9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[9/11-investigator]

Europe? United? don't make me laugh.

We have elections, a parlement, a commission and soon a president and most important: a currency (picture dedicated to Trojan, he likes those pictures).

Nato is still functioning

Afghans like NATO, these sitting ducks. And they got their geostrategic *sses kicked in Georgia.

Moldova and Ukraine are on the brink fo war

That's new to me. Both not member of the EU, but hey never let facts interrupts a good argument.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

Sure, America always advocated ascension of Turkey... as a means of weakening Europe. Ain't gonna happen.

A month or so ago Merkel, Berlusconi and even Sarkozy ruled out categorically membership of Turkey. And they call the shots and not you. You are history with your 50% read ink and no industry worth mentioning and a currency that is currently being quantitatively eased into oblivion.

It is going to happen. There is a big movement for it.

I thought you hated Sarkozy,

So why is it that you want to finish what hitler started? Regardless of your motivation, i will stop you, any way i can.

Britain is making a recovery. Milton friedman said that the Euro may not survive a recession.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

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I believe these had a hand in it.. (skillfully photoshopped by yrs' trly.)
Talking to one of Lockheed's "Captured German Scientists" at work after the '71 Sylmar Earthquake, the noise of the quake was mentioned.
He said "A tausand B-17s made more noise!"

My grandfathers brothers helped:

 

[NWO Sentryman]

My grandfathers brothers helped:

[qimg]http://www.lancastermuseum.ca/photos/p_home1.jpg[/qimg]

unfortunately, they seemed to have missed a few blighters.

but can't blame em.

Still, they did a great job crushing the Nazis.

 

[Uzzy]

It appears that the fascist wants a united Europe, probably without the Jews, I'm guessing? Shame that was already tried. Guess who lost.

While I don't normally advocate Wikipedia as a source for academic work, I feel this page is highly informative on the nature of the German-Soviet talks. It's exceedingly well sourced and quite in depth. Not something that gets mentioned much, especially not by the fascist here. I'll respond to the one semi-intellectual point made by him though.

Pack of lies. In Yalta it was decided that Eastern-Europa shoud remain under the Soviet sphere of influence. It was Roosevelt who de facto agreed with it, regardless of what he 'believed' or 'wanted'. In his utter naivite Uzzy deplores that the alliance between the Anglo's and the Soviets came to an end, enforcing the idea that JREF harbors mainly crypto-communists.

While my voting history would seem to counter the idea that I'm a 'crypto-communist', I suppose the fascist would consider anyone slightly to the left of Hitler as one, so it's not really an issue. No matter.

Once again the fascist gets history wrong, and misses my point. Roosevelt had always publically demanded the right of self-determination in Eastern Europe, insisting that Stalin should abide by it. Privately he may have felt differently, but when it came to the Yalta negotiations, the text said, and I quote.. "to create democratic institutions of their own choice. This is a principle of the Atlantic Charter -- the right of all peoples to choose the form of government under which they will live". Roosevelt still had faith that Stalin would come to a compromise, at the very least to look good on the international stage, and allow some sort of elections within the Eastern European nations that the Soviets currently controlled. Even Churchill felt that Stalin would keep his promises over Poland.

As it turned out, Stalin didn't keep his promises. The trial of the sixteen, and the sham elections carried out in 1947 showed that Stalin wouldn't work with the West. By that point, Stalin had de facto control over those areas, and short of provoking a full scale war, the west couldn't do anything about it. Regardless, it's one of the reasons why relations between Stalin and the West broke down after the war, which led to the Cold War.

Anyway, it's clear that you, being a fascist, can't physically understand complex history. No wonder you have to reduce every major event to 'Joo's did it!'.

By the way, here's another fascist killing weapon we Brits know how to use well. Shame we missed a few, but I think on the whole we did rather well. All the United Nations did well, by the way. Funny how fascists had very few countries under their control and found fewer friends, while liberal democracies have allies all around the world.

 

[9/11-investigator]

It is going to happen. There is a big movement for it.

Sure, Turkey is in favor of it, so is Anglosphere. Europe is not. Ain't going to happen.

I thought you hated Sarkozy

Look, the youknowwhos introduced a new legal concept: 'hate'. And the children already discovered this new plaything.

So why is it that you want to finish what hitler started? Regardless of your motivation, i will stop you, any way i can.

I want a voluntary alliance, no overrun scenario's.
And of course you want to stop it, that's why your are a NWO sentry man. But we are not interested in these Jewish scheme's. Nobody wants this NWO, except Israel plus their serfs US+UK. Or Oceania as Orwell called it.

Britain is making a recovery. Milton friedman said that the Euro may not survive a recession.

Britain is not making any recovery at all. Instead it is facing an Iceland style collapse and disintegration.

Milton Friedman is a dead Jew. The Euro is about to take over the Dollars role as world currency.

You're a dreamer, NWO sentryman.

Oh and keep an eye on those tea parties. These gatherings do have a tendency of overthrowing a societal order. Just go and ask an East-German.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

Sure, Turkey is in favor of it, so is Anglosphere. Europe is not. Ain't going to happen.

turkey is in the process of membership.

