Merged Stolen Palestinian Land

[Marc39]

they are doing it SIMPLY because they hate Jews.

Um, yeah.

Is it possible that you and many other Judeo-fascists use the reality of anti-Semitism to white-wash and disregard criticism of ACTUAL things that Israel has done which are racist, inhumane, and undemocratic??

All the Judeo-fascists I know are far more fact-based than you suggest.

Naaa...it couldnt be.

Yeah, it certainly be.

Who could be sooo low...so pathetic...to use anti-Semitism as a tool to defend indefensable Israeli actions?

"Indefensible Israeli actions" like war crimes that you reflexively accuse Israel of being guilty of without even knowing the basics of what constitute a war crime? That's indefensible!

RIGHT?????????

Right, tossing around accusations of war crimes and not even knowing what a war crime is is indefensible and pathetic.

 

[Thunder]

"Indefensible Israeli actions" like war crimes that you reflexively accuse Israel of being guilty of without even knowing the basics of what constitute a war crime? That's indefensible!

I know what a war crime is..and I know what a crime against humanity is.

Israel has committed both...many many times.

But this is just anti-Semitism...I know.

I guess it would be anti-Semitic to have called Meir Kahane a racist right?

Calling Avigdor Lieberman a racist...is anti-Semitic right?

 

[Marc39]

Marc- you do understand that educated people don't buy into your "they criticize Israel because they are anti-Semites".... spiel one single bit..don't you?

Educated people...you mean, like you?

I mean, it worked maybe after Israel was first established. But now, with the racist settlements built on Arab private property, the Seperation Wall, the destruction of Gaza, and the soon-to-be racist/fascist Foreign Minister Lieberman, the strategy of blaming anti-Semitism for anyone/everyone who is critical of Israel just ain't gonna work anymore buddy.

Are you one of those teenagers or college kids you alluded to ignorant of history and current events?

Oh...oh my....what will you do? Who will you and the Judeo-fascists blaim once everyone rolls their eyes at the accusation of anti-Semitism?

Better think of something fast moishela.

Given the dramatic rise in antiSemitism and Islamofascism around the world, there is much blaim (sic) to go around.

 

[Marc39]

I know what a war crime is..and I know what a crime against humanity is.

Israel has committed both...many many times.

But this is just anti-Semitism...I know.

I guess it would be anti-Semitic to have called Meir Kahane a racist right?

Calling Avigdor Lieberman a racist...is anti-Semitic right?

Do you know what a broken record is?

 

[Thunder]

Do you know what a broken record is?

do you know what a useless post is?

 

[gdnp]

As a postscript to UN Res. 242 linking Israel's withdrawl from the West Bank to the PA establishing peaceful relations with Israel, senior Fatah leader Mohammed Dahlan confirmed on Tuesday that Fatah, which leads the Palestinian Authority, does not recognize Israel, which is also one of the basic requirements of the Roadmap plan.

"I want to say for the thousandth time, in my own name and in the name of all of my fellow members of the Fatah movement: We do not demand that the Hamas movement recognize Israel,” Dahlan said on PA television.

“On the contrary, we demand of the Hamas movement not to recognize Israel because the Fatah movement does not recognize Israel even today," added Dahlan.

Dahlan said that although Fatah does not recognize Israel, the PA
does--but only in order to receive aid from the international community.
Source: Palestinian Media Watch

Strange that Israel deals with Fatah and refuses to deal with Hamas even though neither "recognizes Israel". What, again, is your explanation for this?

You have stated several times that Gaza is not a state and Palestine is not a state, and that the Gaza people should not be given the rights that states enjoy. Clearly, you do not believe that the Palestinians have the right to a state. So why should they recognize you?

I don't believe my religion is relevant. A sizeable degree of my support for Israel stems from my tremendous admiration of how Israelis have transformed a desolate stretch of land into one of the most advanced nations on the planet.

