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Google Earth reveals "Atlantis"

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Well, Google Ocean, actually.

I first read this here (link posted at a woo forum):
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2255989.ece

Similar article here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sciencea...Ocean-Has-Atlantis-been-found-off-Africa.html

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The network of criss-cross lines is 620 miles off the coast of north west Africa near the Canary Islands on the floor of the Atlantic Ocean.

The perfect rectangle – which is around the size of Wales – was noticed on the search giant's underwater exploration tool by an aeronautical engineer who claims it looks like an "aerial map" of a city.

Last night Atlantis experts said that the unexplained grid is located at one of the possible sites of the legendary island, which was described by the ancient Greek philosopher Plato.

So where is the evidence of the continent Plato talked about? Why do only "streets" (fissures) remain?
 
Do you have any idea what the scale is? The upthrust mounds in the area of interest should have a known size, that would help.

Assuming it's actually texture on the floor and not an artifact of the process by which the pictures are generated, it's probably worth taking a look at. This seems awfully far from the coast to have been above the water as recently as recorded history, though.

Of course, it could also be an area where undersea mining techniques have been tested; or a place where volcanic rock structures have fissured; or...I'm not a geologist, but I'm sure there are other ways to get fairly parallel grooves.

If that crosshatched area is really the size of Wales, they're way too big to be streets or buildings.

I'm sure there will be lots of speculation, but little actual research into the easiest answers (what does depth-finding equipment in that area show? Do other, similar patterns show in prior and subsequent versions of the area? Does the software / imaging method create such structures when calibrating? etc).

Of course, the big question about Atlantis as an historical phenomenon is, What happened to their trade goods? We have traced Chinese pottery to Africa, and shells from California up to British Columbia...but so far as I know, there is no evidence of "Atlantean" products found anywhere. In the absence of significant evidence, the fallback assumption is that Plato--who never let the truth get in the way of a good story--polished up some myths he heard to burnish his claim that humans could be better connected to the World of Forms than his city-state was.

Just my thoughts, MK


BTW, I don't see any "perfect rectangle" in this picture.
 
Wales (see List of unusual units of measurementWP), if patted into a square shape looks like it would be roughly 90 mile on a side. Then I'd estimate the "roads" are two to three miles across and about two blocks long relative to their widths. Like a Walmart, with plenty of room to fill the aisles with junk to impulse buy.
 
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I bet it's man made, but there aren't enough roads going north and south. I bet some kind of mining operation.
 
Aside from how much briefer Plato's description of Atlantis is than generally believed, I thought one of the few things he specifically stated was that it consisted of concentric circles?

ETA:

Here it is:
Bordering on the sea and extending through the center of the whole island there was a plain, which is said to have been the fairest of all plains and highly fertile; and, moreover, near the plain, over against its center, at a distance of about 50 stades, there stood a mountain that was low on all sides. Thereon dwelt one of the natives originally sprung from the earth (autokhthones), Euenor by name, with his wife Leukippe; and they had for offspring an only-begotten daughter, Kleito. And when this damsel was now come to marriageable age, her mother died and also her father; and Poseidon, being smitten with desire for her, wedded her; and to make the hill whereon she dwelt impregnable he broke it off all round about; and he made circular belts of sea and land enclosing one another alternately, some greater, some smaller, two being of land and three of sea, which he carved as it were out of the midst of the island; and these belts were at even distances on all sides, so as to be impassable for man; for at that time neither ships nor sailing were as yet in existence.

Full text:
Translation of Plato's original text, Timaeus
 
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Wales (see List of unusual units of measurementWP), if patted into a square shape looks like it would be roughly 90 mile on a side. Then I'd estimate the "roads" are two to three miles across and about two blocks long relative to their widths. Like a Walmart, with plenty of room to fill the aisles with junk to impulse buy.
...and the Telegraph article declares that, "Plato described it as an island "larger than Libya and Asia put together" in front of the Pillars of Hercules - the Straits of Gibraltar".

Since when was Wales "larger than Libya and Asia put together"?

