Megan McCain "Am I Not Worthy Of Being A Member of Republican Party?" -In A Word, NO!

[Roadtoad]

McCain was a little more moderate on some things before he decided to kiss the base's ass to get elected. Then he seemed pretty hypocritical. But McCain's stand on the Iraq was was never moderate. And when he condoned torture, that was disgusting and clearly not a moderate position.

*wince*

I'm not sure that he condoned torture. Link?

 

[GreyICE]

*wince*

I'm not sure that he condoned torture. Link?

He went all wiggy on the issue and basically said "Bush should get a pass to do whatever he wants" after the signing statement debacle.

Which was odd, since he'd held firm on it when it could have cost him something, then gave up on it when it cost him basically nothing. I don't think candidates taking a principled stand against the party is wrong, but irrationally wobbling on them exactly when it costs you nothing to keep to your principles is about the least presidential thing a senator could do.

 

[Cicero]

That's not what's being reported.

And, you're right. Even as conservative as I am, I find Coulter to be offensive, crude, crass, and really, after trying to work my way through her books, not worth the time.

Well, if this is being reported, you should have no trouble providing a link to A.C. attacking Meghan.

 

[hgc]

*wince*

I'm not sure that he condoned torture. Link?

He voted against the bill that would make the CIA adhere to the US Army Field Manual. After all his rhetoric about how we shouldn't torture, when he finally got an opportunity to put is vote where his mouth was, he bailed.

 

[Roadtoad]

Well, if this is being reported, you should have no trouble providing a link to A.C. attacking Meghan.

My apologies. The guilty party was Laura Ingraham. McCain was calling Coulter's practices into question. I've misread this.

Guilty of skimming.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

How droll. Did you come up with that yourself, or did you pick it from the hairs around Coulter's bung hole?

I would suggest it came from the same place the opposition got "McSame" from during the campaign.

 

[Brainster]

Today, yes. Look at opinion polls on the issue broken down by age. The younger the demographic, the more that favor allowing gay marriage. It will eventually work against the GOP.

Assuming that their attitudes won't change as they age, which strikes me as doubtable.

 

[hgc]

I would suggest it came from the same place the opposition got "McSame" from during the campaign.

Precisely, though some schoolyard taunts are better quality than others. "Raychill" is the lamest I've seen in a long time. Makes "McSame" look Shakespearean.

 

[varwoche]

What happens when a "Republican" takes aim at Ann Coulter? Why you get booked on the Raychill Maddow show of course.

Pardon the off-topic comment, but when I see you constantly alter the names of your favorite targets in order to mock them, I cringe with embarrassment for you, at the notion that you might think this tired, juvenile routine is actually witty.

LOL! I swear I hadn't seen hgc's comment when I wrote this!

 

[Roadtoad]

Well, keep in mind that Coulter wrote How To Talk To A Liberal, (If You Must.) So, what do you expect, varwoche, from those who defend her?

 

[Cicero]

Pardon the off-topic comment, but when I see you constantly alter the names of your favorite targets in order to mock them, I cringe with embarrassment for you, at the notion that you might think this tired, juvenile routine is actually witty.

LOL! I swear I hadn't seen hgc's comment when I wrote this!

It's OK. When you've seen one lib's indignation over a phonetic spelling you've seen them all.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Precisely, though some schoolyard taunts are better quality than others. "Raychill" is the lamest I've seen in a long time. Makes "McSame" look Shakespearean.

True... at least "McSame" has a meaning behind it. Not a terribly accurate meaning, but a meaning nonetheless.

 

[Cicero]

Well, keep in mind that Coulter wrote How To Talk To A Liberal, (If You Must.) So, what do you expect, varwoche, from those who defend her?

I know what to expect from those who pillory her, but what do you expect from those who do not?

 

[Dr Adequate]

Did this bugwit miss the last Presidential election where her father, the most moderate Republican in the Party, lost?

