no serial numbers were identified from flight 77

[Cuddles]

Continuing the bickering, personal attacks and derails is likely to result in more severe mod action for many of you, up to and including suspensions and bans.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Cuddles

 

[doobiedoright]

NO the evindece was used in a trial not a crime scene investigation.

dude did you really just say that?
you cant be this thick?
Please tell us what evidence was used if not the evidence from the crime scene?
This proves roger is just here to incite and should be evidence for his removal from this great place!

 

[bje]

Wrong agiain.

The reason we cannot get serial numbers through FOIA request is that the serial numbers are being used in the investigation.

And you admitted that you don't need serial numbers to know ID the jet as AA787.

Sheesh, Ultima 1, give it up. You already admitted last year the jet that crashed into the Pentagon was AA77.

 

[BenBurch]

No comments on the lack of Serial Numbers in the 592 report?

 

[twinstead]

This is the most vapid thread ever.

 

[BCR]

Continuing the bickering, personal attacks and derails is likely to result in more severe mod action for many of you, up to and including suspensions and bans.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Cuddles

Then ban me. If you are going to allow 34 pages of nonsense by a troll and then get upset because we object to him, then knock yiourself out.

 

[BenBurch]

Then ban me. If you are going to allow 34 pages of nonsense by a troll and then get upset because we object to him, then knock yiourself out.

I concur that it is the TROLLING that is the issue here.

You can't allow that and then expect honest people to shut up about it forever.

Trolling is not "friendly."

 

[TJM]

Since the motion to close the thread was sent to the trash, the next option is to stop posting in it. This is my last post here, let the trolls have it.

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Guys, guys, c'mon. Pleas don't get yourselves banned just because Ultima's found buttons to push. I miss Pomeroo already; I don't want to see other people go. It's possible for the rest of us to have substantive conversations on these topics. Just stick Ultima on ignore. He's already proven over and over that he brings nothing factual to the threads he participates in. No one will miss anything by ignoring him.

 

[A W Smith]

Oh it hurts so bad. You really got me there. I think I'll just slink away in embarrassment and never come back again.

lol

You expose nothing but your talent at getting reported for personal attacks with a side of the same kind of irrelevant nonsense I've already beaten into submission numurous times in this very thread.

Did you read it? The whole thing? I bet you didn't. Or maybe you did and that's what really offends you so much.

I have never claimed flight 77 didn't exist with seat assignments, passengers, and planned flight paths.

Identify the object that hit Shanksville, Tower 1, Tower 2, but first start with the topic of the op.

77

You haven't identified anything that crashed on 9/11 as 77 yet nor has any other fraud in this forum or any court anywhere.

did you read the thread title? the whole thing? what does it say HI?

no serial numbers were identified from flight 77

Yes I read every post in this thread HI. And in not one of them has anyone proved that the numbers were NOT identified. The numbers may not have been made publicly available. But that does not in of itself mean that they were not identified. Now are you going to step up to the plate and prove the assertion of the op?



I thought not.

You can slink off now

Thanks
debunked

/close thread/

 

[Jackanory]

Then ban me. If you are going to allow 34 pages of nonsense by a troll and then get upset because we object to him, then knock yiourself out.

Me too. I have already asked the Mods to ban this troll. He can continue to throw childish jibes such as 'too childish' , 'not adult enough', 'closed minded', 'calls most liars', etc etc etc . He brings nothing here. Ban him or let him derail every single thread here, as you are.

 

[beachnut]

No serial numbers are needed to identify Flight 77; we all knew on 911 which plane it was and the DNA made it legal for identifying the passenger's deaths.

This is the dumbest idea from the cult of 911 delusions.

don't quote the troll; report the troll
don't quote the SPAM; report the spam

don't quote the troll; post our ideas with the OP in mind; find an idea you like and explain it; Go Jog until you can't remembers how dumb the posts of HI and Ultima1 are; they will be here to read when you want to see pure stupid.

When the cut and paste, don't quote them, that the source and discuss it.

