Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth

[T.A.M.]

Bin Laden not wanted for 9/11!!!!!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring_(logical_fallacy)#Red_herring
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring_(logical_fallacy)#Red_herring
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring_(logical_fallacy)#Red_herring
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring_(logical_fallacy)#Red_herring
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring_(logical_fallacy)#Red_herring

Yes, Bin Laden is not wanted for 9/11. I love it when truthers bring up this stupid little bit of bull ****.

Well did he bring down some other planes I am unaware of, because the Airline Pilots Association and Air Transport Association are offering $2 Million (in addition to the $25 Million already on his head) for his capture.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

The Rewards For Justice Program, United States Department of State, is offering a reward of up to $25 million for information leading directly to the apprehension or conviction of Usama Bin Laden. An additional $2 million is being offered through a program developed and funded by the Airline Pilots Association and the Air Transport Association.

TAM

 

[Baylor]

Bravo Christopher7! Simpler speaking, you cannot destroy anything by dropping a piece of anything on it.

Take a house of cards! Drop a card on it and all the cards of the house may drop on the table but they - the cards - are still there, intact, on the table. Just build up the house of cards again.

 

[nicepants]

What is the mechanism for converting vertical kinetic energy into horizontal kinetic energy?

Do you know of such a mechanism?

I'll also refer you back to this image I posted a couple of years ago:

 

[T.A.M.]

Bravo Christopher7! Simpler speaking, you cannot destroy anything by dropping a piece of anything on it.

Take a house of cards! Drop a card on it and all the cards of the house may drop on the table but they - the cards - are still there, intact, on the table. Just build up the house of cards again.

I am explaining the same basics on another thread using other analogies where the same JREF members play stupid and cannot understand.

Take an egg. Drop the egg on another egg, and the...oh wait.

DOh!

Take water balloon, drop the balloon on another water balloon and the...

Doh! doh!

Take a simpleton, drop the simpleton on another simpleton and...well who cares, just do it...PLEASE!!!!

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/14189498b6f222bd52.jpg[/qimg]

I'll also refer you back to this image I posted a couple of years ago:

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/141894666e64c8b8ca.png[/qimg]

I have a much simpler one.

Take your fist. Raise it above a stacked Big Mac by about 2 feet.

Now drop the fist (vertical kinetic energy) on top of the Big Mac, and what happens to the lettuce, the pickle, the meat, etc???

Ah, they move HORIZONTALLY out of the sandwich.

TAM

 

[beachnut]

I have a much simpler one.

Take your fist. Raise it above a stacked Big Mac by about 2 feet.

Now drop the fist (vertical kinetic energy) on top of the Big Mac, and what happens to the lettuce, the pickle, the meat, etc???

Ah, they move HORIZONTALLY out of the sandwich.

TAM

Stop it! Stop making up lies! Gravity will make it all fall in its own footprint. No ejected material. It can’t happen in the delusional 911Truth fantasyland. You know this can’t happen, except in the NWO reality land.

That sure would make messes easy to clean up if objects would fall down and stop all stacked up and not ejected at impact; all my popcorn would be in neat stack the exact size of my container rising up. All the water you spill would be in a neat unreal stack exactly piled up the size of the spill. If I spill the potting soil, all in a neat column to be placed back in the bag.

We would all be in the delusional world of Heiwa and Chritopher7…

 

[Christopher7]

Yes, Bin Laden is not wanted for 9/11. I love it when truthers bring up this stupid little bit of bull ****.

Well did he bring down some other planes I am unaware of, because the Airline Pilots Association and Air Transport Association are offering $2 Million (in addition to the $25 Million already on his head) for his capture.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

TAM

Note that he is wanted for murder and conspiracy to commit murder OUTSIDE the U.S.

The government and media started telling us within hours of the attack that it was Bin Laden. This has been repeated thousands of times. Most Americans are convinced he was behind the attacks. Most Americans don't even know that he is not wanted for 9/11 because the MSM doesn't tell them.

 

[Christopher7]

So steel is brittle and cannot spring back?

Structural steel will bend a little and spring back but if it is bent a lot, it doesn't. Structural steel cannot store a great deal of energy like spring steel.

 

[Christopher7]

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/14189498b6f222bd52.jpg

I'll also refer you back to this image I posted a couple of years ago:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/141894666e64c8b8ca.png

Is that your idea of scientific evidence?

ETA: My question was rhetorical. There is no mechanism for turning large amounts of vertical kinetic energy into horizontal kinetic energy. You cannot accept that so you come up with silly things like "the pickle principal'" and the like. I don't know how much explosives it would take but we all know that there is no other explanation for 4 ton framing section being ripped apart and ejected up to 600 feet laterally.

No one here is honest enough to admit that reality.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

ETA: My question was rhetorical. There is no mechanism for turning large amounts of vertical kinetic energy into horizontal kinetic energy.

Let me help you out sparky... you're making an argument from ignorance, just as you did when you denied that the core structures required lateral bracing to stand. This demonstrates to me one basic principal; you're full of crap

You apparently didn't have the patience to look up case studies for the towers before making your outlandish claims. On top of that you outright claim that nothing in the wildest reality could possibly influence a horizontal motion vector in a falling object. It doesn't surprise me that your this dense with you still spewing this same mantra for several years. Buckling alone demonstrates one of many mechanisms for this, of course I wouldn't rule out the spring effect from the chaotic nature of the collapse. You've just demonstrated that you have absolutely no concept of this. I suggest you drop the subject before you humiliate yourself further.