I noticed that too. First the Republicans decided that they wanted the most liberal candidate they could get, and then he lost out to a guy a zillion times more liberal than he is, because that's what the country as a whole preferred.

So clearly the key to popularity is ultra-conservatism. What you need for a leader is a man like Limbaugh, with a whopping 11% approval rating --- he's such a great guy that even Democrats are rushing to anoint him as King of the Republicans.

 

[Roadtoad]

I know what to expect from those who pillory her, but what do you expect from those who do not?

Open admission when they're wrong. Honesty. In truth, I expect from them what I'd like to see from Coulter. I don't handle that kind of nasty attitude well.

If I we do not agree, it's less likely because one of us is evil or treasonous, it's probably because one of us has information the other needs. Something to consider.

 

[hgc]

It's OK. When you've seen one lib's indignation over a phonetic spelling you've seen them all.

I guess you don't have the guts to stand by what you said, trying to morph it into a "phonetic spelling." You'd really be better off letting the subject drop.

 

[Achán hiNidráne]

Assuming that their attitudes won't change as they age, which strikes me as doubtable.

Indeed, back in high school and college I got involved in the GOP and it shocked me to find how "liberal" (or rather, libertarian) many young Republicans' views were on abortion, homosexuality, drug legalization, and the Religious Reich. I even knew one or two who were closeted atheists. Now whenever I have the misfortune of meeting these people 10-20 years later, I discover that most of them have gone even further to the right, complaining about same sex-marriage, partial birth abortion," and how difficult it is to be white conservative christian in the face of the "liberal agenda."

Some use the "9-11 changed everything" canard for their change in attitude. Although, I don't see how the destruction of the WTC would lead one to embrace Creationism and prayer in school like my former friends have. Others that getting married and crapping out a few whiny kids "changed their outlook on life." So besides leading to a lifetime of boring, sexless, ennui (barring the sweet release of death or divorce), getting saddled with a spouse and a pack of spoiled brats turns you into a raving right-wing bigot? Yeah, sign me up for that!

I, on the other hand, went from anti-gay/anti-abortion/anti-"liberal" arch-Catholic Republican (In fact, I used to sound JUST like Cicero.) to an atheist pro-abortion, pro-gay, independent. Go figure.

Anyway, I don't hold out much hope for the GOP becoming more reasonable anytime soon. Right now the party is in the hands of a bunch of Bible-humping jingoists who aren't in any danger of retiring or dying off in the near future. By the time the current crop of young Republicans replace them, they'll be brainwashed into the cult of modern conservatism and will be just as crotchety and narrow-minded as their predecessors.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I noticed that too. First the Republicans decided that they wanted the most liberal candidate they could get, and then he lost out to a guy a zillion times more liberal than he is, because that's what the country as a whole preferred.

So clearly the key to popularity is ultra-conservatism. What you need for a leader is a man like Limbaugh, with a whopping 11% approval rating --- he's such a great guy that even Democrats are rushing to anoint him as King of the Republicans.

If you simplistic assessment of the last election is true, what then is the republicans motivation for moving to the centre or even to the left?

Why would anyone vote for another democratic party when they can vote for the original democratic party?

Where is the choice under such a situation? How is this not a one-party state?

 

[Cleon]

If you simplistic assessment of the last election is true, what then is the republicans motivation for moving to the centre or even to the left?

Why would anyone vote for another democratic party when they can vote for the original democratic party?

Where is the choice under such a situation? How is this not a one-party state?

It's not a matter of moving to the "center" or "left." The Republican Party needs to decide if it wants to be the Party of Small Government or the Party of Jesus Said So. Because it can't be both.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

It's not a matter of moving to the "center" or "left." The Republican Party needs to decide if it wants to be the Party of Small Government or the Party of Jesus Said So. Because it can't be both.

You mistakenly assume that small government and "Jesus said so" are incompatible.

Here in Canada, abortions are publicly funded. Which is neither small government nor christian. Pulling my tax dollars out of the abortuaries would be a step forward for both factions up here.