Thermitic Pyrotechnics in the WTC Made Simple

[leftysergeant]

When steel buildings catch on fire, does the paint, computers, filing cabinets, and combustible cleaning fluids heat up to 1535 degrees C. and collapse the structure?

Yes.

 

[A W Smith]

This is a common event, right?

Not only is it a common event, it's a given. And it is why steel is protected from exposure to fire by fireproofing.

 

[Galileo]

Yes.

so the fire was hot enough to melt steel?

 

[Galileo]

Not only is it a common event, it's a given. And it is why steel is protected from exposure to fire by fireproofing.

Besides the WTC, what other steel buildings have burst into thermite reactions from office fires?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

so the fire was hot enough to melt steel?

it doesnt have to be hot enough to melt steel to make it collapse, in 7 years i had hoped the truthers would learn at least this much

Besides the WTC, what other steel buildings have burst into thermite reactions from office fires?

no thermite reaction occurred, and harrit failed to prove his paint chips produced a thermite reaction by burning then in the presence of oxygen

 

[Arus808]

so the fire was hot enough to melt steel?

dont know why this is important, because steel doesn't need to melt, in order to lose it strength. in fact, heat (from any source) only need to reach 50-60% of steel's melting to point to start a global failure

YOU know this Galileo.

 

[Galileo]

it doesnt have to be hot enough to melt steel to make it collapse, in 7 years i had hoped the truthers would learn at least this much


no thermite reaction occurred, and harrit failed to prove his paint chips produced a thermite reaction by burning then in the presence of oxygen

The other JREFer just said it was. He said that when paint burns it gets as hot as thermite.

Make up your minds!

 

[Galileo]

dont know why this is important, because steel doesn't need to melt, in order to lose it strength. in fact, heat (from any source) only need to reach 50-60% of steel's melting to point to start a global failure

YOU know this Galileo.

leftysergeant says it gets to 1535 C.

 

[Arus808]

leftysergeant says it gets to 1535 C.

Actually, his reply didn't mean what you thought it means, and this is partly because YOU dont read to understand, but only READ to attack points. YOU are arguing tWo different points at the same time and attributing one to cause the other, when That isn't the case.

PAINT can cause TEMPERATURES to reach very high when it STARTS burning. THAT has no bearing on the fact that STEEL only needs to be heated to 50-60% of its melting point to weaken enough to cause global failure

The fact that paint AN ALL THE OTHER COMBUStIBLEs in the TOWERS cause the fires to reach TEMPERATURES about 50-60% of the melting point of the steel trusses, IS what matters.


Stop taking a complex situation and thinking that ONLY 1 thing caused the towers to collapse, WHEN ITS A MULTITUDE of factors that were involved.


there has been MANY building fires that demonstrate this; the WTC towers were not the ONLY buildings to fail because of fire.

 

[Galileo]

Actually, his reply didn't mean what you thought it means, and this is partly because YOU dont read to understand, but only READ to attack points. YOU are arguing tWo different points at the same time and attributing one to cause the other, when That isn't the case.

PAINT can cause TEMPERATURES to reach very high when it STARTS burning. THAT has no bearing on the fact that STEEL only needs to be heated to 50-60% of its melting point to weaken enough to cause global failure

The fact that paint AN ALL THE OTHER COMBUStIBLEs in the TOWERS cause the fires to reach TEMPERATURES about 50-60% of the melting point of the steel trusses, IS what matters.


Stop taking a complex situation and thinking that ONLY 1 thing caused the towers to collapse, WHEN ITS A MULTITUDE of factors that were involved.


there has been MANY building fires that demonstrate this; the WTC towers were not the ONLY buildings to fail because of fire.

Paint does not burst into a super hot thermite reaction when heated in an office fire.

The scientists found thermite that does react into a super hot thermite reaction when heated.

That is why steel-framed buildings do not collapse from office fires, the paint doesn't get super-hot in a thermite reaction.

But the WTC was loaded with thermite that got super hot. It melted and partially evaporated the steel, some that can be seen dripping from WTC 2. It caused hot spots seen by NASA thermal maps. It took down WTC 7 for no reason. It caused thermite explosions heard by hundreds including Willie Rodriguez and Barry Jennings. And the super hot thermite burned underground until December 19.

 

[boloboffin]

Paint does not burst into a super hot thermite reaction when heated in an office fire.

The scientists found thermite that does react into a super hot thermite reaction when heated.

That is why steel-framed buildings do not collapse from office fires, the paint doesn't get super-hot in a thermite reaction.

But the WTC was loaded with thermite that got super hot. It melted and partially evaporated the steel, some that can be seen dripping from WTC 2. It caused hot spots seen by NASA thermal maps. It took down WTC 7 for no reason. It caused thermite explosions heard by hundreds including Willie Rodriguez and Barry Jennings. And the super hot thermite burned underground until December 19.

