"We will kill 9/11 CT skeptics after 9/11 Truth comes out."

[funk de fino]

Look up "statement" in a dictionary and you will discover that your generally meaning people have misunderstood what the word "statement" means. A statement can go on for pages. It can be a whole book.

I have no idea what the specifics of "the **** hitting the fan" might be, only that when people perceive that they have been ripped off they get angry and are likely to express their anger. The phrase, to me, defines the moment when consequences of past actions begin to manifest.

The doo doo will hit the fan if you ever bring anything other than semantics to your defence.

0800 BORING

What will the people likely do when they get angry? I hope its more than you. Or will the people just bleat on messageboards?

 

[JihadJane]

I don't think that would be possible.

Are you psychic?

 

[Gravy]

Personally, I believe the the crazier elements of the 9/11 Truth movement were largely weaved into being by the government itself as a type of misdirection (maybe even a little agent provocateurism)

I'm late to the party here, but your fantasy is exactly what the crazier elements of the "truth" movement – the ones you purport to disparage – say about the other crazy elements. Siding with raving paranoiacs who demonstrably get nothing right is not a good way to proceed with your investigation into the events of 9/11.

The 9/11 truth movement seems to have started off by people with good intentions trying to make sense of some of the events that happened on 9/11 that didn't seem to add up... Then from there it would almost seem as if it was "hijacked" and before you know it increasingly crazier theories surfaced from remote controlled-planes, controlled-demolition, holographic planes, to magical nano-thermite and stuff...

You clearly do not know the history of the early and major 9/11 conspiracy claims, which were largely created and promoted by people with existing websites and strong political and social agendas, most conspicuously anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial.

See Ref's "The History of 9/11 Conspiracy Theories" and my 2006 look at some of the anti-Semites, and the truthers who supported and relied on them, who were major early players in lying about the "truth."

 

[1337m4n]

Look up "statement" in a dictionary and you will discover that your generally meaning people have misunderstood what the word "statement" means. A statement can go on for pages. It can be a whole book.

Yes, technically, it can. And technically, Antarctica is a desert, but a person who says he's "always wanted to visit the desert" is going to be rather disappointed when you hand him a ticket to the South Pole.

You asked me what I didn't understand about "the following statement" (singular). You then threw a wall of text at me that contained no less than seven wholly distinct ideas. Which one were you referring to?

I have no idea what the specifics of "the **** hitting the fan" might be, only that when people perceive that they have been ripped off they get angry and are likely to express their anger. The phrase, to me, defines the moment when consequences of past actions begin to manifest.

Good, define your terms in the most vague manner possible. That way you get to claim that you were right no matter what ends up happening! Whether there's a second American Revolution, or whether the only thing that happens is the IRS receives a slightly larger volume of angry letters than normal, you still get to claim that you were right! Ingenious!

May I borrow your technique? I would like to claim Randi's $1 mil prize by claiming the ability to predict the future, then proving it by telling him that "something vague may or may not happen at some unspecified point in the future". He can't possibly claim that I'm wrong!

 

[240-185]

This message is hidden because JihadJane is on your ignore list.

Whatever you post, and whatever you say in it, I don't care. But as I read other people's reaction, I can tell that I personally consider you as a bore. You desperately try to defend the twoof movement with your personal conception of the dictionary where you have pimped all the definitions, and then try to attack JREFers with these flawed definitions.

It also seems that you don't attack the JREFers on facts any more. You're just playing a child's game by saying "nah nee nah noo nah you are as despicable as the guys you criticize nah nee nah noo nah." And that's why I put you on ignore; because you don't bring ANYTHING to a discussion.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

This from an internet bozo, who admits to writing this to the CIA, etc. Pity the poor guys who have to read this crap on our tax dimes:

Are you kidding? I love the thought of our boys at Langley having a chuckle over this. With the never-ending banality of their job, I'd bet his letter is printed out in more than a few cubicles over there.

As far as the CFR goes...I'm guessing it received an odd look and then a quick trip right to the round file.

 

[Justin39640]

Are you kidding? I love the thought of our boys at Langley having a chuckle over this. With the never-ending banality of their job, I'd bet his letter is printed out in more than a few cubicles over there.

