Split Thread WTC7 is a problem for the 9/11 official story

[Toke]

It was so simple......they just drilled a hole in a column. charged it slightly. inserted the nozzle of a spray gun and sprayed the stuff on to whatever thckness they required. Filled it up even.In every column on every floor if they had chosen to.

Do you have any idea how much work it takes to get to the surface of a column. And then getting the wires around?
All without leaving traces or anyone asking questions.

Then comes the bit about what to insert and why.

(I have spent a whole day removing drywall and ceiling plates to get access to the outside of a steel door frame and installing a code lock solenoid)

 

[bill smith]

It's very speculative. And for that reason I don't see why the plane wouldn't have been destined for the Capital or other high profile bldgs that have been mentioned. Since there is no real evidence for where Flight 93 was supposed to end up, I don't see how WTC 7 is more plausible than these other targets.

If you want to talk strictly hypothetically, an Inside Job theory could suggest that the WTC 7 was supposed to be brought down when the towers collapsed, but it simply didn't go as planned, and was brought down later in the day. Hypothetically speaking of course.

I have little doubt that the whole event ws choreographed down to the last detail. It was to be the TV extravaganza that wuld propel a terrified American public into endless war for empire, resources and sheer power. Over their own people too if you consider the draconian powers that the government now possess.

Look at the timing of the planes ? the first one arrives...the news report it, everybody gets on the phone....'turn on your TV...a plane just hit the world Trade Centre'.

So they did, in their millions- just in time to catch the massive terrifying photogenic fireball of WTC2. Then imagine if another plane had arrived five minutes later and nost-dived into the roof of WTC7 ? Right there with the cameras rolling. Imagne that fireball ?

You would have allowed Bush to turn the middle east into a glass desert after that, and to chop the middle finger off every Amrican if he had asked for it.

To me this is very obvious. But of course I cannot prve it.

 

[Justin39640]

Bill, you're still just making stuff up.

At some point do you plan on moving beyond that stage?

at some point hes gonna claim they teleported the thermite in

 

[Justin39640]

Look at the timing of the planes ? the first one arrives...the news report it, everybody gets on the phone....'turn on your TV...a plane just hit the world Trade Centre'.

So they did, in their millions- just in time to catch the massive terrifying photogenic fireball of WTC2. Then imagine if another plane had arrived five minutes later and nost-dived into the roof of WTC7 ? Right there with the cameras rolling. Imagne that fireball ?

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(my edit)

yes that is what AQ wanted

 

[bill smith]

Do you have any idea how much work it takes to get to the surface of a column. And then getting the wires around?
All without leaving traces or anyone asking questions.

Then comes the bit about what to insert and why.

(I have spent a whole day removing drywall and ceiling plates to get access to the outside of a steel door frame and installing a code lock solenoid)

What wires ? They had electronic detonators. You don't think they used that ole-timey detcord do you ?

 

[Pardalis]

I have little doubt that the whole event ws choreographed down to the last detail.

Except that damned plane didn't "show up".

Blasted airport delays!

 

[oldhat]

What wires ? They had electronic detonators. You don't think they used that ole-timey detcord do you ?

So you're saying there were remote controlled detonators inside the fireproof columns? Decades in advance?

 

[bill smith]

Except that damned plane didn't "show up".

Blasted airport delays!

The best laid plans.....
That's why they are in such trouble with WC7. They should be n even more trouble with the ridiculous flight 93 story but they warded that off to some extent by turning it into a huge emotional taboo area. ''Let's Roll' and all that.

 

[Toke]

So you're saying there were remote controlled detonators inside the fireproof columns? Decades in advance?

With superdupernano batteries?

 

[Pardalis]

The best laid plans.....
That's why they are in such trouble with WC7. They should be n even more trouble with the ridiculous flight 93 story but they warded that off to some extent by turning it into a huge emotional taboo area. ''Let's Roll' and all that.

I wonder if you even believe yourself.

Dear god what stupidity.

 

[bill smith]

So you're saying there were remote controlled detonators inside the fireproof columns? Decades in advance?

They could have been inserted t any time. The building could have had loads of 'redundent relays' I think they are called to ensure hat the signals got ythrough to the hundreds or thousands of magnesium detonators.

 

[TruthersLie]

Which post? Not trying to be difficult, just trying to find it.

Hey RED.

I'm still waiting to see your peer reviewed journal articles which state that NIST is wrong.

Where are they?

I'll accept them written in chinese, korean, arabic, swedish, spanish and even english. Heck I'lll take them in ANY language from ANY peer reviewed structural engineering journals ANY WHERE IN THE WORLD.

Come on red, please provide JUST ONE.

 

[Horatius]

So, a plane took off late, was hijacked anyways, and was not intercepted; and you claim there's no way they could have explained it arriving "so long" after the first two? What's wrong with the exact same explanation they gave for it crashing in Pennsylvania?

By then there wuld definitely have een some fighter cover over new York, Pennsylvania wass a litle bit more anonymous.

Yes, fighter cover, which would have provided a nice dramatic shoot-down over New York, likely causing even more damage and destruction in the city, during which every camera in the city would be pointed away from WTC7, at which time they could demo it, and have no fear that intrepid Scooby gang members years later might have video footage of the collapse to examine, and thus reveal their Evil Scheme.