You I cannot accept that so you I come up with silly things like "the pickle principal'" super powerful yet super silent hush-a-booms, thermite, and the like.

That's sounds a bit more accurate.

I don't know how much explosives it would take but we all know that there is no other explanation for 4 ton framing section being ripped apart and ejected up to 600 feet laterally.

No one here is honest enough to admit that reality.

Let me put this into perspective for you sparky; this is what a normal CD sounds like when the charges are powerful enough to cut through the columns:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79sJ1bMR6VQ

To not only cut... but THROW the columns... and not just THROW... but LAUNCH THEM 600 FT enters this territory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KuGizBjDXo

and this is 100 tons of TNT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VANyY87-_Q

&

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPcQ_nhCi2w&feature=related

To put it into further perspective, the planes both hit with the rough equivalent of 2000 pounds of TNT... The collapse of the towers had far more potential energy in their pre-collapse state than the plane impacts had on the structures themselves. And yet you continue to sidestep that problem.

 

[beachnut]

Note that he is wanted for murder and conspiracy to commit murder OUTSIDE the U.S.

The government and media started telling us within hours of the attack that it was Bin Laden. This has been repeated thousands of times. Most Americans are convinced he was behind the attacks. Most Americans don't even know that he is not wanted for 9/11 because the MSM doesn't tell them.

T.A.M. is right he is wanted for 911 right here and I got 25 million dollar, so to speak if you produce the one and only ULB! I would call that wanted big time; as T.A.M. pointed out.

You lost due to lack of imagination, and inability to handle reality.

You have no clue how a gravity collapse works. ‘’

BTW smart guy who believe loons like GAGE, in a CD why are massive ejects not happening? Because they use explosives to control it so there are not massive ejections like an uncontrolled Gravity collapse causes. …got u

GOT U – U B Busted again.

You fell for the bait and posted pure stupid so many time you can’t edit out your delusion!

BTW; CLUE for 911Truth; The MAJOR energy source in CD is? GRAVITY

Don't need a degree, just logical thought.

 

[nicepants]

Physics 101

Is that your idea of scientific evidence?

ETA: My question was rhetorical. There is no mechanism for turning large amounts of vertical kinetic energy into horizontal kinetic energy.

When a roller coaster reaches the bottom of a vertical drop and the track levels, what happens to its vertical kinetic energy?

 

[Macgyver1968]

Damn...I kinda feel sorry for C7...y'all want me to switch sides, and pretend to be aTS'er...you know...just for sportmanship?

 

[TexasJack]

Damn...I kinda feel sorry for C7...y'all want me to switch sides, and pretend to be TS'er...just to be sporting?

Naw, go out and celebrate your birthday instead.

 

[HyJinX]

TexasJack has a point...why are you not near a pole dancer right now!

Get goin' partner!

 

[Macgyver1968]

Roger...command received...initiating walk to the local bar sequence. I deny responsibility for any posts made later tonight..and I apologize in advance.

 

[A W Smith]

CD cant eject either Chris

There is no mechanism for turning large amounts of vertical kinetic energy into horizontal kinetic energy. You cannot accept that so you come up with silly things like "the pickle principal'" and the like. I don't know how much explosives it would take but we all know that there is no other explanation for 4 ton framing section being ripped apart and ejected up to 600 feet laterally.

No one here is honest enough to admit that reality.

I was watching some professional controlled demolition videos, It occurred to me something was missing, there were absolutely no lateral ejections of four ton columns of steel or concrete. In fact no lateral ejection of structural members at all. You will have to do better Chris,

 

[beachnut]

When a roller coaster reaches the bottom of a vertical drop and the track levels, what happens to its vertical kinetic energy?

[911TruthPhysicsBalsamoGageJonesStyle] It stops! [/911TruthPhysicsBalsamoGageJonesStyle]

 

[buka001]

Structural steel will bend a little and spring back but if it is bent a lot, it doesn't. Structural steel cannot store a great deal of energy like spring steel.

This post demonstrates yet again your complete ignorance of basic physics. Take a big steel beam hoist above you 50ft with a crane. Lie beneath it. Ask the crane to let it fall. According to you, you should be ok when it lands on you, because structural steel cannot store energy.

Heiwa would also go on to say you'll be ok, because if something falls on something it doesn't crush that something.

Who are you gonna trust? Your understanding of physics or real physics?

Still waiting for an apology where you admit you were wrong about the cranes staying inside the building.

 

[Christopher7]

Insults, lies, deliberate misinterpretation and subject changes.

Why am I not surprised?

No one here will admit that the only explanation for numerous 4 ton framing section being ejected up to 600 feet is explosives.

No one here can provide another explanation, just a lot of irrelevant crap about balls bouncing, spring steel and roller coasters changing course. This is your idea of scientific evidence.

No one here will admit that NIST has NOT explained the collapse of the Trade towers.

No one here can acknowledge that they believe a Conspiracy Theory.

Not all who read this thread will buy your blind faith in the OCT and you abject denial of any evidence to the contrary.