RFID Chip

[Praktik]

These guys are pretty serious about RFID.

They leafletted my apartment and that of my gf.

DON'T GET CHIPPED BY SAURIANS!!

 

[Sunray Breaker]

I think ignorant is a tad harsh. I have been following conspiracy theories for a while and now I am trying to eliminate the BS that go's with them.
If you don't have a constructive answer don't reply please. A straight out insult is a waste of yours and my time.

My sentiments exactly. I'm a recovering CT myself and I think harsh replies like that are what keep a lot of CT's from waking up...

I can speak from personal experience. I came here looking for some Zeitgeist debunkery and almost closed the window and never came back, all because I was sick of people insulting my intellgience, instead of constructively criticizing my questions.

So please folks, as I said before, this is not 4chan with a brain...It's a great place to have a serious debate. Lets try behaving like adults shall we?

As far as the RFID chip. I don't really know much RELIABLE info on it. I've heard plenty of CT's about it.

Apparently these Countries already put RFID in passports:
Norway (2005), Japan (March 1, 2006), most EU countries (around 2006) including Ireland and UK, Australia and the United States (2007), Serbia (July 2008), Republic of Korea (August 2008), Albania (January 2009).

Of course, this is according to wikipedia, so I could be lying and not even know it.

 

[Squidgy]

My sentiments exactly. I'm a recovering CT myself and I think harsh replies like that are what keep a lot of CT's from waking up...

I can speak from personal experience. I came here looking for some Zeitgeist debunkery and almost closed the window and never came back, all because I was sick of people insulting my intellgience, instead of constructively criticizing my questions.

So please folks, as I said before, this is not 4chan with a brain...It's a great place to have a serious debate. Lets try behaving like adults shall we?

As far as the RFID chip. I don't really know much RELIABLE info on it. I've heard plenty of CT's about it.

Apparently these Countries already put RFID in passports:
Norway (2005), Japan (March 1, 2006), most EU countries (around 2006) including Ireland and UK, Australia and the United States (2007), Serbia (July 2008), Republic of Korea (August 2008), Albania (January 2009).

Of course, this is according to wikipedia, so I could be lying and not even know it.

Don't close the window dude, we are unique in understanding the mind set of CT'S. Well not so unique now because there are two of us here now but I'm sure you know what I mean.

 

[Horatius]

I didn't freak out at all. I just wondered why a bill was needed for a ban on forced chipping.

The problem is with the word "needed". It wasn't needed, but someone somewhere thought it might be useful.

[Interior, Legislator's Office]

Staffer: Sir, we've been receiving inquiries from voters about our plans to inject them with RFID chips

Legislator: What plan? Chips? What are you talking about?

S: Apparently, some people think that we plan to force them to have chips installed in their bodies so we can track them, or something. I've gotten 3 e-mails today about it.

L:Track them? Why would anyone do that?

S: I don't know, but they seem very insistent that someone plans to do that.

L: Do these guys vote?

S: Some of them do, yeah. Usually for Ron Paul.

L: Well, should be easy to poach those votes. What do they want me to do about it?

S: They want a law making this activity illegal.

L: So, if I sponsor a law making an action I have no interest in in taking illegal, I can get a few more votes next election?

S: Yeah, pretty much.

L: Well, the last vote count was pretty close to 50-50, so **** it, let's write something up for these guys. Hey, a vote's a vote!

S: Very good, sir.

Don't close the window dude, we are unique in understanding the mind set of CT'S. Well not so unique now because there are two of us here now but I'm sure you know what I mean.

Must ... Not ... Stundie....

 

[Squidgy]

Must ... Not ... Stundie....

lol thanks

 

[Squidgy]

Don't close the window dude, we are unique in understanding the mind set of CT'S. Well not so unique now because there are two of us here now but I'm sure you know what I mean.

The queerest thing that I have ever said

 

[Hourglassmemory]

Don't close the window dude, we are unique in understanding the mind set of CT'S. Well not so unique now because there are two of us here now but I'm sure you know what I mean.

You two are not the only ones.
I'm one of them too, but my "converstion" happened a while ago. I joined in April 2007.
I consider myself totally clean from woo. And I'm only 19.
My poor brian has gone through quite a roller coaster ride, but I'm greatful for it.
It truly does give you an informed perspective.
I wonder if the people who've been involved in the conspiracy fad will slowly start coming more to the centre, and then to the skeptic side.
Though I feel very sad that some people from my generation will stick with this nonsense for the rest of their lifes. It's very heartbreaking.

This forum will always be here though...

 

[Squidgy]

You two are not the only ones.
I'm one of them too, but my "converstion" happened a while ago. I joined in April 2007.
I consider myself totally clean from woo. And I'm only 19.
My poor brian has gone through quite a roller coaster ride, but I'm greatful for it.
It truly does give you an informed perspective.
I wonder if the people who've been involved in the conspiracy fad will slowly start coming more to the centre, and then to the skeptic side.
Though I feel very sad that some people from my generation will stick with this nonsense for the rest of their lifes. It's very heartbreaking.

This forum will always be here though...

Great post. thanks

 

[T.A.M.]

critical thinking is not an inherited trait, and some develop it sooner then others. We can only hope that as the majority of the truth movement gets older, they will realize how silly they have been, and return to the real world.

TAM

 

[Dan O.]