So how was your plan better, again?

 

[GeeMack]

So they did, in their millions- just in time to catch the massive terrifying photogenic fireball of WTC2. Then imagine if another plane had arrived five minutes later and nost-dived into the roof of WTC7 ? Right there with the cameras rolling. Imagne that fireball ?

Just to be sure we're on the same page here, you do believe that the pilot of Flight 93 and/or the radio control equipment that was used to operate the plane was capable of making a targeted nose dive of the 757 into a building with a footprint of about a square city block?

 

[bill smith]

Yes, fighter cover, which would have provided a nice dramatic shoot-down over New York, likely causing even more damage and destruction in the city, during which every camera in the city would be pointed away from WTC7, at which time they could demo it, and have no fear that intrepid Scooby gang members years later might have video footage of the collapse to examine, and thus reveal their Evil Scheme.

So how was your plan better, again?

Personally I suspect that the planes were empty and under remote control. To shoot one down over New York would have revealed that fact when the wreckage was looked at.
Too many witnesss.

 

[lapman]

WOW, what a delusion

I have little doubt that the whole event ws choreographed down to the last detail. It was to be the TV extravaganza that wuld propel a terrified American public into endless war for empire, resources and sheer power. Over their own people too if you consider the draconian powers that the government now possess.

Please list these supposed powers that they NOW posses.

Look at the timing of the planes ? the first one arrives...the news report it, everybody gets on the phone....'turn on your TV...a plane just hit the world Trade Centre'.

So they did, in their millions- just in time to catch the massive terrifying photogenic fireball of WTC2. Then imagine if another plane had arrived five minutes later and nost-dived into the roof of WTC7 ? Right there with the cameras rolling. Imagne that fireball ?

Yeah, because everything has to be in 3's. Gee, since all those explosives had been so well hidden for all those years, they better use them because.. Oh yeah, to destroy some unknown evidence to some unknown investigation that may or may not have been there since demolishing an entire building, blowing paperwork over a several block area, is so much more efficient than the government making the documents "disappear" from a government office.

You would have allowed Bush to turn the middle east into a glass desert after that, and to chop the middle finger off every Amrican if he had asked for it.

Yeah, because the three planes and the collapse of these prominent icons weren't enough. It's always the unknown building that puts us over the top. Just think. If the Japanese had launched their third attack and dropped a bomb on some outhouse near one of the bases, that would have been it. We would have invaded Japan right away instead of fighting for 4 years.

To me this is very obvious. But of course I cannot prve it.

Is it pretty in your fantasy world?

 

[RedIbis]

I have little doubt that the whole event ws choreographed down to the last detail. It was to be the TV extravaganza that wuld propel a terrified American public into endless war for empire, resources and sheer power. Over their own people too if you consider the draconian powers that the government now possess.

Look at the timing of the planes ? the first one arrives...the news report it, everybody gets on the phone....'turn on your TV...a plane just hit the world Trade Centre'.

So they did, in their millions- just in time to catch the massive terrifying photogenic fireball of WTC2. Then imagine if another plane had arrived five minutes later and nost-dived into the roof of WTC7 ? Right there with the cameras rolling. Imagne that fireball ?

You would have allowed Bush to turn the middle east into a glass desert after that, and to chop the middle finger off every Amrican if he had asked for it.

To me this is very obvious. But of course I cannot prve it.

I almost entirely disagree. Whereas an Inside Job might have been planned down to the last detail, that doesn't mean it went according to plan. There are innumerable variables at work.

Secondly, if you're talking about the psychological impact, that was gained by the second strike, a third WTC strike would not have added as much as you're suggesting.

I don't think we'll ever know what the true target for Flight 93 was.

 

[bill smith]

Hey RED.

I'm still waiting to see your peer reviewed journal articles which state that NIST is wrong.

Where are they?

I'll accept them written in chinese, korean, arabic, swedish, spanish and even english. Heck I'lll take them in ANY language from ANY peer reviewed structural engineering journals ANY WHERE IN THE WORLD.

Come on red, please provide JUST ONE.

Anytime you want to discuss he most important and most widely read NIST publication- the NIST FAQ we can step over to the general discussion thread and get it on.

 

[twinstead]

Anytime you want to discuss he most important and most widely read NIST publication- the NIST FAQ we can step over to the general discussion tread and get it on.

Yea, like you are in any way, shape, or form even remotely qualified to discuss the NIST report with most people here. LOL

 

[bill smith]

I almost entirely disagree. Whereas an Inside Job might have been planned down to the last detail, that doesn't mean it went according to plan. There are innumerable variables at work.

Secondly, if you're talking about the psychological impact, that was gained by the second strike, a third WTC strike would not have added as much as you're suggesting.

I don't think we'll ever know what the true target for Flight 93 was.

These guys are not subtle Red. They go in for overkill. Look at Iraq.

It was all about 'shock nd awe' and turning the American people into putty. You figuratively lined up to sign the 'Patrriot Act' that essentally set in motion a string of legislation that has turned you into slaves.You just don't know it yet.