Look, the youknowwhos introduced a new legal concept: 'hate'. And the children already discovered this new plaything.

Hate has always been a part of man ever since he began to think. The romans hated the gauls and vice versa.

I want a voluntary alliance, no overrun scenario's.
And of course you want to stop it, that's why your are a NWO sentry man. But we are not interested in these Jewish scheme's. Nobody wants this NWO, except Israel plus their serfs US+UK. Or Oceania as Orwell called it.

If orwell were alive today, he would tear your arguments apart.

I am a proud gatekeeper and proud supporter of Israel.

Your New World Order is a plan to bring the world back to the dark ages. I solemnly swear i will do everything within my power to stop that from happening.

Britain is not making any recovery at all. In stead it is facing an Iceland style collapse and disintegration.

The UK has been through worse (Civil War, Napoleon, 1798 rebellion, great depression)

Milton Friedman is a dead Jew. The Euro is about to take over the Dollars role as world currency.

The Euro is overrated and subject to the same pressures as the dollar.

You're a dreamer, NWO sentryman.

You are the dreamer. You dream of finishing the job Hitler started years ago. You will never succeed.

Oh and keep an eye on those tea parties. These gatherings do have a tendency of overthrowing a societal order. Just go and ask an East-German.

The Tea Parties are, in the words of noam chomsky, "small potatoes"

 

[9/11-investigator]

It appears that the fascist wants a united Europe, probably without the Jews, I'm guessing? Shame that was already tried. Guess who lost.

Really? The conditions have changed. The Jews lost Russia. And thanks to the internet it will 'loose the holocaust' and it's induced moral inalienability.

I don't mind having Parky around. But these higher-ups I will miss like tooth-ache. Always busy trying to mold your society in a direction the general population hates. Like towards communism or multiculturalism.

But I don't think that the changes will be as dramatic as in the 20th century. The 20th century was in reality the Jewish Century although it is usually euphemistically called the American Century. 9/11 was an attempt to create a 'New American Century' (read New Jewish Century). I think that the aftermath of 9/11, a colossal Jewish blunder, will make sure that this is not going to happen. What will happen is this: I expect a rather peaceful Jeltzin-style transition. America will retreat. It will punish the Israeli perpetrators, it will cut it's ties with Israel, it will abandon it's empire, it will use it's troops to guard it's own border for a change. It will become isolationist again. It will probably loose California and other South-Western states to Mexico. Northern States could secede and possibly refederalise on the model of the old Constitution. The dollar will be abandoned as it is the only way to get rid of the astronomical foreign debts and a new gold-standard based currency will be introduced. The general standard of living will fall dramatically.

 

[Uzzy]

I do believe that last post proves that fascism melts the brain.

 

[Vortigern99]

Hello 9/11-Investigator. I will not spout hateful rhetoric at you because I am woefully under-informed on this subject and, after reading through this entire thread and following its many links, I am only now beginning to form conclusions about what I've read. As far as I know, you might have a point in some of this, but are being labeled an anti-semite as a kind of kneejerk reaction to your claims. That said, I noticed that you have yet to respond to a couple of posts from the first page, which directly answer your request for evidence. Would you mind addressing the following points? Thank you:

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1. Written documents--Orders for Zyklon-B gas, blueprints and orders for building materials for the crematoria, etc.

2. Eyewitness testimony--Sonderkommando diaries, confessions of guards and commandants, etc.

3. Photographs--Not only of the camps, but especially interesting are the secret photos taken of the burning of bodies that were smuggled out of Auschwitz.

4. The camps themselves--forensic tests have now been conducted demonstrating the homicidal use of both the gas chambers and the crematoria for the express purpose of exterminating large numbers of prisoners (Pressac, 1989; Pressac and Van Pelt, 1994).

5. Negative evidence--we have documentation of the numbers of prisoners shipped to the various camps, the numbers that were transferred, and the number liberated. The difference between the latter with the former two figures gives an approximation of the numbers who died or were killed (see Hilberg, 1961).


Proving the Gas Chambers & Crematoria

 

[~enigma~]

I do believe that last post proves that fascism melts the brain.

What brain?

 

[Uzzy]

What brain?

The aforementioned fascist protobrain!

 

[SimonD]

Once again the fascist gets history wrong...

It's not about getting history wrong it's about rewriting it. As Orwell said, "those who control the past control the present".

As a fascist he knows the holocaust happened. He is happy that so many Jews (and other 'undesirables') were killed, but in order to regain power he needs to rewrite it. If we forget the past, then we are doomed to repeat it. This is what he wants. He would love to see the ovens light up again, but like Hitler, he understands the power of the lie, it severs his purpose to deny it (for now)

 

[Chaos]

As far as I know, you might have a point in some of this, but are being labeled an anti-semite as a kind of kneejerk reaction to your claims.

I assure you there is nothing knee-jerk in this. His rabid hatred of Jews is very evident in his posts, and the way his claims have been ripped to shreds, there is no more need to give him the benefit of doubt that he might be right.