As far as the CFR goes...I'm guessing it received an odd look and then a quick trip right to the round file.

i hope the FOIA greatest hits (wall of shame?) comes out one day lol

 

[INRM]

This is what I was talking about on Page 5
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt332/JREFImages/Howardscripps.jpg

INRM

 

[jaydeehess]

No, they'll never go for it as Rockefeller and his boys are globalists with huge investments in Asia so we're doomed.

So that's why the CIA is not willing to commit the single largest mass killing of human beings in all of history. I am very glad the loon pointed that out to us all.

 

[jaydeehess]

Because on page 5, apparently a written report shown apparently lists people who hold conspiracy theory beliefs, and beliefs that show distrust for the government are basically viewed by the government as being a threat to national security and more or less seems to imply they should be viewed as domestic-terrorists.

This is what I was talking about on Page 5
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt332/JREFImages/Howardscripps.jpg

INRM

Well then in answer to the question you posed, no.

It says that 70% of those who hold CT beliefs are "getting angry" not that they are domestic terrorists.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Because on page 5, apparently a written report shown apparently lists people who hold conspiracy theory beliefs, and beliefs that show distrust for the government are basically viewed by the government as being a threat to national security and more or less seems to imply they should be viewed as domestic-terrorists.

This is what I was talking about on Page 5
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt332/JREFImages/Howardscripps.jpg

There's nothing in that snippet that even remotely suggests what you did in the first quote.

And if you feel that "...we don't think the evidence leads that way at all" is an indication that 9/11 conspiracy theorists are "viewed by the government as being a threat to national security" and "should be viewed as domestic-terrorists", you are... quite frankly... insane.

Just to be safe, please go see a psychologist. Seriously.

 

[JihadJane]

Yes, technically, it can. And technically, Antarctica is a desert, but a person who says he's "always wanted to visit the desert" is going to be rather disappointed when you hand him a ticket to the South Pole.

You asked me what I didn't understand about "the following statement" (singular). You then threw a wall of text at me that contained no less than seven wholly distinct ideas. Which one were you referring to?

The statement is the sum of its parts.

Good, define your terms in the most vague manner possible. That way you get to claim that you were right no matter what ends up happening! Whether there's a second American Revolution, or whether the only thing that happens is the IRS receives a slightly larger volume of angry letters than normal, you still get to claim that you were right! Ingenious!

May I borrow your technique? I would like to claim Randi's $1 mil prize by claiming the ability to predict the future, then proving it by telling him that "something vague may or may not happen at some unspecified point in the future". He can't possibly claim that I'm wrong!

Good luck. Perhaps it will help you realize that I'm not claiming to be able to predict the future. This appears to frustrate and confuse a lot of people, yourself included.

Whatever you post, and whatever you say in it, I don't care. But as I read other people's reaction, I can tell that I personally consider you as a bore. You desperately try to defend the twoof movement with your personal conception of the dictionary where you have pimped all the definitions, and then try to attack JREFers with these flawed definitions.

It also seems that you don't attack the JREFers on facts any more. You're just playing a child's game by saying "nah nee nah noo nah you are as despicable as the guys you criticize nah nee nah noo nah." And that's why I put you on ignore; because you don't bring ANYTHING to a discussion.

Thanks for your baby language outburst. I’m sorry that my interest in using words correctly bores you.

 

[funk de fino]

Good luck. Perhaps it will help you realize that I'm not claiming to be able to predict the future. This appears to frustrate and confuse a lot of people, yourself included..

Yet thats exactly what you do in most of your posts.

 

[jaydeehess]

I understood your GWB analogy.

Your conclusions are completely wrong and hallucinatory.

Actually you may not have intended for your original statement to mimic the leading nature that GWB used in his statements, however that is exactly what it did and your attempts to backpedal away and say that it is not so demonstrates something about your character. Hell just admit that your statement could in fact be easily read that way and offer a clarification.

 

[newton3376]

Perhaps you'd like to explain how "some doo doo may well become airborne and hit some fans" translates into "general uprisings".

Sure no problem...lets look at the history of your "vague" comment...

