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Native American myths/traditions support Bigfoot? A critical look.

drapier said:
Yes, I think any response to his postings merely reinforces his poor forum behavior. I recommend not rewarding him so consistently.
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I am makaya's enabler. I admit this. I have a hard time not touching nickel bags of dumb. It's a twelve step thing and I can't find my shoes.
 
This thread has reached and passed the 27 page mark that brought the sword of metastization down on the PGF Part Deux. Will we make it to 30 before our own splatter treatment? Will it be like Children of the Corn? Let's be good and post real quiet like and see if we can melt into the herd of Bigfoot threads. If any predator JREF people show up, we all jump into the Patty and Bob Heironimus thread and start posting like crazy, OK? It's a survival game, you see.
 
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Makaya, among other things, I am waiting for...

- You to cite the post where I have been relying on CSICOP for my research regarding this thread and an explanation why you said so if you can't.

- An answer to "Are you saying my research is BS? Are you saying that the information that I have researched that was put on the internet by various native groups in order to preserve traditional knowledge and educate others about their cultures is BS?"

- You addressing my questioning you on why you originally were saying the PNW natives see Bigfoot as a totally normal animal without any supernatural element.

- You citing an example of a traditional tale of the Hupa about Bigfoot. Not a Bigfoot enthusiast's website reference.

- Evidence that all NA tribes have a Bigfoot figure.

Please do not post a one or two sentence response shirking off the rebuttals to your own statements. If you can't handle them, don't make points you can't back in the first place. Do not ask me to address something else first. Please use the quote function to ensure a proper response to this post.
 
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makaya325 said:
Tyr, did you miss:

But, special being as he is, I have never heard anyone from a Northwestern tribe suggest that Bigfoot is anything other than a physical being, living in the same physical dimensions as humans and other animals. He eats, he sleeps, he poops, he cares for his family members.
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You went to a bigfoot site and found someone making the exact same mistakes you are. How amazing. You know what that article didn't have? Citations. I'm supposed to agree with her interpretations of native stories because? Even if natives thought they had a creature around like bigfoot that means they were right because? This means that all the native American stories that bigfoot revisionists have listed as bigfoot stories that we've shown to be nothing of the sort are really bigfoot because?

You've made a lot of claims about these stories and backed it up with nothing but links to someone else making the same claim. Have you read this thread yet? How about you do some real research and back up your claims with something. Until then, why should we listen to your calls to read bigfoot reports (that most of us have already read)?
 
Without cites, sources, evidence, or anything other than personal assertions? Yes.

So makaya, I'm guessing you ignore all points you'd rather pretend didn't exist? Yup, I guess so. That's why you completely ignored everything else I said. Otherwise, you wouldn't have asked a question that is easily answered by reading my previous post.
 
makaya325 said:
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/highpine.htm
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tyr_13 said:
"Bigfoot is seen more as a sort of supernatural or spirit being, whose appearance to humans is always meant to convey some kind of message."

Hmmmmm, even the article on that bigfoot website disagrees with you.

EDIT: That isn't my only criticism of that article, but I'm not taking the time this second to go through all of them. Besides, kitakaze can do it better anyway.
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I don't know about that. I'm not wasting one more second on time consuming research that willfully ignorant Bigfoot enthusiasts like makaya are too lazy to read. Besides, I'm not losing any points for effort. I have covered every part of that article in detail in this thread already. It is makaya's appalling ignorance, attention deficit, and laziness that makes him link that article as though we've never seen it.

Gayle Highpine and Co. - Done

Gayle's sources - Done.

Chiye tanka - Done.

Rugaru - Done.

Wendigo - Done.

Manitou - Done.

Is makaya a hybrid spam-troll chat brat creature?
 
kitakaze said:
Manitou - Done.
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Richard F. Burton seems to have done a little research on this creature. There's a reference to it in his notes in the 17 volume Thousand Nights and a Night. He uses a slightly different term though. But it's clear he's refering to manitou. He equates it (basically) to a north american belief in jinn.

This term requires a cautious usage due to it's inherent nature of inducing spit dribbling tantrums.
 
kitakaze said:
God/spirit and thus not Bigfoot. Done. Next.
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Perhaps the inability to understand the possibility of 'interdimensional' prevented Burton from taking the next step of bigfoot enlightenment, equating manitou with being 'interdimensional' bigfoot.

Or must he be furry and stinky? That smacks of BFF.
 
manofthesea said:
Perhaps the inability to understand the possibility of 'interdimensional' prevented Burton from taking the next step of bigfoot enlightenment, equating manitou with being 'interdimensional' bigfoot.

Or must he be furry and stinky? That smacks of BFF.
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Bigfoot is not interdimensional. It only appears this way due to the stealth capabilities endowed upon the Infiltrators (Bigfoot) by their alien genetic manipulant designers.

BONK!
 
manofthesea said:
Richard F. Burton seems to have done a little research on this creature. There's a reference to it in his notes in the 17 volume Thousand Nights and a Night. He uses a slightly different term though. But it's clear he's refering to manitou. He equates it (basically) to a north american belief in jinn.
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Cite?
Which term does he use and from which volume are his notes on the subject?

Note that by the time he translated Arabian Nights in 1884 he was very aware of N.Am usage of manitou, so why would he not use the word? He certainly made reference to manitou in earlier treatises.
 
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makaya325 said:
Kitz, ok, your right. I assumed to much about the subject.
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I think I'd like to praise you on that reflection but I'm not sure what you're reflecting on. See, that's why people keep telling you to use the quote function. I mean, are you agreeing with me about Infiltrators (Bigfoot)?
 
No, I'm sorry. I don't accept token gestures. Point by point response to post #1084, please. Don't forget to quote and please don't continue evading me. You are a Bigfoot enthusiast, not Bigfoot.
 
kitakaze said:
No, I'm sorry. I don't accept token gestures. Point by point response to post #1084, please. Don't forget to quote and please don't continue evading me. You are a Bigfoot enthusiast, not Bigfoot.
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Kinda hard to tell the difference. They both howl, throw rocks and leave tracks.
 
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