I love the RADAR tracks; 77 was tracked the whole way and it was taped. So on 911 ATC had no idea who 77 was, but his trail was on record and he would be known quickly. I have asked for radar information on my mishap aircraft and we had it the next day or so; very fast; or I forgot and we spent a long time in South Carolina.

So if you know this is 77 and you have a big fire ball from an aircraft crash at the end of the path of 77; what plane caused the impact. And you have all the tracks of all planes on 911; all the planes.

The trolls lost, there is no regulation that requires serial numbers to be used to identify any of the flights on 911.

We have people who are ignorant on this issue trying to make an issue. What happen to their quest for truth? They ask for a new investigation but can't figure out what planes crashed when it is common knowledge; this is pure insanity on the part of those making up stupid ideas like the serial number delusion. Don't quote the troll post evidence. Report him.

 

[ULTIMA1]

Read it! On 911 all the aircraft were tracked to their crash sites by RADAR. You must of missed the evidence.

You must be the worst investigator ever.

Radar cannot prove ID of an aircraft in a criminal investigation.

 

[ULTIMA1]

No serial numbers are needed to identify Flight 77; we all knew on 911 which plane it was and the DNA made it legal for identifying the passenger's deaths.

You must be the worst investigator.

DNA does not verify ID of a plane for a criminal investiagtion, thats why the NTSB was called in.

 

[BenBurch]

You must be the worst investigator.

DNA does not verify ID of a plane for a criminal investiagtion, thats why the NTSB was called in.

WTF?

NTSB does not do anything other than determine how an accident happened for purposes of seeing to it that it either never happens again, or that it would be more survivable if it does.

How can you justify your boast that you are a soooper-seekrit g-man and still reveal that you don't even know what a major governmental agency does?

To quote from their mission statement;

The National Transportation Safety Board is an independent Federal agency charged by Congress with investigating every civil aviation accident in the United States and significant accidents in the other modes of transportation -- railroad, highway, marine and pipeline -- and issuing safety recommendations aimed at preventing future accidents. The Safety Board determines the probable cause of:

• all U.S. civil aviation accidents and certain public-use aircraft accidents;
• selected highway accidents;
• railroad accidents involving passenger trains or any train accident that results in at least one fatality or major property damage;
• major marine accidents and any marine accident involving a public and a nonpublic vessel;
• pipeline accidents involving a fatality or substantial property damage;
• releases of hazardous materials in all forms of transportation; and
• selected transportation accidents that involve problems of a recurring nature.

 

[ULTIMA1]

WTF?
NTSB does not do anything other than determine how an accident happened for purposes of seeing to it that it either never happens again, or that it would be more survivable if it does.

As stated in sources the NTSB was called in to verify parts and ID planes.

 

[RedIbis]

When the cut and paste, don't quote them, that the source and discuss it.

What is this, the e.e. cummings of debunking?

 

[BenBurch]

BTW, another civics lesson. "Proof" in a criminal investigation is what ever the judge allows into evidence and which the jury will accept as probative. A judge has a very, very wide latitude in making such a determination, and juries even more.

However, in this case you can likely determine the result by applying a "reasonable man" test to it; If a reasonable person would accept that a crash scene containing parts from a 757 and DNA of people known to have boarded a particular missing 757 and where the CVR and FDR and ground radar tracks all correspond to that particular missing 757 indicates that aircraft crashed on that spot, you have a case.

And this one would pass the test with almost any judge and almost any jury, and you would have a conviction assuming you could tie your suspect to the initial hijack plot.

How hard was that?

Mr. Grieves taught us all this in junior year civics in high school.

 

[lapman]

As stated in sources the NTSB was called in to verify parts and ID planes.

For?

 

[BenBurch]

As stated in sources the NTSB was called in to verify parts and ID planes.

Its not their mission, though likely they were helping out, as were all levels of government at that time.

Remember that we had FOUR planes missing that day, and initially we were not exactly sure which one hit where. But by the time the internal serial numbers were taken out of the charred CVRs, we knew.

So, they verified the aircraft by serial numbers, just as you clowns keep demanding. How hard is that?