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Split Thread WTC7 is a problem for the 9/11 official story

bill smith said:
These guys are not subtle Red. They go in for overkill. Look at Iraq.

It was all about 'shock nd awe' and turning the American people into putty. You figuratively lined up to sign the 'Patrriot Act' tht essentally set in motion a string of legislation that has turned you into slaves.You just don't know it yet.
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Jesus, talk about going in for the overkill, your outlandish, comical "theories" are just that.
 
RedIbis said:
I almost entirely disagree. Whereas an Inside Job might have been planned down to the last detail, that doesn't mean it went according to plan. There are innumerable variables at work.

Secondly, if you're talking about the psychological impact, that was gained by the second strike, a third WTC strike would not have added as much as you're suggesting.

I don't think we'll ever know what the true target for Flight 93 was.
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Bump for Red (since you are here and posting)

Please provide that ONE journal article from ANY structural engineering group ANYWHERE in the world which says that NIST is wrong.

You are making the claim that they have NO evidence, so finding articles in peer reviewed structural engineering journals should be EASY.
 
twinstead said:
Jesus, talk about going in for the overkill, your outlandish, comical "theories" are just that.
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Twinstead, you should remember that our rights are not important untl you need them. Check it out---see if they are still there. Be a concerned citizen.
 
lapman said:
I checked. They are all there.
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Okay. But now check whether hose rights can be overridden.
A right that can be overridden is not a right. ALL your rights can now be overriden wthout recourse to the courts. A faceless functionary only has to say that you are an 'enemy combatant' and you can be beaten within an inch of your life, imprisoned forever....you know some of the rest or can imagine it.
 
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bill smith said:
Does WTC7 resemble the controlled demolition shown in the video below ? If not, what significant differences do you see ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73qK4j32iuo
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No loud booms in the WTC 7 one. Plus, you all forgot the Penthouse in the WTC7. I didn't see many fires in the CD one, but I did in WTC 7. I also did not see the plumes of high-velocity smoke from WTC 7. Should I go on Bill?? I am sure, since I am late to this beating, that this has been discussed already.
 
bill smith said:
Okay. But now check whthert hose rights can be overridden.
A right that can be overridden is not a right. ALL your rights can now be overriden wthout recourse to the courts. A faceless functionary only has to say that you are an 'enemy combatant' and you can be beaten within an inch of your life, imprisoned forever....you know some of the rest or can imagine it.
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ok so youre saying
on a whim the US govt can walk into my house and cart me away without a warrant and without provocation just because they label me an "enemy combatant"
which in itself makes no sense cause i wasnt in combat
 
bill smith said:
There were lots of demolition people at WTC7. As regards the noise, I believe that the only explosives really used there were the ones used to weaken he structure pre-demolition that Barry Jennings and Michael Hess reported.

For he rest I think the building was brought down by using a 'melt' technique rather than a 'blast' one..
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You call it melt, we educated people call is thermal expansion from the gigantic fires. But hey, call it what you want.
 
Perhaps WTC7 is a problem for the 9/11 conspiracy theory.
The theory that this one was also demolished makes no sense.
 
Justin39640 said:
ok so youre saying
on a whim the US govt can walk into my house and cart me away without a warrant and without provocation just because they label me an "enemy combatant"
which in itself makes no sense cause i wasnt in combat
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Justin, under current American Law you can be snatched from your bed this very night at 5am on the orders of some faceless person in some government department. our family will be gagged. Unable to speak of it under penalty of the law. You can be imprisoned forever and waternoarded 180 times in a single month, lust like KSM because you fall under he exact same law if they call you an 'enemy combatant'.
You guys should really check this stuff out in yur own personal interest.
 
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RedIbis said:
Without relying on speculation what evidence supports NIST's WTC 7 collapse hypothesis?
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The fact that I saw the huge roaring fires in WTC 7. I saw the bulge in the building with my own two eyes, and knew IMMEADIATLY that it would fall.

Is that good enough?? Personal eyewitness testimony??
 
bill smith said:
justin, under current americn law you can be snatched from your bed this very night at 5am on the orders of some faceless person in some government department. Our family will be gagged. Unable to speak of it under penalty of the law. You can be imprisoned forever and waternoarded 180 times in a single month, lust like ksm because you fall under he exact same law if they call you an 'enemy combatant'.
You guys should really check this stuff out in yur own personal interest.
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lmaoooooo!!!
 
triforcharity said:
The fact that I saw the huge roaring fires in WTC 7. I saw the bulge in the building with my own two eyes, and knew IMMEADIATLY that it would fall.

Is that good enough?? Personal eyewitness testimony??
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Where did you se these 'huge roaring fires' ?Which side of WTC7 ?
 
triforcharity said:
The fact that I saw the huge roaring fires in WTC 7. I saw the bulge in the building with my own two eyes, and knew IMMEADIATLY that it would fall.

Is that good enough?? Personal eyewitness testimony??
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Nope. I'd ask you for support for your claims, but I think I know how that would go.
 
Speaking as someone who doesn't provide ANY citations or sources for BS that is rather funny.

TruthersLie said:
Bump for Red (since you are here and posting)

Please provide that ONE journal article from ANY structural engineering group ANYWHERE in the world which says that NIST is wrong.

You are making the claim that they have NO evidence, so finding articles in peer reviewed structural engineering journals should be EASY.
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How about the sources showing that Tri's story is a "fabrication?"
 
How come 9/11 Truthers haven't been murdered/silenced/jailed/deported etc. for telling the Truth, bill?

If what you say is true about how fearful the government and powers-that-be are about this stuff getting out, how come you and your compatriots are still there and tapping away on your keyboards, holding meetings, calling into radio show and so on? People like Jason Bermas have made quite a lucrative career out of it. Why aren't the IRS or FBI dragging them away in the night?
 
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