro-American kinsmen (with their landgrab).

Alaska is going back to it's original owner: Russia.
The South-West likewise to Mexico
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And here the full crazy rant:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148049&page=82
 
KingMerv00 said:
Connecting with people isn't automatically a compliment. Charles Manson connected with people. Labeling yourself a "teabagger" was covered in my OP:
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Well I meant it as a positive attribute, that a political figure can connect with their chosen constituency is a very necessary ability for someone wanting to get their political message across.
 
Darat said:
Well I meant it as a positive attribute, that a political figure can connect with their chosen constituency is a very necessary ability for someone wanting to get their political message across.
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That's not hard in a two party system.




Palin: "I'm against abor..."

*Standing ovation*
 
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Whiplash said:
I don't particularily like or dislike her. I guess I feel sorry for her. Because I feel that many of the attacks made on her (especially the personal **** about her and her family) is just out of line.
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I completely agree that the stuff attacking her family is way out of line. Unless it has a direct bearing on performance, reliability or policy, family should be left out of it. All family.

Whiplash said:
And I can't help but marvel at the way the left is so up in arms about her, while also stating loudly that they want her to run and think it assures them victory. For me, it's more about observing the bizarre manner in which people think and react to her.

So I can't help but point out when I feel I'm seeing hypocrisy or inconsistency in what people are saying and how they are acting with regards to her. I'm inclined to believe that all the stuff about "shes our dream candidate, I hope she runs, it'll ensure us an Obama victory" is actually just bluster that is for their own benefit, not for anyone else. They seek to convince themselves of that. My reasoning? If they really believed what they were saying, they wouldn't also bend over backwards to insult and bring her down every single chance they can get. You don't bother with destroying someone who is absolutely no threat.

How do I feel about the idea that someone like her could be a legitimate threat? I don't know what to think. It's not like the American people have a track record of always voting for the most intelligent, sophisticated and best possible candidate for the job. I can't rule her out as legitimate, no matter how much everyone on the left wants to just handwave her away in such a manner.
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Personally, I'm damn scared AND amused by her. Why? Well I'm amused by her because her understanding and performance has been laughably poor. She's ignorant of current events and her religious fervour and backwards social beliefs (in my opinion, of course) as well as utterly pathetic understanding of other nations (UK death panels anyone?) are amusing to me. It's insane that someone like that got elected.

I'm scared because I think there is a chance, albeit a slim one, that she will actually get elected. This terrifies me because I think that her politics are....distasteful in some cases, and just unfavourable in others, but her actual grasp of world events is so poor that she may accidentally ruin diplomatic ties with nations simply because she doesn't know what she's meant to do. I'm not joking, I genuinely believe she could be that ignorant.

I never thought Bush was the brightest bulb in the box. Let's face it, I thought he was stupid, but I also thought he was cunning and shrewd. He wasn't a total waste of time because he had some damn useful qualities in a leader, and what he lacked he bolstered using his cabinet. I don't think Palin has got ANY favourable characteristics aside from her apparent "charm".

I think it's perfectly possible for that apparent disconnect. I really do both find her amusing and scary.
 
I like the fact that she epitomizes what Americans consider so dear...

That any US Citizen, no matter how stupid, boring, backwards, cunning, fame craving, has a chance to become POTUS.

TAM;)
 
I don't defend her, so you can take my observations with a grain of salt, but it's apparent (Sword of Truth even said so) that many conservatives don't like her politics at all, but defend her, nevertheless.

One word: Partisanship.

"Oh, no! The evil librul is attacking a conservative! Must defend!"

"Hey, O'Reilly's a conservative, I can't let him criticize Al Sharpton! Must defend!"
 
KingMerv00 said:
I should clarify why I started this thread. I'm trying to understand the apparent need to defend her so vigourously and yet not having anything good to say about her. Is it because of you feel bad for her?
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Is there anyone defending her?

I think even people here on JREF who share *some* of her political beliefs struggle to explain away or treat as irrelevant many of her social and religious attitudes.

ETA: The only thing I have any respect at all for about Palin is that she is a distance runner.
 
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MarkCorrigan said:
I completely agree that the stuff attacking her family is way out of line. Unless it has a direct bearing on performance, reliability or policy, family should be left out of it. All family.
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Fair enough. So were you opposed to Bill Clinton's impeachment?
 
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