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Give autodidacts and independent learners a chance

I am not the one trying to convince people to get off the beaten path :)

Nor am I quoting myself with a new line of argument under that...

But we still have quite a few open items in this thread. So I will give you some time to gather them all and answer them all.
 
Holler Hoojer said:
??? Product liability companies are quasi-nationalized? Please provide some evidence.
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States set pricing for insurance. States limit how many insurance companies are allowed to do business.

paladin, I answered that post... you just forgot to look.
 
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lightfire22000 said:
Nor in yours.

The only time I had ever heard the hammer/nail saying before was in comp-sci, I think it was Jonathan Schwartz, but I'm not sure.
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lightfire22000 said:
When did I ever claim originality? The main ideas aren't mine.
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Surely a new high in poster brilliance. lightfire rebuts himself! Don't miss a thrill-packed episode - don't turn that dial. Stay right here in this thread to keep up-to-the-minute.
 
Holler Hoojer said:
Many of us who teach adults allow for different learning styles. But, are you perhaps criticizing teaching styles? That's a different story and not necessarily open to the student to dictate.

What nanotech lab has any use for JD scientists? A PhD in engineering or material science is generally the best credential. You can always hire lawyers and physicians as needed. Can you please provide some specifics?
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Research is shifting more and more towards being based around patents. The patent lawyers are taking a more active role in research.
 
SezMe said:
Surely a new high in poster brilliance. lightfire rebuts himself! Don't miss a thrill-packed episode - don't turn that dial. Stay right here in this thread to keep up-to-the-minute.
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Uhhh, you're going to have to show where I claimed my ideas were original if you're going to say that without being a complete retard. In your case, originality is a bad thing. It's usually called slander or on a web forum, possibly libel.
 
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SezMe said:
Surely a new high in poster brilliance. lightfire rebuts himself! Don't miss a thrill-packed episode - don't turn that dial. Stay right here in this thread to keep up-to-the-minute.
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Yup. The UI is somewhat complex for this man. But he is a fun way to while away the hours; he is of the ilk 'give him enough rope...'.

The other thread starring him is also extremely funny.
 
Don't spend so much time 'chatting'. Spend more time on outdoing the historian and answering the other open questions.

I can be condescending again if I have to look for them and bring them to your attention. At least government tests would not allow you to skip questions.
 
lightfire22000 said:
That's not hard to do once you find the context of the article and quote. Give me any historical article on US History and most on Medieval Europe. Let's see what I can do with it. I bet I can top your "historian" by providing a more disinterested contextual view.
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EDIT: A shorter article than the first I'd posted is probably more ideal for the purpose: http://66.102.1.104/scholar?hl=en&l.../viewArticle/39+development+of+medieval+armor

My apologies for taking so long to get back to you on this matter.

~ Matt
 
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lightfire22000 said:
Uhhh, you're going to have to show where I claimed my ideas were original if you're going to say that without being a complete retard. In your case, originality is a bad thing. It's usually called slander or on a web forum, possibly libel.
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Libel if he writes it, slander if he says it.



BUT that only applies if A) he knows it to be untrue and B) it causes you financial or related harm.


Since we do not know who you are, neither A nor B apply.
 
I find myself confronted by an interesting paradox: If lightfire22000 has convinced me of his correctness, then clearly my first order of business is to get a good reference for him from a referral agency. But if I have not yet gotten that referral, how can he have convinced me that he's right?
 
theprestige said:
I find myself confronted by an interesting paradox: If lightfire22000 has convinced me of his correctness, then clearly my first order of business is to get a good reference for him from a referral agency. But if I have not yet gotten that referral, how can he have convinced me that he's right?
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Easy, set up your referral agency. Use a friends address as Corp HQ (a postbox in a business address), refer yourself and the other 5 family members\friends as "Top notch, 10 out of 10". Plan for the fact that you're only going to be there a month or two. Once your time is up close the business and celebrate by dining on Big Macs\Kraft Mac N Cheese for a week then open up a new referral agency.

Rinse, repeat.
 
MattC said:
EDIT: A shorter article than the first I'd posted is probably more ideal for the purpose: http://66.102.1.104/scholar?hl=en&l.../viewArticle/39+development+of+medieval+armor

My apologies for taking so long to get back to you on this matter.

~ Matt
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I forget exactly what you want me to write on the article, but essentially the altered nature of warfare spurred by increased productivity and decentralization led to the inexorable evolution of the helmet.

I'm pretty busy during this part of the week so I'll give a more thorough answer later. I'll also go back and check the thread to see what exactly you want.
 
lightfire22000 said:
If someone could do as good a job on a project as a competing employee but would work for a much cheaper rate, then hiring that person is advantageous. Unconventionally and effectively educated individuals would work for lower rates right now since fewer people would hire them.
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All you can prove is that you're unconventionally educated. You have no way to prove that you're effectively educated. You're asking companies to take a hell of a gamble on you, and it's going to cost them far more money than they'd save on your lower salary (see HR policies on background checks and benefits setup).

I've been Bangalored.* There are LOTS of people who claim to be just as good as me at my job and will do it for pennies on the dollar. So far, the outcome is not proving their point. And I'm sick of being taunted about it in broken English. These people are, largely, NOT accredited here. They ARE accredited in their own country. They are almost unintelligible in English. What you're advocating sounds like more of the same to me, and I'm already not liking the results I'm seeing from it.

* I specify because this is where the jobs in my field have gone; there may be other countries involved, but I have no experience with them. Jobs in my field are often posted from India and located in India for American companies. Yes, I know this is anecdotal. Go to LinkedIn and look up Technical Writers to see what's going on.

My apologies to anyone who is offended by my blunt speech. I am not trying to single out the whole country. I am referring specifically to the individuals from that country who are involved in my field and who are demonstrating that they are not qualified to perform the work.
 
But here's the thing. His major claim is about certain specific professions that require a degree for certification. His feeling is that without government requirements, the market will be able to reap the benefits of unconventionally educated diamonds in the rough.

But as it stands, the market itself won't hire people without degrees. How many professional level positions is lack of a degree not a huge liability in trying to get hired?
 
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