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Brainster Versus Dylan Avery Debate September 10, 2009

bill smith said:
I am not resposive to that particular question. As you say it was clear that Dylan had prevailed in the debate which is quite impressive considering that he was up against a whole coven of debunkers.

I just wanted to inject a note of reality into the grooming session that was going on on the thread. No sense in allowing people to continue manufacturing an illusion.
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Nominated!


I must say, Bill, your performance art these many months has been simply inspired, not to say, creepily obsessive.
 
Brainster said:
Nope, there was one freight elevator in each building that was able to go from the lowest basement to the top floor. So count yourself undestroyed!

ETA: I see this point was already made. So I'll point out that I seem to remember the operators who ran those two elevators were a married couple.
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But how many elevators were able to go to the lowest basement. I sincerely doubt that it was only one. After all he elevator shafts probably ran from the top to the bottom of the bulldings.
 
Good job (as usual) Pat.

I think Dylan Avery wishes he had never gotten involve in the entire thing, but now feels it is his only claim to fame, so he clings on.

TAM:)
 
Funny that Aldo the Buffet Slayer came waddling into that thread to try to protect Dylan, considering how often they ripped him on their Tree Fort site.

Tri, Pathetic that JFK and Lin banned you after seven posts. They just proved that are complete and utter cowards.

But old Lin will stick up for the hoaxster Alex, though.

A gaggle of craven morans.
 
knife fight colobus said:
Officially two different Truthers did not know of the NIST report. They were still talking about the pancake theory and how wtc 7 wasn't in the 911CR and when ever someone did tell me who they thought was behind it they said it was Israel.
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This was my problem. This is why I didn't convert until last month. I was completely out of date on my nonsense. I was convinced back in 2005-2006 and was ironclad since then. Knowing that anything but the "truth" is a lie, I couldn't stomach any debunker's or opposing viewpoints. I feel like I wasted 3 years of my life in some deranged cult. It's like a peninsula that drifts off to sea and becomes an isolated island that is so far from the mainland that the culture is barely recognizable anymore (sorry for the lame analogy lol).

Thank you everyone who kept up the fight and thought it was worth it to debunk these idiots. Otherwise, I may still be one of them!
 
knife fight colobus said:
ARGH! I had a feeling she was wrong. But I personally didn't know and I just didn't want to brush it off as not being true or as her just lying, that is too much of a Truther thing to do when being proved wrong.

Dang it, I will never ever see her again, either.
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You sure? Did you happy to catch the colour of her shoes? ;)
 
mythstifieD said:
Thank you everyone who kept up the fight and thought it was worth it to debunk these idiots. Otherwise, I may still be one of them!
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You can take a man out of rationality, but sometimes you can't take the rationality out of a man.
 
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In addition to the freight elevators there was the tourist elevator that went directly from the lobby to Windows Over The World.
 
Brainster said:
Nope, there was one freight elevator in each building that was able to go from the lowest basement to the top floor. So count yourself undestroyed!

ETA: I see this point was already made. So I'll point out that I seem to remember the operators who ran those two elevators were a married couple.
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I have been in that elevator before. It is a rather long ride to the top. I thought there was an elevator that did that, but I just couldn't remember for the life of me. We would often use it to remove a patient from higher floors. And yes, I do believe it was a couple that ran it, but again, it has been so long.
 
I just started listening to this and it's at the point where Pat makes the accusation that Dylan implies the people on 77 were in on it.

Then they get into the percentage of people on the planes that day and Dylan points out that it was about 30% for all four planes. Pat comes back with something to the effect that this was not unusual because when looked back over the last three months all four flights at one point had less then 30% capacity.

All four on the same day?
 
Now I'm at the part where this Breakenridge is pretty much claiming that the 9/11 commission was insignificant and doesn't matter even if it's garbage. Interesting.
 
WUBRINY63 said:
It's significant to this thread because Pat brought it up in the debate. If it's insignificant as a whole then why did Pat bring it up? Maybe you should ask him.
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Pat didn't bring it up, Dylan did. The fact (and the reason Pat addressed it) is that it's insignificant because the airlines had been experiencing notable drops in passengers for months prior to the attacks. There is nothing in the number of passengers that implies one way or the other toward the attacks being anything than what is normally assumed-- four hijackings with intent to crash the planes into buildings.
 
Wow. They ask Dylan why he brings up the commission and he answers them (reading from the commissions website no less) and all they want to do is bring up the FBI. The same FBI that followed Steven Hatfield around for 7 years on the Anthrax case only to claim in the end that it was another lone scientist who had killed himself just when they were finally going to move in.

So is all the information from the FBI investigation into 9/11 released? Isn't this the same FBI that called some of their agents off before 9/11 with threats of dismissal? So 9/11 according to Pat wasn't an inside job but the investigation might have been. Perfect.
 
Yes he did. KSM bragged about his role in planning the 9/11 attacks. He bragged. I wonder if scored with the Jihad ladies using that line.
 
Now I'm at the part where Breckenridge tries to use Greening to Debunk Jones. Classic. Breckenridge should come here and see how Greening was treated by the debunkers. And how exactly Greening thought about the debunkers here.
 
WUBRINY63 said:
Wow. They ask Dylan why he brings up the commission and he answers them (reading from the commissions website no less) and all they want to do is bring up the FBI. The same FBI that followed Steven Hatfield around for 7 years on the Anthrax case only to claim in the end that it was another lone scientist who had killed himself just when they were finally going to move in.

So is all the information from the FBI investigation into 9/11 released? Isn't this the same FBI that called some of their agents off before 9/11 with threats of dismissal? So 9/11 according to Pat wasn't an inside job but the investigation might have been. Perfect.
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Why don't you get off your arse and file FOIA requests and tell us what your hard work produces? Why so lazy?
 
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