no serial numbers were identified from flight 77

[Jackanory]

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As stated witnesses are not very relaiable sources.

Does that go for all the witnesses you refer too to back up your claims Roger?

 

[ULTIMA1]

QUOTE=Gavron;4726300]His own link said the FBI was moving to the north parking lot, to sift thru debris for evidence.

Haha![/QUOTE]

Yep. For every 10 duff posts he makes, the 11th one is sure to refute all said previous posts. Classic stuff from Roger Misner the NSA analyst who's spelling is worse than mine.

Sorry but sifting through evidence in the parking lot is not working the crime scnene that was the Pentagon.

Oh you have conceded to the infomration since you cannot debate the sources.

 

[Gavron]

No they were doing other things but they were not working on the crime scene as sources show.

They weire sifting thru the debbris for evidence, as your own source shows.

Pretty funny when your own source proves you wrong.

 

[Jackanory]

they weire sifting thru the debbris for evidence, as your own source shows.

Pretty funny when your own source proves you wrong.

again

 

[BigAl]

believers



Most of the tones of evidence can be debunked.

As stated witnesses are not very relaiable sources.

Which is why all the physical evidence and witnesses and expert testimony and forensics are considered as a whole and the preponderance of evidence wins.

The vast preponderance of evidence shows that AA77 hit the Pentagon.

Evidence to the contrary verges on zero. What there is doesn't discredit the basic story.

Nothing that might be found in any FOIA response will change the basic story; AA77 and three other jets were hijacked by Islamists and crashed into 3 buildings.

 

[tsig]

As stated by several sources the FBI stopped woking on the crim scene on Sept. 26.



Not working the crime scene.

how do you not work?

Is that when you plant evidence and unanalyze the results?

Maybe you erase reports?

 

[Gaspode]

Another split to AAH.

Keep it civil please. Attack the argument, not the arguer.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Gaspode

 

[BigAl]

After reading nearly 35 pages, ULTIMA1 reminds me of this skit from Kids in the Hall:

Here's what I think of when U1 dodges and weaves.

Cute Kitty whack-A-mole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_udqEp_YR4​

 

[Alt+F4]

Do you have the serial number that matches the FDR to AA77? If not then you do not know if the FDR is from AA77.

Sorry but passenger DNA does not ID the plane no matter how hard you hope.

Again, have you contacted American Airlines with this information? I'm certain they would be very interested.

 

[BirdyBuddy]

Most of the tones of evidence can be debunked.

You say "most" here. Please show us what of that evidence you find do acceptable.

And I'd like to ask again for qualify what kind of proof you would find acceptable. Maybe if you could give a specific example of what you would expect to see. Please don't ask for a source that has not been made available yet. Be clear in telling us what you expect!

As you have previously not answered, and until you can give an unambiguous answer, I feel I can safely presume you will accept no other evidence other than serial numbers that may or may not exist in unreleased documents.

 

[Jackanory]

You say "most" here. Please show us what of that evidence you find do acceptable.

And I'd like to ask again for qualify what kind of proof you would find acceptable. Maybe if you could give a specific example of what you would expect to see. Please don't ask for a source that has not been made available yet. Be clear in telling us what you expect!

As you have previously not answered, and until you can give an unambiguous answer, I feel I can safely presume you will accept no other evidence other than serial numbers that may or may not exist in unreleased documents.[/QUOTE]

Twoofer would lable it as fake anyway

 

[Homeland Insurgency]

you lose troll

All four flights identified. seat assignments. flight paths. this presentation was used in a court of law, Too bad for you HI.

http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/flights/P200018.html

Download the file and Click on the time line in the presentation HI. its gonna ruin your day. Yes.. used in court. Not overturned or contested. I enjoy so much exposing truther trolls for the jackasses they are

Oh it hurts so bad. You really got me there. I think I'll just slink away in embarrassment and never come back again.

lol

You expose nothing but your talent at getting reported for personal attacks with a side of the same kind of irrelevant nonsense I've already beaten into submission numurous times in this very thread.

Did you read it? The whole thing? I bet you didn't. Or maybe you did and that's what really offends you so much.

I have never claimed flight 77 didn't exist with seat assignments, passengers, and planned flight paths.

