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[Cl1mh4224rd]

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Ya know, enigma, it's too bad that the truthers don't take a lesson from the Heaven's Gate crowd.

Those guys had to cut their nuts off to get in.

bill smith talks of conviction, but I doubt he'd come anywhere near that level of conviction.

Bill has already defined "truther" as someone who sees the "9/11 truth" and cannot change their mind without becoming wrong and therefore not a truther in the first place.

He's defined "truther" as something similar to a species in the animal kingdom. A cat is born a cat and will always be a cat. A dog is born a dog and will always be a dog. To "spontaneously" shift from a cat to a dog is not physically possible, and the only explanation is that the mammal in question was always a dog, and was merely acting like a cat.

 

[bill smith]

He definately is a bad actor.

Would you care to elaborate ?

 

[Thunder]

Hehe, that was me.

yeah, you and I were real trouble. hee hee.

 

[Thunder]

9-11 Truthers calling non-Truthers "irrational".

 

[TJM]

@Temecula:

As you can see, a truther has hijacked your thread and turned into another WTC7 fest. This is what you're leaving behind. Are you sure you won't take him with you?

Please?

 

[Temecula]

@Temecula:

As you can see, a truther has hijacked your thread and turned into another WTC7 fest. This is what you're leaving behind. Are you sure you won't take him with you?

Please?

I'll just ignore him. I can see already he is a lost cause. Almost every sentence he has posted in this topic has been nonsense or fallacy, or both.

 

[Brainache]

Of course this Temecula person is some kind of undercover Truther coming here to steal all our Debunker secrets and hidden Jew Gold. Don't be fooled by his seeming innocence!!!!! Quick, hide the keys to the bunker! Lock up the Gravy-Bot storage silo! And don't let him anywhere near R.Mackey's Hush-A-Boom lab, or he'll be spreading the formula all over the net from here to Hannah Montana.com...
If JohnDoeX were here he'd sort him out.

Or that SunTzu guy...

Don't say I didn't warn you.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

Oi! You could have the Spam, Spam, Bacon, Eggs, Ham, and Spam!

That hasn't got a lot of Spam in it!

 

[Gaspode]

Discussion on WTC7 split to new thread.

Posted By: Gaspode

 

[Lonewulf]

You are just reinforcing the impression that you are not a person of conviction.

Conviction behind nonsense is a dubious honor.

 

[twinstead]

Temecula is getting the same treatment from his former cult members that ALL cult members get when they gather the courage to leave the cult. How dare he!

 

[The Platypus]

Whenever you hear, "i don't believe you were ever a real (scotsman)", in relation to someone that left a group, this is a big giant red flag sign of a cult...

 

[Sunray Breaker]

Welcome to the New World Order, Temecula.

Pick up your ID card from Sheila in HR as soon as you can.

Things have been a little busy here, so your INDOC is going to be short.

You're going to be put on Chemtrail Dispersion Team Alpha. ElMondoHummus is your squad leader for Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Be sure to get at least two coats over billsmith's house. That person just keeps seeing right through the ruse.

Tuesday, you'll maintain surveillance on Dr. Judy Wood. Make sure to kill the power to her laboratory right before she manages to successfully replicate the Hutchison Effect.

Thursday, you gotta shine Moloch. I know, it's not as glamorous as helping Larry Silverstein count his money on a pile of baby skulls and blasting caps, but let's face it - you're the FNG, and you gotta pay dues.

Saturday there's an absolutely faboo chili cookout, and perhaps some bocce.

Sunday's all yours after you embed the sublims into the Christian broadcasts.

Welcome aboard, and watch out for Hokulele. When she bites, it feels like a thousand needles injecting molten hot lava into your bone marrow. Best to stay out of her way until you've got a name tag at least.

How does Joey have all the best material...Thanks for that one Joey!!!

But you neglected to mention his mandatory Public Service for the U.S. Government Prostitution / Memory modification Unit.

 

[Sunray Breaker]

Very Interesting story. Thanks for sharing.

Remember, it's skepticism and humility that are the foundations of science. Our hapless resident truthers don't mind getting pwned. They don't have a shred dignity so they make the most ridiculous analogies. We've seen the WTC towers get compared to lemons, barbecues, pizza boxes and sushi.

So much respect to you for ditching the "if you only watch this video you'll be enlightened like I was" attitude. It may seem weird to truthers but education is not based on how many YouTube videos you've watched.

ETA and FYI: MarkyX did the annotated "screw loose change: not freaking again" video. Gravy did the "Loose Change Guide".

Ahh...Thank you for clearing that one up. Which one is MarkyX? Does he have anything else he's working on? i've watched part of screw 9/11 mysteries and all of SLC.

Has he done any live debates or anything else I could look into?