 

[Simon39759]

Sure, America always advocated ascension of Turkey... as a means of weakening Europe. Ain't gonna happen.

A month or so ago Merkel, Berlusconi and even Sarkozy ruled out categorically membership of Turkey. And they call the shots and not you. You are history with your 50% read ink and no industry worth mentioning and a currency that is currently being quantitatively eased into oblivion.

You realize that I am European?

It's funny, generally fascists have been anti-EU nationalists. I would generally be glad to see people converted to the EU, I have supported the project for a long time, but I am not sure in this case.
It seems like 9/11 would like to spell EU: 'R.E.I.C.H'...

 

[9/11-investigator]

turkey is in the process of membership.

It will stay in the process for ever.

Hate has always been a part of man ever since he began to think. The romans hated the gauls and vice versa.

But never as a legal concept. That's a new Jewish invention to further tyranize Euro-Americans into accepting multicultural society against their will.

If orwell were alive today, he would tear your arguments apart.

He is dead.

I am a proud gatekeeper and proud supporter of Israel.

Like most people here. I wonder if I am the only European here?

Your New World Order is a plan to bring the world back to the dark ages. I solemnly swear i will do everything within my power to stop that from happening.

It's the other way around. European Civilization (either in Europe or America) has always been the beacon of the world. European Civilization is the Godliest there has ever been on this planet. All other civilizations crumble in comparison. And here comes a bunch of Ukrainian Khazars calling themselves Jews since 800 AD or so and want to subjugate us and destroy us in order to replace us with the hordes of the third world in order to divide society so you can function as middlemen and hold all the power. You want to kill the aristocrats like you did in Russia ('Kill the best Gentiles'/'Tob Shebbe Goyim Harog!'). You represent the ugliest, cruellest, most tyrannical and loveless creatures to walk the surface of this planet. That's why you killed The Best Gentile JFK: he wanted to take the FED from you. He wanted to prevent Israel acquiring nuclear weapons. And most of all you wanted to get this Texan Jew Lyndon Baines Johnson in power without the hassle of getting him elected first. The first thing he did was signing the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 that laid the basis of the destruction of European Society on American soil which is now irreversible thereby finishing almost a century of preparation to achieve this goal.

The UK has been through worse (Civil War, Napoleon, 1798 rebellion, great depression)

Ah, much better. Gone is the talk about a (non-existing) recovery. That was easy!

The Euro is overrated and subject to the same pressures as the dollar.

The Euro is going to be much, much more overrated.
The reason is that the world is not (yet) saturated with Euro's. That will take decades. And there are too many parties all too eager to dethrone The Great Satan. And Europe has stuff to offer for it's own currency much unike the US (or Britain).

You are the dreamer. You dream of finishing the job Hitler started years ago. You will never succeed.

Europe is now united. Don't see why we cannot ally with Russia. The Russians want it and the Germans want it. Despite all your trifle about me being a 'Hitler fan boy', you are completely wrong. Hitler represented the angry German underclass. And the underclass that's not where my sympathies lie. And although I have indeed great sympathy for the Germans, socialism in whatever form doesn't have any appeal to me whatsoever, being a highly paid independent technological consultant. My sympathy is with the Victorian and Wilhelminian elite. I want to go back to the 18/19th century and via that to 16th century aristocratic France. OK, one cannot turn back the clock but you get the idea of the direction.

The Tea Parties are, in the words of noam chomsky, "small potatoes"

Haha, the same Chomsky who declared 'not to be interested in who was behind 9/11'. Real reason: he knows who did 9/11, namely his tribe. Chomsky will be in jail soon.

Goodnight.

 

[dtugg]

Hey you evil nazi, how come your heroes argued that they were just following orders if the Holocaust never even happened? Must have slipped their minds.

 

[Uzzy]

Like most people here. I wonder if I am the only European here?

Given that your definition of European seems to mean Nazi.. well, yes, you are the only one here. Fascism as a doctrine was rather discredited when your hero Hitler died.

 

[Toke]

Europe is now united. Don't see why we cannot ally with Russia. The Russians want it and the Germans want it. Despite all your trifle about me being a 'Hitler fan boy', you are completely wrong. Hitler represented the angry German underclass. And the underclass that's not where my sympathies lie. And although I have indeed great sympathy for the Germans, socialism in whatever form doesn't have any appeal to me whatsoever, being a highly paid independent technological consultant. My sympathy is with the Victorian and Wilhelminian elite. I want to go back to the 18/19th century and via that to 16th century aristocratic France. OK, one cannot turn back the clock but you get the idea of the direction.

What makes you think you would come out on top of a facist state?

 

[Nick Terry]

Nick has found a list somewhere on the internet and decides to copy and paste it, resulting in a 'real long and intellectual looking post'. Well, let's go through Nick's list then after thanking him for providing me with an excellent opportunity to score numerous points:

Nick wrote the list.

That you seem to think that Denier B****** Bingo is an "excellent opportunity to score numerous points" is proof only of your utter predictability as a Holocaust denier. Heck, you'd scored several dozen on the list before I posted it.

Hint: if people have come up with a Bingo list to tick off your predictable arguments, you may need new ones.