leftysergeant
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When steel buildings catch on fire, does the paint, computers, filing cabinets, and combustible cleaning fluids heat up to 1535 degrees C. and collapse the structure?
Yes.
When steel buildings catch on fire, does the paint, computers, filing cabinets, and combustible cleaning fluids heat up to 1535 degrees C. and collapse the structure?
This is a common event, right?
Yes.
Not only is it a common event, it's a given. And it is why steel is protected from exposure to fire by fireproofing.
it doesnt have to be hot enough to melt steel to make it collapse, in 7 years i had hoped the truthers would learn at least this muchso the fire was hot enough to melt steel?
no thermite reaction occurred, and harrit failed to prove his paint chips produced a thermite reaction by burning then in the presence of oxygenBesides the WTC, what other steel buildings have burst into thermite reactions from office fires?
so the fire was hot enough to melt steel?
it doesnt have to be hot enough to melt steel to make it collapse, in 7 years i had hoped the truthers would learn at least this much
no thermite reaction occurred, and harrit failed to prove his paint chips produced a thermite reaction by burning then in the presence of oxygen
dont know why this is important, because steel doesn't need to melt, in order to lose it strength. in fact, heat (from any source) only need to reach 50-60% of steel's melting to point to start a global failure
YOU know this Galileo.
leftysergeant says it gets to 1535 C.
Actually, his reply didn't mean what you thought it means, and this is partly because YOU dont read to understand, but only READ to attack points. YOU are arguing tWo different points at the same time and attributing one to cause the other, when That isn't the case.
PAINT can cause TEMPERATURES to reach very high when it STARTS burning. THAT has no bearing on the fact that STEEL only needs to be heated to 50-60% of its melting point to weaken enough to cause global failure
The fact that paint AN ALL THE OTHER COMBUStIBLEs in the TOWERS cause the fires to reach TEMPERATURES about 50-60% of the melting point of the steel trusses, IS what matters.
Stop taking a complex situation and thinking that ONLY 1 thing caused the towers to collapse, WHEN ITS A MULTITUDE of factors that were involved.
there has been MANY building fires that demonstrate this; the WTC towers were not the ONLY buildings to fail because of fire.
Paint does not burst into a super hot thermite reaction when heated in an office fire.
The scientists found thermite that does react into a super hot thermite reaction when heated.
That is why steel-framed buildings do not collapse from office fires, the paint doesn't get super-hot in a thermite reaction.
But the WTC was loaded with thermite that got super hot. It melted and partially evaporated the steel, some that can be seen dripping from WTC 2. It caused hot spots seen by NASA thermal maps. It took down WTC 7 for no reason. It caused thermite explosions heard by hundreds including Willie Rodriguez and Barry Jennings. And the super hot thermite burned underground until December 19.
Paint does not burst into a super hot thermite reaction when heated in an office fire.
The scientists found thermite that does react into a super hot thermite reaction when heated.
Would you like to hear some gossip?
The sign of a great scientific paper, is one that explains many other phenomenon which is seemingly unrelated to the paper at first glance.
That is what Harrit's paper does, it explains everything.
I know you JREFers sit in dread, because you are wrong.
You deny scientific facts uncovered by internationally known scientists. You do this because you know the game is up.
Edited by chillzero:Edited for rule 11.
It took down WTC 7 for no reason. It caused thermite explosions heard by hundreds including Willie Rodriguez and Barry Jennings.
Truthers have been blathering about this "discovery" for a while now. And yet as of this morning, I see no mention of it in the MSM, nor do I see any mention of any formal proceedings taking place to re-investigate 9/11, populist or otherwise.
Galileo, when do anticipate this verifiable discovery of explosives will have any sort of real-world impact?
You've been here for nearly 2 years and are still claiming there was molten steel?so the fire was hot enough to melt steel?
Can you tell us all how much thermite you would need in order for it to burn for 3 and a half months?And the super hot thermite burned underground until December 19.
So now we know that elite officers in Israeli intelligence were trained in demolitions. We also know, thanks to Christopher Bollyn's research, that WTC owner Larry Silverstein had close personal relationships with such Israeli leaders as Ariel Sharon and Bibi Netanyahu. We know that the passenger sitting in seat 9B on AAL11 was an officer in the Sayeret Matkal, the elite Israeli commando unit of which the above mentioned Netanyahu was also a member.... and we know that the American Airlines employee who fielded the phone call from a desperate Betty Ong aboard the hijacked plane told two major newspapers that she told him the hijackers came from seats 9A and 9B-- 9A being occupied by yet another man with a Zionist background, who graduated from the King David School in Johannesburg."After basic training, I completed a noncommissioned officers' course, and then went on to an officers' course, graduating as the youngest officer at the time in the Israeli Defense Force. I then graduated from the military police officers' course and the special military law course, and followed that up with demolition and sniper training..." [emphasis added]
-The Other Side of Deception by Victor Ostrovsky pp. xii