RFID Chip

Ugh. This smacks of pure, uncut, medical-grade, weaponized DUMB.

Military can't say no, eh? Tell that to the folks who successfully resisted the supposed "mandatory" anthrax vaccination.

Ignorance of Subject + Wild Imagination + Anti-Establishment Bias = Conspiracy Theory.
 
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T.A.M. said:
oh my, oh my.

1. Sex Offenders...yah, not such a bad idea as they are scum.
2. Do you not think their would be strict guidelines for this, when and if it did pass? For instance, you have it implanted for the first 5 years post sentence, and then if no further incarcerations, you have it removed.
3. Military personnel, yah, not a bad idea either. A VOLUNTEER program where you have one inserted if you like. Once again, we are talking about LOCATING DEVICES!!!!
4. Once again, there would be strict rules in place, so that your chip was removed upon discharge/retirement.
5. Your "include everybody" scenario is just foolish. If you think such things are gonna happen, even remotely, go back to reading sci-fi novels and watching the matrix.

TAM:)
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Err, I can think of a population that would be ahead of sex offenders on the chip list, and they are certainly not a vilified one. It is home cared for elderly patients who suffer dementia or Alzheimer's disease that tend to get themselves lost and are at risk of injury or harm as they wander about often in inhospitable climes. Think how much easier it would be if you could easily keep track of your elderly mother should she take it in her head to stroll alongside the freeway in a blizzard whilst your back was turned fixing coffee. Such patients can take off as fast as toddlers.:eye-poppi
 
TjW said:
My bolding. No we're not, if we're talking about the VeriChip. It holds a few hundred bits (not bytes, bits) of information. It's passive, meaning it's powered by the interrogating device. It doesn't really "send out" a signal. It modulates by absorbing more or less of the carrier produced by the interrogator. Commercially-available readers read them at two or three inches. They're not going to be terribly useful as a tracking device.
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I wasn't speaking of what they are currently using, but rather speculating as to what I would consider a good idea. A chip used for locating someone, would be a good idea for some military personnel.

TAM:)
 
Nosi said:
Err, I can think of a population that would be ahead of sex offenders on the chip list, and they are certainly not a vilified one. It is home cared for elderly patients who suffer dementia or Alzheimer's disease that tend to get themselves lost and are at risk of injury or harm as they wander about often in inhospitable climes. Think how much easier it would be if you could easily keep track of your elderly mother should she take it in her head to stroll alongside the freeway in a blizzard whilst your back was turned fixing coffee. Such patients can take off as fast as toddlers.:eye-poppi
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agreed, and I hadn't thought of it...good idea. Once again, riddled with legal/personal freedom issues...but a good idea in theory.

TAM:)
 
A chip for locating military people that actively broadcast some kind of signal seems like it might sometimes be unproductive from a tactical perspective.
 
Minadin said:
I saw a documentary, or perhaps a news story, about a computer scientist who was developing a chip like this, and had already implanted himself with a prototype. The computers in his house tracked him with it while he was in the house or nearby and did things like turned the lights on and off, unlocked exterior doors remotely, and that sort of thing.

But, I don't remember where I saw it or precisely when; it was probably a few years ago.
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Kevin Warwick

There is a nightclub in Barcelona that will implant you with a chip that gives you access to VIP areas of the club and which you can use to buy drinks. Quite useful in a place where beachware is the norm. Why not as a necklace or a bracelet? Well, it makes it non-transferrable, but the main reason is that it's a useful gimmick.

It's highly unlikely that a Western government would make chipping mandatory. It's highly likely that a Western company like Visa will make it available. It's more likely that mobile phones will fill the cash gap in the short term.

Don't forget the government can track your mobile phone, folks. :tinfoil
 
richardm said:
Don't forget the government can track your mobile phone, folks. :tinfoil
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The government knows where my cell phone is?


Puts them one up on me.


Which highlights the problem with using this as a means of controlling the population.




I think there's a comic in there somewhere....
 
Red Three,

I was not saying that it's guaranteed to happen. I was speculating how it could happen.

I was not trying to start a new conspiracy theory
 
Minadin said:
A chip for locating military people that actively broadcast some kind of signal seems like it might sometimes be unproductive from a tactical perspective.
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Very likely correct, come to think of it.

Considering it would require some sort of frequency that can be monitored, it wouldn't be that difficult, most likely, for a foreign entity to monitor the same frequency if they can determine what it is and therefore get the location of our units and the likely strengths involved there.

On the plus side, prisoners of war would be less attractive, since they'd already know exactly how many people were there to kick their :rule10

(yes, that was a joke. :D)
 
richardm said:
Kevin Warwick
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the guy I was thinking about.

Sabrina said:
Very likely correct, come to think of it.

Considering it would require some sort of frequency that can be monitored, it wouldn't be that difficult, most likely, for a foreign entity to monitor the same frequency if they can determine what it is and therefore get the location of our units and the likely strengths involved there.

On the plus side, prisoners of war would be less attractive, since they'd already know exactly how many people were there to kick their :rule10

(yes, that was a joke. :D)
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If they could develop some sort of technology that was passive until called upon, that might work. I just can't see any way to do it with RFID or similar.
 
JimBenArm said:
No need to use the phone. Just speak clearly. We'll hear you.
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Not now. I have Miss Cleo on line 1, ordering a pizza on line 2, and LostAngeles won't stop calling line 3 for some reason.

If he calls in about five minutes, Jenkins can probably eaves it. If he's done arguing with that shrew of a wife by then.
 
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Squidgy said:
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/loca...rced_identity-chip_implants_clears_House.html

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If you get all in a tizzy about every odd sounding piece of legislation that emanates from State Representatives, consider this:

In Tennessee, it is illegal to hunt a whale from a moving car. Now at some point a government official decided it was a good idea to go ahead and present this legislation and it passed.

There aren't any whales in Tennessee, and there aren't any shadowy organizations waiting to shove a lo-jack up your ass.

Apparently, that's not going to stop either you or Rep Babbette Joseph from freaking out about it.

Next up: Abolishment of parking priveleges for armored chimpanzees on horseback.
 
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JoeyDonuts said:
If you get all in a tizzy about every odd sounding piece of legislation that emanates from State Representatives, consider this:

In Tennessee, it is illegal to hunt a whale from a moving car. Now at some point a government official decided it was a good idea to go ahead and present this legislation and it passed.

There aren't any whales in Tennessee, and there aren't any shadowy organizations waiting to shove a lo-jack up your ass.

Apparently, that's not going to stop either you or Rep Babbette Joseph from freaking out about it.

Next up: Abolishment of parking priveleges for armored chimpanzees on horseback.
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I didn't freak out at all. I just wondered why a bill was needed for a ban on forced chipping.
Me getting in a tizzy would be like: HOLY FRICKING MOLY, THEY WANNA CHIP EVERYONE!!! WRITE TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN AAAARG.

But I didn't do that so trust me when I say I was calm.
 
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Squidgy said:
I didn't freak out at all. I just wondered why a bill was needed for a ban on forced chipping.
Me getting in a tizzy would be like: HOLY FRICKING MOLY, THEY WANNA CHIP EVERYONE!!! WRITE TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN AAAARG.

But I didn't do that so trust me when I say I was calm.
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Not every piece of legislation makes sense. Add this one to the pile.
 
Thanks for the info. I will be sure not to do any drive-by whaling next time I have few too many JD's in Tenessee.
 
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