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9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

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no, I don't have any evidence artists or musicians are less criminal than non-musicians.

should I?

it is probable, in my eyes, that it is like that. are there any datas of investigations?

Hitler was an artist who had no success and got very frustrated about it. In this case his art turned to a sign of (in common thinking: caused) his un-re-ligion towards his environment, because it didn't provide him the acknowledgement (I hope that's the right term) and didn't fill his dish.

music as therapy is just the power of music, not searching success / money or fame.

music can (be used to) activate holistic perception, to harmonise your body and mind. people can intensely feel how the well chosen sound or music works harmonising on their centers of energy in the body.
it is well known that -not only exceedingly sensitive- people come to cry listening to music. Crying is a form of getting stress out, blockings, unhealthy feelings.

Holistic perception as far as I experienced personally and heard/read is approved to soothe aggressivity.

There are other methods which may be more adequate to start to handle in general or in different cases, I don't have any experience with murderers.

In fact, as I said: sensible and sensitive use of intuition - to find how to treat whatever and delinquents as well.
And for that job I would chose people who identify with and are ethically and specially formed for this job, not people like you or me .



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Then you're approaching the issue exactly backwards. It shouldn't be a question of working with your "special abilities" if even you don't think that your abilities will solve the problem. (I'm reminded of the old joke about the drunk looking for his keys under the wrong lightpost, "because the light is better here.")

It's a nice story, indeed...
a) If scientifics never had approached issues right-, backwards, diagonally, from the bottom and from the top, they would have missed a huge amount of excellent and useful answers.

b) you don't know what's the core of racism and violence, do you?
So you don't know where the key is, but you don't want to search at the place where other people are able to perceive light.
And you want to destroy the car, as you don't find the key. while you don't even have any "Abwrackprämie" in your country XD. (at the moment Germans get money to give their cars to be destroyed, so that they should be inspired to buy new ones.)

Some say that racism and violence arise from (lack of) education, from the living conditions...
There may be other answers.
I'm a teacher and my (spiritual or material) proximity is part of the living conditions of several humans. I operate in this domain.
It's not intelligible to me why I should consider this as a wrong or weak approach to this issue.


What we need to work with are things that will solve the problem -- whether they're anyone's special abilities or not.

I approach things the way that suits me and that follows my personal power. I am not qualified to punish somebody. I search to be a good example, I inspirate people to think another way and educate young one people.

You can take a manager who whether feels nor never felt like composing to write a symphony.
We'll see what fruits that may provide us. :sour:
You can take a whole village of people with the same musical background. It won't help, I'm pretty sure.

Even if we REALLY need new music, and rapidly, there may be found more predestined people around or in another place.

In our times that shouldn't cause any problem. We have specialists for (almost?) everything, and we have facilities to create specialists with new approachs in all domains we can imagine.

There are people who are rich in experience concerning the psychology of murderers. I am not, as far as I know ;). Are you?


Or if we can't find things that "will" solve the problem, at least things that "are likely to" solve the problem or for which we have evidence that they "can" solve the problem.

Just killing people causes more problems than it is likely to solve, (not only) my opinion. The way it actually happens it's likely to hugely amplify a very very low frequency of conscience.

You think world will get less agressive just by behaving an agressive way, that's interesting.
 
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My own Saxon Dutch father was deported in 1944 to Poland to participate in the Arbeitseinsatz. He had amongst others to help clean up the mess in Dresden a few days after the Allies carried out their barbarous attack that claimed a comparable number of lives (135,000) in 1 night intentionally as all the people that died in all the camps combined over 3 years (270,000)!

He never experienced any barbarous act by the Germans.

If he was deported into a slave labor program, would not the event of the act be barbarous by itself -- or is slave labor now an accepted act?:boggled:
 
If he was deported into a slave labor program, would not the event of the act be barbarous by itself -- or is slave labor now an accepted act?:boggled:

It is, apparently, when the Nazis do it.
 

Referring to the video: he says he saw 'crematoria and pits'.

Every tourists can see the crematoria and since even revisionists acknowledge that tens of thousands of people died in Auschwitz it is certainly theoretically possible (but never confirmed by air-photos form the Allies) that people where burned in pits because the normal crematoria couldn't handle these large numbers of people who died as a consequence of typhus epidemics.

It's quite telling that in the video this Oskar G. character does not mention any gas chambers. It is even more telling that the BBC deceptively inserted 'gas chambers' in the subtitles of their broadcast:

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Letters/Auschwitz/Marques_150405.html

He did not say that, at least not in the video that you linked.

Next.

P.S. as a bonus, read this link:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,638751,00.html

A new book came out recently that revealed that most French soldiers during the Russia campaign under Napoleon died, no because of cold or in combat but because of (drum roll)... lice and as a consequence typhus. Just as was the case in the concentration camps, according to the revisionists. Unfortunate for the French soldiers the French army did not possess mobile gas chambers to fumigate the uniforms of it's personnel.
 
Wasn't crematoria the name used to refer to the whole set of buildings that housed both the crematoria proper and the gaz chambers?
 
Wasn't crematoria the name used to refer to the whole set of buildings that housed both the crematoria proper and the gaz chambers?

ive seen pics of the crematoria. they aren't very big. how many bodies could u fit in there at one time?
 
20,000 : 24 = 833 people per hour
833 : 60 = ~14 people per minute

That's an amazing number, would you not agree, Oliver?

But you see, the Germans had no choice. They had to maintain this kind of productivity in order to meet targets as set by the Allies after the war.
 
That's an amazing number, would you not agree, Oliver?

But you see, the Germans had no choice. They had to maintain this kind of productivity in order to meet targets as set by the Allies after the war.
It certainly would be, if that was the non-stop, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week rate. And if it was only one crematoria.

In reality, there were four crematorias and even during the busiest period (the extermination of the Hungarian jews), they didn't average more than 8000 prisoners pr day.
 
That's an amazing number, would you not agree, Oliver?


Indeed, it's actually hard to believe that those things happened by relying on numbers only.

But you see, the Germans had no choice. They had to maintain this kind of productivity in order to meet targets as set by the Allies after the war.


What does that mean; what targets? :confused:
 
Can't this thread be left to die a rightful death?

9/11 Investigator has been discredited enough.
 
Oh, you know, the disgusting little Nazi fanboy thinks the Holocaust was invented by the Allies after the war.


He thinks that the crematoria and mass graves were installed after the war and people like my Grandmother were brain-washed to believe that all of that happened?

LOL? :confused:
 
He thinks that the crematoria and mass graves were installed after the war and people like my Grandmother were brain-washed to believe that all of that happened?

LOL? :confused:

More like Crying Out Loud...:rolleyes:
 
He thinks that the crematoria and mass graves were installed after the war and people like my Grandmother were brain-washed to believe that all of that happened?

LOL? :confused:

That, or some other ridiculous fantasy.

You know how it is... nothing is too far-fetched to be brought up, as long as it can serve to seemingly exonerate a gang of genocidal madmen, so that their intellectual (and I´m using "intellectual" loosely, considering the abysmal mental acuity displayed by someone here) descendants can pick up their work.
 
Can't this thread be left to die a rightful death?

9/11 Investigator has been discredited enough.

Really, discredited by what then? Certainly not by your 'arguments'. Only by your incessant smearing and name-calling. But that is hardly discrediting. Maybe you can exert pressure to get this thread closed, but you cannot close the discussion. The internet is much bigger than this forum.

At the moment I am doing some renewed reading on the subject, I'll be back, rest assured. I am in no hurry since time is working in my favor.
 
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