Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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DOC said:
He would be wrong if he said there was "only" 1 angel. But the bible doesn't say there was "only" 1. So there is no contradiction
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What a surprise, the thread gets bumped when it's gone quiet. DOC must have some evidence at last, or at least something which has not been comprehensively debunked. Oh, wait, he doesn't.
 
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DOC said:
He would be wrong if he said there was "only" 1 angel. But the bible doesn't say there was "only" 1. So there is no contradiction
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How old are you Doc? No matter. You still believe in angels. Do you also still believe in Santa Clause? :p
 
paximperium said:
Using DOC's "law on non-contradiction"(that he so loves to trot out); both accounts can't be right. So at least one of them must be wrong.
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One of them would be wrong if one account said there was "only" one angel which is not the case.

If I told someone there is a pencil in the drawer. And there are 2 pencils in the drawer my statement would not be false. But if I said there is "only" one pencil in the drawer my statement would be false. There is no contradiction in the bible story regarding the angels- only different accounts.
 
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DOC said:
One of them would be wrong if one account said there was "only" one angel which is not the case.

If I told someone there is a pencil in the drawer. And there is 2 pencils in the drawer my statement would not be false. But if I said there is "only" one pencil in the drawer my statement would be false. There is no contradiction in the bible story regarding the angels- only different accounts.
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Except these are not pencils they are angels. What evidence (remember 'evidence' the subject of the thread) do you have that angels exist and that 1 or 2 of them were 2000 years ago found in in a cave?
 
Hokulele said:
How exactly would a person miss seeing a frickin' angel?
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Maybe the witness didn't miss him, but only chose to write about the angel that specifically talked to them, and because the other angel was 20 feet away.

Suppose I go to a ball game and a friend from high school that I haven't seen in 20 years comes up to me and starts talking to me. He tells me he is with another guy from our same class. The other guy which I didn't know that well is 30 feet away and I wave to him.

Now later that night I might write in my diary that I saw a guy I knew in high school even though I actually saw two.
 
Amusing how after having his last "argument" completely shredded, he had to dredge up some other red herring.
DOC said:
One of them would be wrong if one account said there was "only" one angel which is not the case.

If I told someone there is a pencil in the drawer. And there is 2 pencils in the drawer my statement would not be false. But if I said there is "only" one pencil in the drawer my statement would be false. There is no contradiction in the bible story regarding the angels- only different accounts.
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No. An omission still means one of the accounts is incomplete and is hence WRONG.

Therefore using DOC's own logic, they can't both be right and therefore one of the accounts must be wrong.
 
DOC said:
Maybe the witness didn't miss him, but only chose to write about the angel that specifically talked to them, and because the other angel was 20 feet away.

Suppose I go to a ball game and a friend from high school that I haven't seen in 20 years comes up to me and starts talking to me. He tells me he is with another guy from our same class. The other guy which I didn't know that well is 30 feet away and I wave to him.

Now later that night I might write in my diary that I saw a guy I knew in high school even though I actually saw two.
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and if team A beat team B 30 - 10. Would you go back and say team A scored 7 and team B 10?

I note that you are still not providing any evidence that there were any angels.
 
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DOC said:
Maybe the witness didn't miss him, but only chose to write about the angel that specifically talked to them, and because the other angel was 20 feet away.
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Or maybe they made it up? Or maybe giant dinosaurs jumped from Mount Rushmore and kicked one of them in the face leading to amnesia? I can make up whatever nonsense to.
Suppose I go to a ball game and a friend from high school that I haven't seen in 20 years comes up to me and starts talking to me. He tells me he is with another guy from our same class. The other guy which I didn't know that well is 30 feet away and I wave to him.

Now later that night I might write in my diary that I saw a guy I knew in high school even though I actually saw two.
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So your diary is incomplete and therefore your description is incomplete and hence WRONG compared to someone who did write about this other guy.
Bravo DOC. You're showing how much error and contradictions are in your Bible.
 
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DOC said:
Angels are mentioned over 100 times in the OT and over 150 times in the NT. Christ also mentions angels. That's good enough for me. If not for you so be it.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-acb/acb-t005.html
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Doc, you are supposed to be providing evidence the biblical authors told the truth, Simply repeating their stories is not evidence.

You have been told this at least 100 times in this thread. You need to provide proper evidence that angels exist or Akhenaten will post his graphic again.

Until then the only logical conclusion is that there is not a jot of evidence that the new Testament writers told the truth when they were reported to have said that there was one or perhaps two angels in an empty cave.
 
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DOC said:
Obviously they must have felt that using those 4 gospels presented a fuller more informative account of the life of Christ and this was more important to do then worry about some minor detaills that appear to contradict.
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Dude, any time you have to use the phrase 'obviously they must have...', you're really saying 'there is no evidence that they...'

In a thread about evidence, there is no 'obvious' or 'clearly', just facts.

Care to present some?
 
DOC said:
Angels are mentioned over 100 times in the OT and over 150 times in the NT. Christ also mentions angels. That's good enough for me. If not for you so be it.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-acb/acb-t005.html
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The bible mentions talking animals, 175 year old people, dividing seas, dragons, living in a whale, global floods, virgin births, 10 feet tall men, unicorns, devils and walking on water. We know this is good enough for you but where is the real evidence?
 
Lothian said:
The bible mentions talking animals, 800 year old people, dividing seas, dragons, living in a whale, global floods, virgin births, 10 feet tall men, unicorns, devils and walking on water. We know this is good enough for you but where is the real evidence?
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Fixed an error for you.
 
DOC said:
One of them would be wrong if one account said there was "only" one angel which is not the case.

If I told someone there is a pencil in the drawer. And there are 2 pencils in the drawer my statement would not be false. But if I said there is "only" one pencil in the drawer my statement would be false. There is no contradiction in the bible story regarding the angels- only different accounts.
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Story being the operative word Doc.Angels do not exist,leastways I have never seen any evidence of their existence.Do you have any? Apart from stories in the bible?
 
DOC said:
Angels are mentioned over 100 times in the OT and over 150 times in the NT. Christ also mentions angels. That's good enough for me. If not for you so be it.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-acb/acb-t005.html
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Mmm, Orcs are mentioned several hundred times in "The Lord of the Rings", so we can likewise conclude that orcs are real, yes?

ETA: Exacly how many times must something be mentioned in the Bible before you hold it true?

Hans
 
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DOC said:
That's not a logical statement.
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Teh irony! It burnnnnnzzzzzzzzz!!11!!

DOC, it seems that - in keeping with your delusions - you have your own bizarre interpretation of what constitutes logic... and its NOT relevant

What is relevant is "evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth"

You got any?
 
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