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Why do Obama and democrats keep regurgitating this obvious lie about the number of uninsured Americans? Have they no shame?
Granted, the Census Bureau report “Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2005,” placed the number of uninsured people living in the US at 46.6 million ... and there probably are more now.
But that same census report estimated there were 9.5 million people in the US who were not citizens and there are probably more of them now too. So why don't Obama and democrats be honest and say there are 37 million uninsured Americans?
And if truth be told, the Census figure was probably an underestimate of the number of illegal aliens back in 2005. According to http://www.bearstearns.com/bscportal/pdfs/underground.pdf, in 2004, CNN reported that as many 20 million people are living in the US illegally. Time magazine in 2004 said there were 15 million illegals. In 2003, Georgia Senator Sam Zamarripa, a member of MALDEF ... the most influential hispanic organization in the US and an organization which advocates open borders and free college tuition of illegals) stated there were 20 million illegal aliens. And an independent study from 2005 by Bear Stearns estimated the number was between 18-20 million. And that number has probably gone up since 2005.
So wouldn't a more honest figure for the number of Americans without health insurance be somewhere between 27 and 31 million? Why don't Obama and the democrats tell the truth and cite that number instead? Why lie?
And democrats have gone a step further in their claims. They've claimed that 40-50 million *Americans* can't "afford" health insurance. But according to the same 2005 census report there were 8.3 million uninsured people who made between $50,000 and $74,999 per year and 8.74 million who made more than $75,000 a year. That’s roughly 17 million people who ought to have been able to “afford” health insurance because they made substantially more than the median household income of $46,326.
So why don't Obama and the democrats be honest in their presentation and say that the number of Americans who cannot afford health insurance is somewhere between 10 and 14 million? Why do they continue to lie and claim that number is 45 or even 50 million?
And truth be told, many of the people who make less than the median household income could afford health insurance. The truth is that many of them are voluntarily uninsured. So probably the number of Americans who can afford health insurance is even less than 10 to 14 million.
But even that's not where the lie ends. The Kaiser Family Foundation, a liberal group, puts the number of uninsured Americans who make less than $50,000 and do not qualify for current government health programs at between 8.2 and 13.9 million (http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2007/20070718153509.aspx ). The reason for the spread is that the 8.2 million figure only includes those uninsured for more than 2 years. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 45 percent of uninsured people will be uninsured for less than 4 months.
So perhaps if democrats were really being honest with the public, they'd admit that only about 5 to 7 million Americans are chronically uninsured and in need of help. But they don't. They go on repeating the lie that 45 million (and now it is 50 million) Americans are uninsured and need help so they can push through a massive socialization of the American economy.
And there is more. The CBO also estimates that 15% of the uninsured are eligible for help but don't seek it out. Are any of those 5 to 7 million chronically uninsured Americans in that category? Perhaps most of them? If so, then the democrat claim is nearly 100% LIE.
But then lies are all we've come to expect from Obama and the democrats.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090716/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_overhaul_81
Why do Obama and democrats keep regurgitating this obvious lie about the number of uninsured Americans? Have they no shame?
Granted, the Census Bureau report “Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2005,” placed the number of uninsured people living in the US at 46.6 million ... and there probably are more now.
But that same census report estimated there were 9.5 million people in the US who were not citizens and there are probably more of them now too. So why don't Obama and democrats be honest and say there are 37 million uninsured Americans?
And if truth be told, the Census figure was probably an underestimate of the number of illegal aliens back in 2005. According to http://www.bearstearns.com/bscportal/pdfs/underground.pdf, in 2004, CNN reported that as many 20 million people are living in the US illegally. Time magazine in 2004 said there were 15 million illegals. In 2003, Georgia Senator Sam Zamarripa, a member of MALDEF ... the most influential hispanic organization in the US and an organization which advocates open borders and free college tuition of illegals) stated there were 20 million illegal aliens. And an independent study from 2005 by Bear Stearns estimated the number was between 18-20 million. And that number has probably gone up since 2005.
So wouldn't a more honest figure for the number of Americans without health insurance be somewhere between 27 and 31 million? Why don't Obama and the democrats tell the truth and cite that number instead? Why lie?
And democrats have gone a step further in their claims. They've claimed that 40-50 million *Americans* can't "afford" health insurance. But according to the same 2005 census report there were 8.3 million uninsured people who made between $50,000 and $74,999 per year and 8.74 million who made more than $75,000 a year. That’s roughly 17 million people who ought to have been able to “afford” health insurance because they made substantially more than the median household income of $46,326.
So why don't Obama and the democrats be honest in their presentation and say that the number of Americans who cannot afford health insurance is somewhere between 10 and 14 million? Why do they continue to lie and claim that number is 45 or even 50 million?
And truth be told, many of the people who make less than the median household income could afford health insurance. The truth is that many of them are voluntarily uninsured. So probably the number of Americans who can afford health insurance is even less than 10 to 14 million.
But even that's not where the lie ends. The Kaiser Family Foundation, a liberal group, puts the number of uninsured Americans who make less than $50,000 and do not qualify for current government health programs at between 8.2 and 13.9 million (http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2007/20070718153509.aspx ). The reason for the spread is that the 8.2 million figure only includes those uninsured for more than 2 years. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 45 percent of uninsured people will be uninsured for less than 4 months.
So perhaps if democrats were really being honest with the public, they'd admit that only about 5 to 7 million Americans are chronically uninsured and in need of help. But they don't. They go on repeating the lie that 45 million (and now it is 50 million) Americans are uninsured and need help so they can push through a massive socialization of the American economy.
And there is more. The CBO also estimates that 15% of the uninsured are eligible for help but don't seek it out. Are any of those 5 to 7 million chronically uninsured Americans in that category? Perhaps most of them? If so, then the democrat claim is nearly 100% LIE.
But then lies are all we've come to expect from Obama and the democrats.