I was hoping soon to do a LEGIT Anti-Alex Jones Documentary (as opposed to the Alex Jones Deception, which seems a bit naive, from what I've seen) And I'm looking for some help on it.

Anyone in the Denver area in these forums hit me up!!!

 

[SlightlyAbovePar]

Something that you will notice is that when someone says that they used to believe in 9/11 conspiracies, and don't anymore, the conspiranoids jump on it and claim that you were never a true believer and must be lying.

Really, there is no point in arguing about it at that point.

Here's why: what sales professionals call a "third-party" reference. In sales, potential buyers find a third-party endorsement very powerful. Particularly if it is someone they - the buyers - personally know (an actual friend or acquaintance), or feel they know (a celebrity endorsement).

Joe and Sara are buying a widget. While talking to the sales guy he might say something like “ Oh, you know Bob and Jane? Did you know they bought this exact widget? Yup, and they said X, Y and Z are really useful features” NOTHING is more powerful than third-party references, experiences, etc. Now, this issue of a former truther, who by all accounts has “been there, done that” and found the truth movement to be sorely lacking. Guys like this are very powerful third-party references to still-believing truthers.

Bill Smith believes in the widget and buys more widgets every day. Tem used to buy widgets. In fact, he bought so may widgets he helped run web sites dedicated to widgets. And yet, after careful examination of his beliefs concerning widgets, he found the whole widget fascination to be lacking in character, substance and most importantly, any truth. Bill MUST discredit anyone who changes their mind(s). If he doesn't, he is forced to consider the recommendation of a fellow widget'teer.

That is, it's all crap.

 

[Sunray Breaker]

Wow you sound almost like a true jref person already, terminology and all.

The reason he sounds like JREF people is because his "terminology" utilizes reason and not delusions of grandeur.

''...such as Killtown that really supercharged my doubts of the validity of the truth movement's claims...''

You see whether it was last year or last week you make it obvious that you were working off other people's convictions rather than your own.

And you're telling me your 9/11 truth stance wasn't influenced AT ALL by 9/11truth? If it was, then by you're own logic, you are a Group Thinker.

You speak about the ''.. truth movement's claims..'' clearly spelling out that you had no conviction of your own.

Actually, I believe he was just speaking about the truth movements claims and not refferring at all to his convictions, accept perhaps in CONTRAST to the truth movement...You'd make a crap spin doctor.

Therefore it is an easy matter to say that you were never a real Truther. Perhaps a camp-follower, but never a person of personal conviction on the subject.

The fact that he's here proves he has a personal conviction on the subject. He wouldn't even bother to be discussing it otherwise...

As far as conviction goes, many REAL truther's have a few, on their record...(GET IT!!!)

 

[Thunder]

Temecula- so now that you left a major woo....what do you think about other conspiracy theories? such as the no moon landing, the NWO, the Zionists sunk the Lusitania, etc etc?

have u completely left land of woo or are you still a little into it?

mind you, its ok to be a wee woo...just not mucho woo.

 

[Sunray Breaker]

Temecula- so now that you left a major woo....what do you think about other conspiracy theories? such as the no moon landing, the NWO, the Zionists sunk the Lusitania, etc etc?

have u completely left land of woo or are you still a little into it?

mind you, its ok to be a wee woo...just not mucho woo.

I can tell you that the only WOO I still wonder about is the big pharma stuff, evil corporation stuff (because there at least SEEMS to be some evidence of it) and the debacle in New Orleans...But I certainly look at it more realistically than I did before. The reason I buy into THAT woo, is because I don't quite know enough about it yet to rule out...Which is why I cruise around these forums all the time.

That and the whole Smedley Butler Coup thing...But again, something I don't kow much about it, specifically.

 

[Temecula]

Temecula- so now that you left a major woo....what do you think about other conspiracy theories? such as the no moon landing, the NWO, the Zionists sunk the Lusitania, etc etc?

have u completely left land of woo or are you still a little into it?

mind you, its ok to be a wee woo...just not mucho woo.

I don't think I subscribe to any conspiracy theories that I can think of. Why do the Lions keep using their first round draft picks to get QBs and WRs when they have no offensive line and not one member of their defense knows how to tackle? Could it be the Ford family is trying to humiliate Detroit? In all seriousness though, I try not to address anything with a broad brush, so I can only accurately answer a question of belief if it is a specific question.

 

[LashL]

i've watched part of screw 9/11 mysteries and all of SLC.

FYI, Screw 9/11 Mysteries is the work of another poster here, named The Doc.

ETA: You can find the text version of Screw 9/11 Mysteries (the Screw 9/11 Mysteries Guide) online here if you ever want to link to any particular portion/point with text instead of video.