Of course, the BBC online reported that a scientist had found it in 2004 in southern Spain and that, ""Plato wrote of an island of five stades (925m) diameter that was surrounded by several circular structures - concentric rings - some consisting of Earth and the others of water. We have in the photos concentric rings just as Plato described," Dr Kuehne told BBC News Online. "

Seems ole Plato's works can be reinterpreted to fit whatever is the current pareidolia flavour of the month.

ETA: Hate to be a killjoy, but a Google representative has already stated that it's a processing artefact.
From Sky News (first link on a Google search "atlantis found"....)
"In this case, however, the image is an artifact of the data collection process, not the city of Atlantis.
"Boats use sonar to take measurements of the seafloor and the lines shown reflect the path of the boat as it gathers the data."
 
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I bet it's man made, but there aren't enough roads going north and south. I bet some kind of mining operation.
Ah, so the real reason Atlantis sank was it was a giant sinkhole! They dug out everything underneath themselves, and it collapsed into the sea!

Yeah, and they were supposed to be so super-smart and stuff.
 
Well, lets use some critical thinking here... We currently have no submarine mining techniques and equipment to create mining scars of that size at that depth. So, this can be ruled out.

The location is composed by relatively old oceanic crust- it probably was never exposed to subsurface conditions. At the time of its formation -some tens of millions years ago- it was higher, since it was by then at a mid oceanic ridge; thermal subsidence caused the area to very slowly "sink" while it gets away from the hot swollen mid oceanic ridge. One could then say it could have been exposed if sea levels were lower. Well, it seems sea levels were never low enough to expose great sectors of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge (unless there's a hot spot underneath, such as Iceland). But lets suppose somehow that this particular section was exposed and by some (highly unlikely) reason part of it sunk fast, maybe due to collapse. Guess what? The age is not right, there were no humans back then. No humans, no Atlantis.

So, what we are left with? A data colection/processing artifact (as it turned out to be the case) or a natural feature. Move along folks, no Atlantis to be seen here, as always.
 
Well, lets use some critical thinking here... We currently have no submarine mining techniques and equipment to create mining scars of that size at that depth. So, this can be ruled out.
I may be massively misinterpreting the scale and have no idea of the ocean depth at that specific point. But, there has been dredging in the oceans for at least a century - and google yields a lot of hits for +dredging +"canary islands"
 
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It is a little known fact that the real Atlantis was actually found by the Americal military during WWII, along with the ruins of an extemely advanced civilisation. It was kept a closely guarded secret, and indeed the exact location has never been disclosed and is unknown to this day.

At the height of the war, the USA started secretly training many thousands of female military personel on the Atlantis site, but unfortunately they were not aware of the unstable nature of the Island. They put too many people on the island, which lead to so much instability that Atlantis simply sank beneath the WAVES

Norm
 
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It is a little known fact that the real Atlantis was actually found by the Americal military during WWII, along with the ruins of an extemely advanced civilisation. It was kept a closely guarded secret, and indeed the exact location has never been disclosed and is unknown to this day.

At the height of the war, the USA started secretly training many thousands of female military personel on the Atlantis site, but unfortunately they were not aware of the unstable nature of the Island. They put too many people on the island, which lead to so much instability that Atlantis simply sank beneath the WAVES

Norm

Did they get WAC'd for it ?
 
It is a little known fact that the real Atlantis was actually found by the Americal military during WWII, along with the ruins of an extemely advanced civilisation. It was kept a closely guarded secret, and indeed the exact location has never been disclosed and is unknown to this day.

At the height of the war, the USA started secretly training many thousands of female military personel on the Atlantis site, but unfortunately they were not aware of the unstable nature of the Island. They put too many people on the island, which lead to so much instability that Atlantis simply sank beneath the WAVES

Norm
You will issue an apology to Dr. Asimov, immediately. Not sure how he'll get it, but the plagiarism is blatant!

(wasn't it Dr. A who said that plagiarism was the sincerest form of flattery? Or genius Steals, or something like that?)

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