To start with lets remember the thread title/subject is "We will kill 9/11 CT skeptics after 9/11 Truth comes out."

This is the general context of discussions within this thread....

With this context in mind leftysergeant posted this...

Well, to be on the safe side, since I have about 10000 riubds if 7,62X54R and about 5000 rounds of '06, I suppose I should go ahead and see if I can find a good deal on .303 and 7.92, maybe a few hundred more rounds of .32 ACP and 9mm.

And Tweeter replied...

You sound like one of those guys from WACO. But anyways its good to know where to find ammo when the shtf.

Then Platypus remarked....

And exactly when is the crap supposed to hit the fan?

I been hearing that for years, none of the predictions from your cult have been even close to correct yet. the crap was supposed to hit the fan 37 times by now.

I remember years of predictions of how Bush was supposed to be the last president, doom and gloom about the end of america, martial law, NWO, overlord...etc... What happen to all that? Then as soon as we got to the end of Bush's terms, it's funny how quickly your cult dropped that, and now says the exact same crap over Obama...

Tweeter responded to this with....

Ive never predicted anything.All i said is, If and when it happens we know where the ammo is. On a further note could you please tell lefty to leave out these gun comments about truthers, its almost like he`s threatening to use guns which would be a rule violation.

And then abenja asked.....

So when is it going to happen?

And you, JihadJane, answered with this...

The US is still heading for a major economic crash. It remains to be seem whether the US public will become conscious enough to get angry about having been fleeced to the tune of trillions of dollars but some doo doo may well become airborne and hit some fans.

When? The economic indicators for this summer aren't too bright.

In case you didn't catch that JihadJane...I'll explain it for you since you don't seem to be very good at reading....

Let's start with Platypus....(I'll bold things to make it easier for you JJ)...

And exactly when is the crap supposed to hit the fan?

I been hearing that for years, none of the predictions from your cult have been even close to correct yet. the crap was supposed to hit the fan 37 times by now.

So what "crap" is being referred to here? Fortunately it is explicitly stated in that very post....

I remember years of predictions of how Bush was supposed to be the last president, doom and gloom about the end of america, martial law, NWO, overlord...etc...

Next lets look at what Tweeter replied...

Ive never predicted anything.All i said is, If and when it happens we know where the ammo is.

What is the "it" Tweeter is referring to?

The "it" is from the post from Platypus....
The "it" is:
"predictions of how Bush was supposed to be the last president, doom and gloom about the end of america, martial law, NWO, overlord...etc"

And abenja is referring to the same "it" when he/she said...

So when is it going to happen?

And then we have your stupid comments answering this question about the same "it" that we have defined in the context of this discussion...

The US is still heading for a major economic crash. It remains to be seem whether the US public will become conscious enough to get angry about having been fleeced to the tune of trillions of dollars but some doo doo may well become airborne and hit some fans.

When? The economic indicators for this summer aren't too bright.

Isn't context a wonderful thing?

Were you referring to "general uprisings"?

Edited by Locknar: 

Personal attacks do nothing to advance your position. Remember...its attack the argument, not the arguer.

 

[jaydeehess]

I have never seen "context" explained in such detail before. hopefully JJ can now understand how his statement does translate into "general uprising" even if he did not intend it as such.

However, I would like a clarification of exactly what he was referring to then.

 

[abenja1]

Wow. Thanks for providing context Ownage Newton. Hopefully now we'll get some real reasons from JJ and Tweeter.

 

[newton3376]

I have never seen "context" explained in such detail before. hopefully JJ can now understand how his statement does translate into "general uprising" even if he did not intend it as such.

However, I would like a clarification of exactly what he was referring to then.

That clarification would be interesting indeed....

 

[newton3376]

Wow. Thanks for providing context Ownage Newton. Hopefully now we'll get some real reasons from JJ and Tweeter.

No problem....this is one thing that tends to irritate me on debate forums...

We will see if we ever get any real answers from them....

 

[JimBenArm]

No problem....this is one thing that tends to irritate me on debate forums...

We will see if we ever get any real answers from them....

Yes, definitely hold your breath. I'm sure it's going to be coming soon.