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dtugg said:
You don't stick to the facts. You're a twoofer, after all.

Anyway, do "the facts" tell you that it was both an inside jobby job and teh jooos?
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Remember he's concerned also about the amount of debris he sees in the pile. I wonder if he think the J000z pulled a DEW in a massive inside jobby job
 
dtugg said:
You don't stick to the facts. You're a twoofer, after all.

Anyway, do "the facts" tell you that it was both an inside jobby job and teh jooos?
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The only person on this forum that I see referencing Jews is you.
 
RedIbis said:
The only person on this forum that I see referencing Jews is you.
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Could it be dtugg isn't talking about DANCING j000z that's the problem? I didn't know there were differences...
 
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Grizzly Bear said:
Could it be dtugg isn't talking about DANCING j000z that's the problem? I didn't know there were differences...
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I don't remember the last time I heard anyone talking about that. My point is that more often than not any reference to Jews or jooos comes from one of these so called debunkers. It's a bit grimy to harp on perceived anti-semitism where it doesn't exist and use it to prop up some very weak arguments.
 
RedIbis said:
I don't remember the last time I heard anyone talking about that. My point is that more often than not any reference to Jews or jooos comes from one of these so called debunkers. It's a bit grimy to harp on perceived anti-semitism where it doesn't exist and use it to prop up some very weak arguments.
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bill smith brought them up not me.
 
RedIbis said:
I don't remember the last time I heard anyone talking about that. My point is that more often than not any reference to Jews or jooos comes from one of these so called debunkers. It's a bit grimy to harp on perceived anti-semitism where it doesn't exist and use it to prop up some very weak arguments.
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Ah I see... Dancing Israelis has absolutely no anti-semite connotation whatsoever. It's missing the varied spellings off j000, joooo, or jew.

If you were to make that reference to dancing Israelis without any generalization as jooo reference or antisemite connotation I applaud you, unfortunately the same cannot be said of many "truthers" do place that claim in such context.
 
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dtugg said:
bill smith brought them up not me.
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In this thread you mentioned joos or some variance in five posts just on the last page without anyone mentioning, Israelis or Jews.

Congratulations, satirical or not, you are the only one using these bigoted terms.
 
Grizzly Bear said:
Ah I see... Dancing Israelis has absolutely no anti-semite connotation whatsoever. It's missing the varied spellings off j000, joooo, or jew.

If you were to make that reference to dancing Israelis without any generalization as jooo reference or antisemite connotation I applaud you, unfortunately the same cannot be said of many "truthers" do place that claim in such context.
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If the Israelis were dancing while the attacks were occurring than no, it has nothing to do with anti-semitism. For the same reason, criticism of Giuliani is not anti-Italian, and criticism of Gen. Myers is not anti-Wasp.
 
RedIbis said:
In this thread you mentioned joos or some variance in five posts just on the last page without anyone mentioning, Israelis or Jews.

Congratulations, satirical or not, you are the only one using these bigoted terms.
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I have noticed not as much of it in the last 6 months or so. However, for me it could be because I have most of the truther posters on ignore.

To deny the obvious anti-semitic thread that runs through the truth movement is a bit disingenuous Red. There have been tonnes of examples of it displayed here, and in articles written or blogged by other truthers.

You can claim, and I guess rightly so, that you are not anti-semitic, but you are wrong to claim it does not exist amongst the 9/11 truth movement.

TAM:)
 
RedIbis said:
If the Israelis were dancing while the attacks were occurring than no, it has nothing to do with anti-semitism. For the same reason, criticism of Giuliani is not anti-Italian, and criticism of Gen. Myers is not anti-Wasp.
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If you only critisized Italians, and your criticism was full of lies and distortions, it would be fair to ask if you were anti-Italian.
 
RedIbis said:
In this thread you mentioned joos or some variance in five posts just on the last page without anyone mentioning, Israelis or Jews.

Congratulations, satirical or not, you are the only one using these bigoted terms.
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I noticed that you kind of apologized there. But yeah, I only did that because I know 9/11investigator is a disgusting racist.
 
T.A.M. said:
I have noticed not as much of it in the last 6 months or so. However, for me it could be because I have most of the truther posters on ignore.

To deny the obvious anti-semitic thread that runs through the truth movement is a bit disingenuous Red. There have been tonnes of examples of it displayed here, and in articles written or blogged by other truthers.

You can claim, and I guess rightly so, that you are not anti-semitic, but you are wrong to claim it does not exist amongst the 9/11 truth movement.

TAM:)
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If you have most of the "truther posters" here on ignore, as I know other very prominent "debunkers" do, then all you are doing is reinforcing your own previously held beliefs.

Secondly, there are always going to be a percentage of anti-semites and bigots in nearly any group of people you compile. Hell, there might even be anti-semites at the two seders I will be attending this week.

The difference is when you form arguments based on those few examples and then extrapolate that as a characteristic of a group you have labeled.
 
RedIbis said:
If you have most of the "truther posters" here on ignore, as I know other very prominent "debunkers" do, then all you are doing is reinforcing your own previously held beliefs.

Secondly, there are always going to be a percentage of anti-semites and bigots in nearly any group of people you compile. Hell, there might even be anti-semites at the two seders I will be attending this week.

The difference is when you form arguments based on those few examples and then extrapolate that as a characteristic of a group you have labeled.
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Those who have merely restated the same old tired truther canards go on ignore, as it aggravates me to watch them argue the same thing over and over again despite being shown a plethora of evidence to the contrary.

Those who have shown to be continuously uncivil, or clearly Trolls, go on ignore, for obvious reasons.

Anyone who is neither of the above, or anyone new, is not on ignore.

I do not see it as reinforcing anything, as they are not bringing anything new to the table that would change anything.

You are right, there are anti-semites, no doubt, in almost every group. However, i suspect there is a higher percentage of them amongst 9/11 truthers, and certainly they are louder, and almost take pride in their pov on the matter. I doubt you will find such glorification of hatred amongst most FUNCTIONING individuals. In that regard, perhaps they are to be given credit, as those who promote hatred in secret meetings and behind closed doors, are almost certainly more effective in their recruitment...which is to be abhorred.

TAM:)

edit: rent and watch this movie...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113423/

TAM:)
 
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RedIbis said:
If you have most of the "truther posters" here on ignore, as I know other very prominent "debunkers" do, then all you are doing is reinforcing your own previously held beliefs. .
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i have many neo-nazis and racists on ignore.
 
Oh. Bill Smith's score has increased to 216, according to my crackpot index.
You wanna break the high scores?
 
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