Would you like to hear some gossip?

 

[Arus808]

Paint does not burst into a super hot thermite reaction when heated in an office fire.

Paint burns, especailly oil based ones, and Im sure many of the walls within the WTC still had oil based paint on them

NO ONE is claiming that hte paint reacted like thermite or produced a burn like thermite. YOU are the one claiming this, and you haven't provided a back up of this claim. PROVIDE PROOF.

and btw, THERMITE burns like any other substance that burns, so HOW CAN you tell what is a "thermite" reaction to a normal accelerant burn?

how can you tell by just looking at it.

The scientists found thermite that does react into a super hot thermite reaction when heated.

Wish you would stop using this lie. No SCIENTIST found thermite. Jones is not a scientist. Hoffman is not a scientist. the Samples collected were NOT collected by scientists (again, one was collected by an ARTIST who worked with POTTERY and METAL work, and the other was collected by someone, who found it ON A METAL BRIDGE that is COATED IN RED PAINT).

YOu repeating this lie over and over again DOESN:T make it true!

 

[Galileo]

Would you like to hear some gossip?

The sign of a great scientific paper, is one that explains many other phenomenon which is seemingly unrelated to the paper at first glance.

That is what Harrit's paper does, it explains everything.

I know you JREFers sit in dread, because you are wrong.

You deny scientific facts uncovered by internationally known scientists. You do this because you know the game is up.

Edited by chillzero: 

Edited for Rule 11.

 

[boloboffin]

The sign of a great scientific paper, is one that explains many other phenomenon which is seemingly unrelated to the paper at first glance.

That is what Harrit's paper does, it explains everything.

I know you JREFers sit in dread, because you are wrong.

You deny scientific facts uncovered by internationally known scientists. You do this because you know the game is up.

Edited by chillzero: 

Edited for rule 11.

I don't understand. Could you repeat the question?

 

[Lupie]

It took down WTC 7 for no reason. It caused thermite explosions heard by hundreds including Willie Rodriguez and Barry Jennings.

Point number one. I've had real world experience demonstrating the safe use and deployment of Thermite Grenades, and I can assure you not one of them ever exploded. Thermite is not an explosive, it's an incendiary.

Point number two. Thermite is commonly used in welding, often in joining railroad tracks, as well as other large components that need to be welded in place where Thermites "filling" properties are needed. With this in mind, if Thermite was actually found at or near ground zero, it could very well be a byproduct of the many railroad tracks around and under the area or other construction in the area.

So, you believe it's feasable that Thermite was used in the destruction of the towers. Since it's used often in welding would it not also be feasable that the Thermite claimed to be found was a product of CONSTRUCTION rather than DESTRUCTION?

 

[johnny karate]

Truthers have been blathering about this "discovery" for a while now. And yet as of this morning, I see no mention of it in the MSM, nor do I see any mention of any formal proceedings taking place to re-investigate 9/11, populist or otherwise.

Galileo, when do anticipate this verifiable discovery of explosives will have any sort of real-world impact?

Still no mention of anything even remotely related to this "discovery" on the evening news.

 

[WildCat]

so the fire was hot enough to melt steel?

You've been here for nearly 2 years and are still claiming there was molten steel?

 

[WildCat]

And the super hot thermite burned underground until December 19.

Can you tell us all how much thermite you would need in order for it to burn for 3 and a half months?

 

[Toke]

This thermite residue thingie have been in one of the danish advert financed papers, so it must be true , right.

 

[A-Train]

At some point we should move beyond whether the towers were brought down by controlled demolition, and start trying to discover who carried out the operation of mining three buildings in the heart of Manhattan for demolition after a false-flag terror strike.

"After basic training, I completed a noncommissioned officers' course, and then went on to an officers' course, graduating as the youngest officer at the time in the Israeli Defense Force. I then graduated from the military police officers' course and the special military law course, and followed that up with demolition and sniper training..." [emphasis added]

-The Other Side of Deception by Victor Ostrovsky pp. xii

So now we know that elite officers in Israeli intelligence were trained in demolitions. We also know, thanks to Christopher Bollyn's research, that WTC owner Larry Silverstein had close personal relationships with such Israeli leaders as Ariel Sharon and Bibi Netanyahu. We know that the passenger sitting in seat 9B on AAL11 was an officer in the Sayeret Matkal, the elite Israeli commando unit of which the above mentioned Netanyahu was also a member.... and we know that the American Airlines employee who fielded the phone call from a desperate Betty Ong aboard the hijacked plane told two major newspapers that she told him the hijackers came from seats 9A and 9B-- 9A being occupied by yet another man with a Zionist background, who graduated from the King David School in Johannesburg.

Whew, and that's just the beginning; we haven't even gotten to Michael Chertoff yet....

Galileo was right. You JREFers need to consider throwing in the towel and joining the side of truth. Do you really want to be the last rat on a sinking ship?