Split Thread 'Nose-out' footage

[W.D.Clinger]

The fact of the flying pigs "bunker-buster " nose surviving both entrance and exit through the structural steel exteriors of the WTC tower betrays the plot.
Technologically speaking the flying pig of the early 19 th. century was the great grandaddy of modern flying pigs --21 st century CRUISE MISSILES.

At last, someone has stated a hypothesis with real meat to it, that we can sink our teeth into.

 

[ElMondoHummus]

What.... the hell....... was that?

I think some AI bot got loose on Fonebone's computer and somehow did a text dump into a browser.

 

[Hokulele]

Odd, the first thing that brought to mind was pigging pipeline.

Just goes to show...

 

[Grizzly Bear]

I think some AI bot got loose on Fonebone's computer and somehow did a text dump into a browser.

I thought it was a 4chan skit..

 

[MIKILLINI]

Fonebone < The "nose-out" videos are genuine and a valuable clue as to the identity of the flying object
disguised as a jumbo jet that struck the WTC 2 south tower.
Correctly identify the flying object will instantly indentify the
as yet unknown conspiritors in this murderous plot against America
and her inalienable liberties
The flying object was real but was NOT a Boeing 767 Jumbo jet or a CGI illusion concocted by
Hollywoodesque miscreants.
The screaming jet engine powered flying object that penetrated the WTC 2
south wall was a 21 st. century " flying pig " cleverly concealed inside of
the gut of a hollowed out miniature scale model of a Boeing 767 jumbo jet
utilized to cloak the missile.
The flying pig's nose passed completely through the steel box column exterior
and exited the WTC 2tower at the North-East bevel before the flying pig's payload of advanced blast incindiary munitions was ignited.
The mimiature turbo-fan jet engine that propelled the flying pig cloaked as a
miniature "jumbojet" was found at the corner of Broadway and Murray st.
Compare this miniature turbo-fan jet engine to the WTC 1 flying pig sun bathing
in front of grown men at the Staten Island lanffill. Folding chair holding barricate tape
scales the engine size.

The fact of the flying pigs "bunker-buster " nose surviving both entrance and exit through the structural
steel exteriors of the WTC tower betrays the plot.
Technologically speaking the flying pig of the early 19 th. century was the great grandaddy
of modern flying pigs --21 st century CRUISE MISSILES.

Hmm, I wonder how much consideration Bill and Bardamu will give this one.

 

[Fonebone]

Odd, the first thing that brought to mind was pigging pipeline.

Just goes to show...

Fonebone < Been sniffing those pipeline condensates ?
The methyl PolyChlorinated bi-Phenols ( PCBs ) affects your thinking skills - Bic ?

--Instinct has a lucidity that surpasses wisdom . __Hubbard

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Fonebone < Been sniffing those pipeline condensates ?
The methyl PolyChlorinated bi-Phenols ( PCBs ) affects your thinking skills - Bic ?

--Instinct has a lucidity that surpasses wisdom . __Hubbard

Pillory? Are you sock puppeting?

 

[Fonebone]

Hmm, I wonder how much consideration Bill and Bardamu will give this one.

Fonebone < Fess-up Mikillini , How much thought did you give " this one " ?

 

[MIKILLINI]

Fonebone < Fess-up Mikillini , How much thought did you give " this one " ?

My funny bone caused me pause.

 

[Fonebone]

/Ignore

-Fonebone < The only proven way to remain an ignoramus eh !

Ignorance is not so bad as deception __epigram

 

[johnny karate]

Wait... is this guy actually referring to himself in the third-person in his own posts?

 

[tsig]

Wait... is this guy actually referring to himself in the third-person in his own posts?

tsig says yes>must be accurate since I always agree with myself

 

[bardamu]

Hmm, I wonder how much consideration Bill and Bardamu will give this one.

For starters, I'd want to know if the flying pig had fuel in its outboard tank.

 

[TruthersLie]

For starters, I'd want to know if the flying pig had fuel in its outboard tank.

blah blah blah... handwave noted.

Still waiting to see what parts of "it is a simplifed model" that you don't understand.

You really should take a research methods course, experimental design course, or even some introduction to engineering courses...

 

[bill smith]

For starters, I'd want to know if the flying pig had fuel in its outboard tank.

One thing did srike me through. The scale. Just think the fuselage was almost 18 feet tall snd the gap between the concrete floors was just over 12 feet. So the fuselage was half as big again. That seems just plain impossible.

Intelligent debunker comments welcome.

 

[bardamu]

One thing did srike me through. The scale. Just think the fuselage was almost 18 feet tall snd the gap between the concrete floors was just over 12 feet. So the fuselage was half as big again. That seems just plain impossible.

NIST admit that the fuselage had to pass through at least one concrete floor and maybe two, depending exactly where the nose hit the wall.

Even worse, a section of the right wing of flight 11 that was carrying no fuel had to cut through a spandrel and a concrete floor, according to NIST's diagram of observed damage on page lxxxvi of NCSTAR 1-2B.

 

[bill smith]

NIST admit that the fuselage had to pass through at least one concrete floor and maybe two, depending exactly where the nose hit the wall.

Even worse, a section of the right wing of flight 11 that was carrying no fuel had to cut through a spandrel and a concrete floor, according to NIST's diagram of observed damage on page lxxxvi of NCSTAR 1-2B.

It must be possible to measure the fuselage against the known size of the windows by freezing the video at the point of contact. If the comparison should turn out to be grossly wrong that would be instant proof in one swoop of a conspiracy on 9/11.

 

[bardamu]

Well. For once twinstead is speechless.

Have you run out of appeals to authority?

 

[twinstead]

Have you run out of appeals to authority?

Yea. They are out somewhere having a beer with your arguments from ignorant incredulity, and they're not answering their cellphone.

 

[bardamu]

Good! You're finally thinking! Now, think all the way to the conclusion: To what degree does the information you provided refine the model? Is the momentum changed in a way that changes the conclusion i.e. results in such lessened momentum that the columns survive? You said "the momentum will be less than estimated". Fine. How much less?

When you plug your "refinements" into the model, how much does it change the momentum?

Amount of fuel in outboard tanks = 0.00 gallons

Momentum of fuel hitting corresponding columns = 0.00 lbf-s

Pressure = 0.00 psi

Impulse = 0.00 lbf-s

Damage = None

The point of that section was NOT to "show that momentum from the plane was not needed".

There was absolutely NOTHING in that presentation that was "supposed to show that momentum from the plane was not needed."

Please explain how you think "from the fuel alone" entails "including the plane" in the following sentence.

We conclude that momentum from the fuel alone is enough to destroy the steel columns.

Showing that the fuel alone is sufficient is NOT the same as showing that the plane alone would NOT penetrate.

It's been shown that the fuel alone is not sufficient. The model should be scrapped and a new one built to show that the plane alone will penetrate.

Still waiting to see what parts of "it is a simplified model" that you don't understand.

I don't understand why NIST can simplify the model so that all the fuel is in the inboard tanks, while R Mackey can simplify the model so that the fuel is spread over both tanks. The two simplified models contradict each other.