Split Thread WTC7 is a problem for the 9/11 official story

[bill smith]

You're the one that made the evidence-free claim. The onus is on you to back it.

Well let me put it this way....believe it or don't. I think I can already guess.

 

[Pardalis]

In don't think that it is assumed that the terrorists have to give a reason for which bildings they attack.

The official story says the targets were important symbols of America, that was the whole point. The towers were a symbol of America's economic superpower, the Pentagon its military. What was WTC7 symbol about?

Nobody knew of WTC7 before 9/11, so why would they target it?

But let's say that the Mayor's command centre was there, the FBI, the CIA.....you get the picture.

Why would Al Qaeda know about that?

 

[bill smith]

And there Bill, is where you get it wrong.
Fire induced collapse and mundane CD both give a downward collapse.
The quantum linked Hutchinson effect of nanothermite and hurricane driven death ray would have produced an upward collapse.
And it is quite obvious that there is no pile of rubble floating at 47 story altitude.
So your theory* fails.


*Whatever it is.

How can you say 'it fails' if you don't even know what it is ? Sheesh...

 

[Horatius]

Not at all. They could never have explaindd how another jet made it to New York so long after the first two. They already had enough trouble trying to make that seem credible.

So, a plane took off late, was hijacked anyways, and was not intercepted; and you claim there's no way they could have explained it arriving "so long" after the first two? What's wrong with the exact same explanation they gave for it crashing in Pennsylvania?

 

[bill smith]

The official story says the targets were important symbols of America, that was the whole point. The towers were a symbol of America's economic superpower, the Pentagon its military. What was WTC7 symbol about?

Nobody knew of WTC7 before 9/11, so why would they target it?



Why would Al Qaeda know about that?

hese are prety stupid quesions my friend. I won't be answering any more from you of this quality.

The perps knew all about WTC7. They wanted it dead along with it's paperwork. It's not that complicated.

 

[Pardalis]

hese are prety stupid quesions my friend. I won't be answering any more from you of this quality.

Nice evasion. The cognitive dissonance is too much for your little brain, I can understand

The perps knew all about WTC7. They wanted it dead along with it's paperwork. It's not that complicated.

But what would have been the justification for hitting the building in the official story?

You never answered.

 

[bill smith]

So, a plane took off late, was hijacked anyways, and was not intercepted; and you claim there's no way they could have explained it arriving "so long" after the first two? What's wrong with the exact same explanation they gave for it crashing in Pennsylvania?

By then there wuld definitely have een some fighter cover over new York, Pennsylvania wass a litle bit more anonymous.

 

[WildCat]

Not at all. They could never have explaindd how another jet made it to New York so long after the first two. They already had enough trouble trying to make that seem credible.

You're still not making sense. So why not just shoot down Flight 93? Why disappear it and then fake a plane crash?

They had to move quickly. to find a place to say that 93 had gone. So they fond a black scar on the ground in Pennsylvania and set off an explosion there to ruffle up the ground a little and say that the plane had crashed there. It was a piss-poor peration and there is no good reason why they got away with it.

Why not just shoot it down and look like they were really on top of the situation?

As I said, your scenario makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[bill smith]

Nice evasion. The cognitive dissonance is too much for your little brain, I can understand



But what would have been the justification for hitting the building in the official story?

You never answered.

The presence of the FBI,CIA and many other government bodies in the building. I will answer more questions from you in four hours and not before.

 

[Pardalis]

Bill Smith watched too many episodes of "24". The evil perpetrators have plan A, then switch with ease to plan B, then plan C, then plan D, all of which contain the same level of incredible complexity and preparation as plan A.

The real perpetrators Al Qaeda had an ingenious plan A, but plan "B" was just to crash the planes if plan A failed, like they did for flight 93.

 

[Pardalis]

The presence of the FBI,CIA and many other government bodies in the building. I will answer more questions from you in four hours and not before.

The FBI headquarters are in Washington, in the J. Edgar Hoover building, and the CIA headquarters are in Langley, Virginia.

Your theory doesn't fit in the official story, which claims AlQaeda targeted high value targets.

Try again.

 

[Toke]

How can you say 'it fails' if you don't even know what it is ? Sheesh...

Of course I can, it not only fails on lack of evidence but also on the more basic level of getting explained at all.
Do you see any rubble floating over Manhattan?

 

[RedIbis]

Would you say that Bill's theory about WTC 7 is idiotic?

Could we at least agree on that?

Which post? Not trying to be difficult, just trying to find it.

 

[lapman]

Well let me put it this way....believe it or don't. I think I can already guess.

Oh, so not you're asking for blind faith. I would rather go with facts.

TESTIMONY OF HARVEY L. PITT, CHAIRMAN U.S. SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION CONCERNING THE STATE OF THE NATION’S FINANCIAL MARKETS IN THE WAKE OF RECENT TERRORIST ATTACKS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON FINANCIAL SERVICES UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES September 26, 2001

"Within two days of the attack, we had retrieved all documents stored electronically and had commenced a review of every single investigation and case currently underway in the office with the twin aims of ensuring that we do not miss any imminent deadlines and of developing a plan for completing our investigations and cases in timely fashion. While our review has not been completed, we are optimistic that we will not lose any significant investigation or case as a result of the loss of our building."

"There also will not be any serious long-term impact on the Commission’s oversight of securities firms located in the New York area. The Commission’s records related to examinations of all securities firms are maintained electronically in a central database, and were unaffected by the tragedy. Electronic copies of examination reports and deficiency letters are maintained off-site for investment advisers, investment companies, broker-dealers and transfer agents. Records relating to open examinations will be reconstructed from records that exist at registrants’ offices and from other sources." http://www.sec.gov/news/testimony/092601tshlp.htm

Your turn.

 

[bill smith]

You're still not making sense. So why not just shoot down Flight 93? Why disappear it and then fake a plane crash?


Why not just shoot it down and look like they were really on top of the situation?

As I said, your scenario makes no sense whatsoever.

Like I said .This is a strong hypothesis but obviously I do not have access to all the details and so cannot give detailed answers. This is just the broad outline I believe. Gaps will have to be filled in as we go along.

 

[Pardalis]

Which post? Not trying to be difficult, just trying to find it.

The one where he explains that a plane was supposed to hit WTC7, but somehow the plane didn't "show up" and they had to devise a plan to rig the building for controlled demolition on the spot.

 

[lapman]

Like I said .This is a strong hypothesis but obviously

Wrong. It's a weak hypothesis with no basis in reality whatsoever.

I do not have access to all the details and so cannot give detailed answers. This is just the broad outline I believe. Gaps will have to be filled in as we go along.

Good luck with that.

 

[Pardalis]

Good luck with that.

That's pretty much what he's been doing all along, making **** up as he goes along.

 

[bill smith]

Oh, so not you're asking for blind faith. I would rather go with facts.


Your turn.

No problem. We only have this guys word for this, Apart from that I can believe that the electronic data would mostly have been on other computers but perhaps not some of the hard socumentation. They could 'lose' any critical document they liked after a mess like this.

 

[RedIbis]

The one where he explains that a plane was supposed to hit WTC7, but somehow the plane didn't "show up" and they had to devise a plan to rig the building for controlled demolition on the spot.

Post number or quotes please.