Split Thread WTC7 is a problem for the 9/11 official story

[bill smith]

Of course. Because it's simply impossible that any rational person could NOT be a "truther", is it not?

Effectively what you say is the absolute Truth Twinstead. No rational person could say that WTC7 did not look enough like controlled demolition as to require a new 9/11 investigation.

And we all know that if there is a problem with WTC7 there is a problem with the whole 9/11 official story.

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[Thunder]

Effectively what you say is the absolute Truth Twinstead. No rational person could say that WTC7 did not look enough like controlled demolition as to require a new 9/11 investigation.

And we all know that if there is a problem with WTC7 there is a problem with the whole 9/11 official story.

yes. the collapse of wtc 7 "looks" like a controlled demolition.

but i am not a demolition expert nor a Phd. in engineering. so, i leave it to the experts to explain to me how just because it may look like a CD to the untrained eye, it was really NOT....a CD.

a car kickback sounds like a bomb....but it ain't.

 

[twinstead]

Effectively what you say is the absolute Truth Twinstead. No rational person could say that WWTC7 did not look enough like controlled demolition as to require a new 9/11 investigation.

You can say this all you want, for as long as you want. It absolutely does NOT make it true. The evidence that WTC7 was NOT a CD, which goes a thousand miles above some dudes on the interwebs complaining that it looks like CD therefore must be CD, is rock solid. You don't agree? DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT OTHER THAN WHINING ON AN INTERNET FORUM.

And we all know that if there is a problem with WTC7 there is a problem with the whole 9/11 official story.

If by "WE", you mean a tiny little cult of malcontents, ideologues, and snake oil salesmen, then yea, I suppose so. You so exaggerate the impact of your delightful little movement as to be drop dead funny, my man. You have to be cointelpro. I think you're Bob from accounting in the next cubicle to mine here in NWO headquarters. If that's you Bob, raise your hand above your cube. YOU ROCK!

 

[abenja1]

Effectively what you say is the absolute Truth Twinstead. No rational person could say that WTC7 did not look enough like controlled demolition as to require a new 9/11 investigation.

And we all know that if there is a problem with WTC7 there is a problem with the whole 9/11 official story.

Where do you get the gall to call someone a traitor?

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Effectively what you say is the absolute Truth Twinstead. No rational person could say that WTC7 did not look enough like controlled demolition as to require a new 9/11 investigation.

In architecture studio we often do what is often call case studies which establishes a learning resource.

The case study

Connects the project to prior experience.

Explores new knowledge that has influenced the project.

Records the interrelationships of people, ideas, contracts, and goods.

Recognizes the configuration and reconfiguration of design teams.

Celebrates the talents, expertise, roles, and boundaries of
each team member.

They create materials that are valuable to a wide range of constituencies:

Students who develop the discipline of investigation.

Interns who nurture an understanding of the culture of practice.
Educators who gain a heightened awareness of the conduct of practice.

Practitioners who pursue continuing education.

Allied disciplines and related professionals who seek to make connections to architecture as consultants.

Generalists who seek a greater perspective of practice.

The public, including clients, who seek an accessible means of understanding architecture.

You of course skipped this lesson.

 

[bill smith]

Does WTC7 resemble the controlled demolition shown in the video below ? If not, what significant differences do you see ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73qK4j32iuo

 

[dtugg]

110 days, bs.

 

[Brainache]

Does WTC7 resemble the controlled demolition shown in the video below ? If not, what significant differences do you see ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73qK4j32iuo

The windows haven't all been removed from WTC7 first. If there were charges going off inside WTC7 that were big enough to blow apart the support collumns, all of the windows would have shattered. The windows in adjacent buildings would have shattered also.

I was going to ask you to explain it, but realised that this is a derail, sorry.

 

[Temecula]

Does WTC7 resemble the controlled demolition shown in the video below ? If not, what significant differences do you see ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73qK4j32iuo

The lack of a demolitions team.
The lack of dozens upon dozens of extremely loud explosions.

WTC7's collapse resembles a controlled demolition in much the same way Phil Collins resembles Charlie Brown. A few notable similarities, but ones that are actually quite unimportant and do not represent an indictment of shared identity.

 

[bill smith]

The lack of a demolitions team.
The lack of dozens upon dozens of extremely loud explosions.

WTC7's collapse resembles a controlled demolition in much the same way Phil Collins resembles Charlie Brown. A few notable similarities, but ones that are actually quite unimportant and do not represent an indictment of shared identity.

There were lots of demolition people at WTC7. As regards the noise, I believe that the only explosives really used there were the ones used to weaken he structure pre-demolition that Barry Jennings and Michael Hess reported.