And that gives them the right to oppress the Palestinians? Mussolini made the trains run on time.

When Jews were without a homeland, they were despised, to a considerable extent, for this very reason. Nothing has changed, Jews continue to be despised for having their own homeland. Add to this the fact that Jews know how to win wars and people contract the disease called IDS: Israel Derangement Syndrome.

Jews despised because they lack a homeland. Jews despised now they have a homeland. The logical conclusion is that the jewish homeland has little to do with antisemitism.

When my kids complain that other kids don't like them, my first question is whether they did anything to cause the other kids to not like them. This is not always the case. Sometimes kids are disliked simply because they are different, and sometimes because of jealousy. Still, I would not jump to the latter explanations without excluding the former first.

The Jews have suffered terrible oppression in their history. They are not unique in this respect. The early Christians suffered greatly under the Romans. I do not hear people using this as an excuse to justify the Inquisition or the Crusades, however.

I don't expect teenagers and college kids to be informed about the intricacies of Middle Eastern affairs and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. They "are doing it" as a tangible result of a highly effective pro-Palestinian public relations effort focused on disinformation about Israel and the vilification of the Israeli people. Israelis have been successfully portrayed as the oppressors and the Palestinians as the oppressed, and to those ignorant of history and more recent events, the powerful emotions engendered can easily draw them in to support those perceived as suffering injustice.

Wow. An argument that the pro-Palestinian lobby in the US is stronger than the pro-Israeli lobby.

Do you know what a broken record is?

Do you know what a mirror is?

 

[Marc39]

Strange that Israel deals with Fatah and refuses to deal with Hamas even though neither "recognizes Israel". What, again, is your explanation for this?

Again? I don't recall volunteering an explanation earlier. The PLO, however, does recognize Israel and has since 1993. Fatah President Abbas has also been having peaceful relations with Israel, which is why the Dahlan announcement on Tuesday to the contrary has raised eyebrows. Perhaps he's posturing for a post-Abbas phase, which is idle speculation on my part.

You have stated several times that Gaza is not a state and Palestine is not a state, and that the Gaza people should not be given the rights that states enjoy. Clearly, you do not believe that the Palestinians have the right to a state. So why should they recognize you?

Putting what I may have said to the side, is Gaza a state? Is the West Bank a state? I do believe the "Palestinians" should have a state...and renouncing violence and accepting Israel's existence would be an encouraging start.

And that gives them the right to oppress the Palestinians?

See previous response.

Jews despised because they lack a homeland. Jews despised now they have a homeland. The logical conclusion is that the jewish homeland has little to do with antisemitism.

The Jewish homeland has much to do with Palestine being the ancestral homeland of the Jews.

When my kids complain that other kids don't like them, my first question is whether they did anything to cause the other kids to not like them. This is not always the case. Sometimes kids are disliked simply because they are different, and sometimes because of jealousy. Still, I would not jump to the latter explanations without excluding the former first.

I'll bet if those other kids threatened your kids with physical harm because they imagined your kids stole their toys when in reality they never did, your priority would be to protect your kids. If those kids threatened your kids with jihad for being non-believers, you might feel more direct measures would be needed.

The Jews have suffered terrible oppression in their history. They are not unique in this respect. The early Christians suffered greatly under the Romans. I do not hear people using this as an excuse to justify the Inquisition or the Crusades, however.

Prior to the Crusades were the Moslems who stole the Jews' land in Palestine after invading and conquering it and then murdered them. You missed that one.

 

[Thunder]

The Jewish homeland has much to do with Palestine being the ancestral homeland of the Jews.

The Hebrews were originally from Israel? Abraham was from Israel?

I did not know this. Thank you.

 

[Doctor Evil]

The Hebrews were originally from Israel? Abraham was from Israel?

I did not know this. Thank you.

Abraham most likely never existed. And yes, some of the current theories are that the Judaism, and its earlier mythology, emerged when local tribes united to form a nation.