If you know you've been chipped there are effective means to shield the chip to render it neutral. Covert tracking requires chipping the target without their knowledge. You can't just stick someone with a needle or claim you are giving them a vitamin shot because the smallest chips are still about the size of a grain of rice so it requires a really big needle and leaves a lump that can be felt under the skin.

Tracking cell phones is quite effective. I recently used Google Latitude to let my family follow my travels from thousands of miles away. But unless the phone has a GPS the resolution is limited. It's easy enough though to leave your personal phone at home and pick up a pre-paid phone for covert operations.

You may already be carrying RFID chips and not know it. Modern cars have a security chip built into the ignition key. Credit cards and ID cards can have the chips built in. Many consumer items use RFID tags for inventory tracking. When's the last time you had your personal possessions scanned for bugs? You might be surprised.

 

[JimBenArm]

If you know you've been chipped there are effective means to shield the chip to render it neutral. Covert tracking requires chipping the target without their knowledge. You can't just stick someone with a needle or claim you are giving them a vitamin shot because the smallest chips are still about the size of a grain of rice so it requires a really big needle and leaves a lump that can be felt under the skin.

Tracking cell phones is quite effective. I recently used Google Latitude to let my family follow my travels from thousands of miles away. But unless the phone has a GPS the resolution is limited. It's easy enough though to leave your personal phone at home and pick up a pre-paid phone for covert operations.

You may already be carrying RFID chips and not know it. Modern cars have a security chip built into the ignition key. Credit cards and ID cards can have the chips built in. Many consumer items use RFID tags for inventory tracking. When's the last time you had your personal possessions scanned for bugs? You might be surprised.

Every time I scan for bugs all I get is roaches and ants, with the occasional junebug thrown in. I feel cheated.

 

[TjW]

Every time I scan for bugs all I get is roaches and ants, with the occasional junebug thrown in. I feel cheated.

Maybe your dog would share his fleas.

 

[tsig]

A chip for locating military people that actively broadcast some kind of signal seems like it might sometimes be unproductive from a tactical perspective.

Same argument for the passive chip. Your enemy could get chip readers. You wouldn't even have to be conscious to be interrogated.

 

[tsig]

oh my, oh my.

1. Sex Offenders...yah, not such a bad idea as they are scum.
2. Do you not think their would be strict guidelines for this, when and if it did pass? For instance, you have it implanted for the first 5 years post sentence, and then if no further incarcerations, you have it removed.
3. Military personnel, yah, not a bad idea either. A VOLUNTEER program where you have one inserted if you like. Once again, we are talking about LOCATING DEVICES!!!!
4. Once again, there would be strict rules in place, so that your chip was removed upon discharge/retirement.
5. Your "include everybody" scenario is just foolish. If you think such things are gonna happen, even remotely, go back to reading sci-fi novels and watching the matrix.

TAM

Maybe there could be some kind of bracelet that goes on the ankle and tells authorities you have left your house?

 

[Squidgy]

Carcastic bas**rd

 

[Elizabeth I]

Every time I scan for bugs all I get is roaches and ants, with the occasional junebug thrown in. I feel cheated.

Or waterbugs...ugh!

 

[ktesibios]

Tracking cell phones is quite effective. I recently used Google Latitude to let my family follow my travels from thousands of miles away. But unless the phone has a GPS the resolution is limited. It's easy enough though to leave your personal phone at home and pick up a pre-paid phone for covert operations.

I have a gps navigation app for my cell phone. The "where am I?" option, which gets my location via gps and displays is on a map is usually pretty good, but sometimes it's off by as much as half a mile.

You may already be carrying RFID chips and not know it. Modern cars have a security chip built into the ignition key. Credit cards and ID cards can have the chips built in. Many consumer items use RFID tags for inventory tracking. When's the last time you had your personal possessions scanned for bugs? You might be surprised.

I have two that I know about in my pockets right now. One is part of an electronic access-control system we use at work to enter the building and a secure equipment storage room, and the other is in my American Express Blue card- the PC antenna and chip are clearly visible in the transparent card

 

[T.A.M.]

Maybe there could be some kind of bracelet that goes on the ankle and tells authorities you have left your house?

grrrr....

Yes that is fine for felons. I suppose we could do the same with military and children, but bracelets can be removed, and they carry a stigma.

Can you see it...

"oh look, little john is a bracey! Hey bracey, mommy is looking for ya!"

or while out on patrol,

"look searg, paulie got himself a bracelet. What's the matter Paulie, afraid mommy won't find you?"

may sound silly, but I think a small chip planted where no one can see it would be more tolerable...but that is just M.O.

TAM

 

[Bobert]

I think ignorant is a tad harsh. I have been following conspiracy theories for a while and now I am trying to eliminate the BS that go's with them.
If you don't have a constructive answer don't reply please. A straight out insult is a waste of yours and my time.

Do you believe the US government or any government has plans to physically implant chips into us?
How do you think they would do it?

 

[Bobert]

grrrr....

Yes that is fine for felons. I suppose we could do the same with military and children, but bracelets can be removed, and they carry a stigma.

Can you see it...

"oh look, little john is a bracey! Hey bracey, mommy is looking for ya!"

or while out on patrol,

"look searg, paulie got himself a bracelet. What's the matter Paulie, afraid mommy won't find you?"

may sound silly, but I think a small chip planted where no one can see it would be more tolerable...but that is just M.O.

TAM

In the US ankle bracelets are used to keep tabs on those placed on, "house arrest" is what he was referring to. Not sure how they do it up there on the hat of the US.