Identify the object that hit Shanksville, Tower 1, Tower 2, but first start with the topic of the op.

77

You haven't identified anything that crashed on 9/11 as 77 yet nor has any other fraud in this forum or any court anywhere.

 

[Arus808]

HI, you ever heard of logical deduction. you may want to use it.

 

[Tricky]

A bunch more posts moved to AAH.

As silly as this thread is with the mutual claims for evidene, I am loathe to move the whole thing to AAH since people have spent so much time on it. But unless you cut out the personal attacks and off topic "observations" about believers and troofers, I don't predict a long life for it.

I'm leaving most of the "did too" "did not" posts, but that's pretty generous. Clean up your act folks.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Tricky

 

[TexasJack]

Homeland Insurgency? How am I supposed to know that's TWA 800 without a matched serial number? And how about a tail, or wings, or a wheel...where are they? I'm very skeptical of this shining example of "how terrorist downed planes were investigated in the past".

HI, you going to answer this question?

 

[BirdyBuddy]

That would be the topic of this thread where I am still in the dark about your contribution.

As I said, I'd be happy to clarify, if only you could tell me specifically where your confusion lies.

Good. What's the difference?

If that is a legitimate question, I say a new thread can be started. If you are confused, maybe this isn't the right thread for you.

So serial number identification and what hit the pentagon are two different threads. Okay.

Can you point me to the right thread and is it on the way to the bar?

I suspect you are perfectly capable of finding it yourself without any help from little unknown me.

 

[TexasJack]

Read the reports and investigations that have so much more information then any of the four flights involved in the worse day in aviation history.

All I want is serial number HI to match to TWA 800. Got one? Shouldn't be hard, so produce one, or according to you, it isn't TWA 800. BTW, you posted the picture remember, now back it up with a serial number.

 

[BenBurch]

How do we know they got ValuJet 592 out of that swamp, and not some other aircraft?

http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/1997/aar9706.pdf

The serial numbers of the oxygen generators figure heavily in this sad story, and some of those SNs were recovered from the wreck, but other than a routine mention of the airframe SN and both engine SNs, no mention is made that any serial numbers were looked at to verify that this was 592.

It would appear that the fact that 592 was missing, had sent a distress call, and that the CVR/FDR matched that plane was definitive.

Pretty reckless, wouldn't you say?

What do you make of that, eh?

Was this a dastardly plot to replace 592 with a doppelganger?

 

[TJM]

IF YOU HAD ANY KNOWLEDGE OF AIRCRAFT INVESTIGATIONS YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THE REASON WE CANNOT GET THE SERIAL NUMBERS THROUGH FOIA REQUEST IS THAT THE SERIAL NUMBERS ARE BEING USED IN THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION TO ID THE PLANES.

That answers the OP right there and ULTIMA1 even gets the last word, undeservedly so.

/THREAD.

 

[beachnut]

http://www.911blogger.com/node/13149
By document labeled "Remarks of Carol Carmody Vice-Chairman, National Transportation Safety Board Leadership in Times of Crisis Seminar", it is indicated that the director of the FBI requested that the NTSB "help identify aircraft parts" belonging to the said aircraft.

By document labeled "Testimony of Marion C. Blakey, Chairman National Transportation Safety Board before the Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation United States Senate", it is indicated that the NTSB assisted the FBI with the process of "aircraft parts identification" regarding the said aircraft.

"Yes. NTSB investigators rarely encounter a scenario when the identification of an accident aircraft is not apparent. But during those occasions, investigators will record serial numbers of major components, and then contact the manufacturer of those components in an attempt to determine what aircraft the component was installed upon."

The above cited method of identification was apparently required to obtain the positive identifications of American Airlines flight 11 and United Airlines flight 175, which crashed into the World Trade Center towers.

You proved on 911 we need no serial numbers; the RADAR track identifies 11 and 175. You messed up and used some moronic tripe from a lair.

Real evidence beats the moronic ideas of your failed source.

911Blogger is the best place to find moronic tripe on 911; you found it! How do you find these failed ideas? Is it your NSA training?

when the identification of an accident aircraft is not apparent

Read it! On 911 all the aircraft were tracked to their crash sites by RADAR. You must of missed the evidence.

http://www.ntsb.gov/info/foia_fri.htm evidence! what you deny.