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Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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DOC said:
You have the right to believe your 13,000 posts were made by a souless entity, but I don't believe it.
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One more useless post to add to DOC's post count. This is the quality of posts that DOC uses as "evidence" for his genius.

Souless maybe; Brainless definately.
 
DOC said:
And if you don't think that I suggest you need to reread the thread and especially read all the pages in the 2 websites given in post 2865.
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If you're going to reference a post, and it actually supports the point you're trying to make, it would not take a lot of time to put in a link to it, like this: post 2865.

One way to do this is, while you're looking at the post in question (which you presumably are, to get the post number), click on the post number at the top right of the post. This will open just that post. Copy the URL from the top of the browser window, and use the link in your new post.

If you don't do this, then people will tend to think you rude, and may even suspect that you are referring to posts which don't actually support your position and hoping that people don't take the trouble to find them and check...



And, as I and others have pointed out, those links to Google books do not give a preview of the book for us.
 
DOC said:
Mojo said:
DOC said:
If there is no evidence for consciousness separate from the physical body how is it possible for the soulless bodies in here to keep demanding evidence?

It doesn't make sense for soulless bodies to demand evidence. Can physical living material demand evidence?

Can physical living material post thousands of posts on a Randi site?
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Oh boy, I'd forgotten that one!

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You have the right to believe your 13,000 posts were made by a souless entity, but I don't believe it.
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And you have the right to believe that those 13,000 posts were not made by "physical living material", but you would be flat-out wrong.

Just to spell it out to you:

a) entities posting on a forum is not evidence that those entities have consciousness separate from the physical body;

b) if you discount the possibility that the posts were made by non-living entities (which we probably can, with the exception of a few posters such as AutoModAction) and the possibility that posts were made by people without physical existence, then you are left with no other possibility other than that the posts were made by "physical living material".

I've reinstated the rest of my post you quoted so people can see what I'm referring to, BTW.
 
zooterkin said:
And, as I and others have pointed out, those links to Google books do not give a preview of the book for us.
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That's probably because it's listed on Google books as having "no preview available". And yet DOC claims that it loads one if you wait long enough. Must have something to do with his limited memory and dial-up access.
 
DOC said:
Sure it is evidence it was true; it is not proof it was true but it is evidence it was true. People in these threads tend to confuse the word evidence with the word proof.

The same thing can be said about the current scientific theory that living cells came from non-living matter over time -- there is no proof it is true because it has never been proven in an experiment.
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This is just silly. Even an experiment doesn't prove something. An experiment can at best disprove something. (Fail a hypothesis).

The point is that list provided isn't even EVIDENCE that the bible writers told the truth.


Now, perhaps you'd like to explain that Jesus at the same time gave us the best morality possible while simultaneously accepting that he couldn't give us the "truest" morality because of political issues at the time. This was your excuse as to why Jesus didn't state that slavery was bad and why he accepted it as a social norm.
 
DOC said:
What question has been asked 24 times that I didn't respond to -- give it and I'll respond to it? And I guess my 650 posts are not enough for some people.
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Perhaps someone else will have the energy to make a Top Ten list of Questions That Doc Won't Answer. I don't believe you when you say you will answer them just because i ask them. Respond to them, perhaps, but that is not the same thing. "I won't answer" is a response.

As far as your many posts, I would like to say, I'm glad you are here, and I don't feel any need to use pejoratives against you. Your body of work here is wonderful evidence of the foolishness of Christian beliefs.
 
Mojo said:
And you have the right to believe that those 13,000 posts were not made by "physical living material", but you would be flat-out wrong.

Just to spell it out to you:

a) entities posting on a forum is not evidence that those entities have consciousness separate from the physical body;
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What part of the physical body finds things humorous, or has opinons, or makes 13,000 posts.
 
paximperium said:
It works fine for me. Still looks like a list of really stupid apologetics and falsehoods to me.
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Let's try not to forget.
University is a compound word of Unity and diversity.

And that Christianity is a compound word of Christ and insanity.
 
kmortis said:
Oh! I know this one.


I'll take "The Brain" for 200, Alex.
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Ohhh. I was going to say "my ass".

Which is also the answer to the question, "What do you get when you cross an owl with a bungee cord?"
 
DOC said:
So the molecules that make up the brain have opinions.
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No. The multitude of neuronal biochemical and bioelectrical processes lead to the "emergence" of things called opinions.

Sorry if all this sciencey talk is too much for you.
 
DOC said:
Sure it is evidence it was true; it is not proof it was true but it is evidence it was true. People in these threads tend to confuse the word evidence with the word proof.
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And now we are back on page 1 (my post you quoted was the third post in this thread).

DOC, by your argumentation in this post, you have just rendered Geisler's entire book useless*. By saying that the infamous list can be evidence for a multitude of things, no one can trust it or use it to make conclusions, but rather it must be a list of after-the-fact rationalizations to support a previously drawn conclusion.

For example, if the NT can be used as evidence that the authors:

A) Wrote what they believed was true.
B) Wrote what was historically true.
C) Were clinically insane.
D) Would have received $1 milllion from any publishing house for a "true confession" tale.
E) Were submitting their final exam papers for a creative writing class.
F) Etc.

Then it is pointless to use it as evidence for any of the above. You may as well arbitrarily choose one.

The same thing can be said about the current scientific theory that living cells came from non-living matter over time -- there is no proof it is true because it has never been proven in an experiment.
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Derail. Take it to the Science forum.






* - Well, actually Geisler did that himself, you are just helping to bury the reeking corpse.
 
DOC said:
Did you know The Gospel writer Luke has been called a first rate historian by a famous secular archaeologist who subsequently converted to Christianity?
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And Greediguts demonstrated how that quote was deceptively mined to make it appear that this was true, when in fact, the quote as originally written destroys any claim of biblical certitude.

Any further reference to this will lead to further call-outs of your dishonesty.
 
I'm catching up from the weekend, but I didn't see where DOC, when he directly asked for what question I wanted him to answer actually answered it.

Is it still the case that he has not addressed Six7s' very simple question that the forum community in general requested he answer?
 
RobRoy said:
I'm catching up from the weekend, but I didn't see where DOC, when he directly asked for what question I wanted him to answer actually answered it.

Is it still the case that he has not addressed Six7s' very simple question that the forum community in general requested he answer?
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He responded but didn't answer the question.
DOC said:
Even though Jesus was speaking in ways (parables) that the unenlightened could better understand, his teachings were "still" the most sublime and moral the world has ever known (at least according to Thomas Jefferson).
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Translation: "Jesus was being obtuse but what he says is still the bestest-est of them all woot!!!"

So DOC's response is basically, "No it isn't."
 
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