For he rest I think the building was brought down by using a 'melt' technique rather than a 'blast' one..

 

[JoeyDonuts]

There were lots of demolition people at WTC7.

Name one.

Who was in charge? What company were they from? What was the composition and deployment mechanism of the explosive? How was it detonated?

 

[bill smith]

The lack of a demolitions team.
The lack of dozens upon dozens of extremely loud explosions.

WTC7's collapse resembles a controlled demolition in much the same way Phil Collins resembles Charlie Brown. A few notable similarities, but ones that are actually quite unimportant and do not represent an indictment of shared identity.

I realise that this is a very difficult question for you to answer, but when you were a Truther did you think that WTC7 looked like a Controlled Demolition ?

 

[Scott Sommers]

Name one.

Who was in charge? What company were they from? What was the composition and deployment mechanism of the explosive? How was it detonated?

Some of them are pretty obvious. Like the BBC crew must have been in on it. But there's more. All the policemen and firemen who were interviewed earlier in the day and talked about WTC 7 coming down must have been part of the demolition. It must be. No building like this had every fallen down before. Right Bill? Right! Besides, the fires were hardly very bad at all. Right Bill? Right! So even if a fireman is only repeating what he's been told, why wouldn't he be shocked, since the idea of WTC 7 falling down on its own is impossible. Right Bill? Right!

Anyone, absolutely anyone, who talked about the impossible unprecidented WTC 7 falling down must have been part of the demolition.

There are loads of them. The net is full of videos of them. I can give you some linke to start. Why don't you give us some names and then sue them or ask the district attorney to file charges. Chicken or something?

 

[abenja1]

I realise that this is a very difficult question for you to answer, but when you were a Truther did you think that WTC7 looked like a Controlled Demolition ?

I'll ask again, where do you get the gall to call someone a traitor?

 

[twinstead]

There were lots of demolition people at WTC7. As regards the noise, I believe that the only explosives really used there were the ones used to weaken he structure pre-demolition that Barry Jennings and Michael Hess reported.

For he rest I think the building was brought down by using a 'melt' technique rather than a 'blast' one..

Dude. Quit pretending you have ANY expertise at ALL about demolitions. Your "I think"s are about as meaningless as my 7 year old insisting she "thinks" clouds are cotton because they look like cotton.

 

[Caustic Logic]

There were lots of demolition people at WTC7.

Someone call a press conferece! Bill Smith has identified the demolition crews! Time to open an investigation into why the 7 collapse looks to many kind of like a CD, and why a few are convinced it then must be one despite no coherent body of evidence to support that imagining. New investigation phase one will be the same friggin science again to show again that it was not a CD, phase two an intensive probing of the mind of Bill Smith, and a sampling of others. Maybe Jim Hoffman can step up as a pioneer in convincing others. Only then can we get at the root of the problem here.

Temecula - great post above. Y'know, if you listen close to "tonight tonight tonight" you can catch some very Charlie Brown ennui... maybe it was finally kicking the football he was so sure was happening tonight... This might just be something! Delay the PC, we'll make it twofer!

 

[MarkyX]

bill smith, can you show me evidence of bombs found in the WTC7 debris?

 

[Dave Rogers]

For he rest I think the building was brought down by using a 'melt' technique rather than a 'blast' one..

So you think it looks so much like a 'blast' demolition that it can't possibly be anything but a 'blast' demolition, and that leads you to believe it was not a 'blast' demolition, but a 'melt' one, which would involve a more gradual removal of support and hence be expected to look more like the NIST scenario than like a 'blast' demolition?

Do you not realise how self-contradictory your position is?

Dave

 

[Horatius]

No rational person could say that WTC7 did not look enough like controlled demolition as to require a new 9/11 investigation.

As regards the noise, I believe that the only explosives really used there were the ones used to weaken he structure pre-demolition that Barry Jennings and Michael Hess reported.

For he rest I think the building was brought down by using a 'melt' technique rather than a 'blast' one..

So, you believe that WTC7 looked enough like known CDs to require a new investigation, while at the same time acknowledging that there are enough differences as to require an entirely new means of creating a CD.


Are you a student of Richard Gage, by any chance?


ETA: Damn, you Dave Rogers!

 

[aggle-rithm]

For he rest I think the building was brought down by using a 'melt' technique rather than a 'blast' one..

You're right! They cleverly caused the collapse of a nearby skyscraper by crashing an airliner into it, raining debris on building 7 and catching it on fire, thereby weakening the support structures and causing its collapse through "melting".

Rube Goldberg would be proud!