What ELSE about Obama am I going to find out about?!

[fuelair]

The first step is denial. I would hope for you that you can make it through the other steps and on to a healthy mindset, but unfortunately many democrats remain stuck at the first step.

Funny words from a republicker!!

 

[Cleon]

The McCain is not a natural born citizen crap was only stupid because he immediately released his birth certificate and medical records. This issue with Obama's citizenship could go away just as quickly if Obama would just do the same.

You're not even keeping track of what's going on.

First, Obama released his medical records.

Second, John McCain never released his birth certificate - there was no reason to. The "natural born citizen" crapola was based on the completely undisputed fact that McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, and some lunatics misinterpreted the Constitution (not to mention US case law) to decide that this means he wasn't legally considered a "natural born citizen." Were McCain to release his birth certificate, it would establish little other than the fact that he was born in the Panama Canal Zone - again, something that is completely undisputed.

 

[KingMerv00]

As my lawyer told me last time I was sued;

"Any ass with a typewriter and $100 can file a suit."

You don't need a typewriter and if you are poor enough you can waive fees.

I think all you really need is a brain stem.

 

[Upchurch]

So, Obama has presented his birth certificate to a number of agencies and holds a State Department issued US Passport, but because a spiteful Hillary Clinton supporter filed a temporary restraining order to keep Obama from running for President, there just might be something fishy with Obama's citizenship? And the fact that Obama's lawyer has moved to dismiss the restraining order is evidence that there is something to it?

Does that about sum it up?

 

[Tricky]

I didn't say that. I said for Barry to go to school in Indonesia, he had to become an Indonesian citizen.

He was what, ten years old then? I'm pretty sure a ten-year-old doesn't get to make such legal choices, even in Indonesia. If he was listed as an Indonesian citizen on a school roll, you can bet that was done by his parents or his teachers to avoid a lot of paperwork, not because Barry had decided not to be an American.

Personally, I'd be glad if the US president had a wealth of knowledge about other countries and cultures. It could come in handy in avoiding the mistakes of a certain incumbent.

 

[skeptical]

If that doesn't pop up a red flag, I'll connect the dots for you. The Annenberg Political Fact Check is part of the Annenberg Public Policy Center. Obama was on the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which is also part of the Annenberg Public Policy Center.

Someone else addressed this, but if you had done even the barest amount of research you would have known that the Annenberg PPC is a _conservative_ foundation and FC came into existence long after the CAC was dead.

I have another 'image' for you here.

It shows that natural born US citizen or not, his mother divorced and remarried Lolo Soetoro from Indonesia. In Obama's book he says he was in school in Indonesia for 4 years under the name of Barry Soetoro. The only way he could have done that was for his step father to either adopt him, or 'acknowledge' him. Either way he would have had to become an Indonesian citizen.

Irrelevant even if true. (you have provided no evidence it is true except your claim)

Here is US law as it pertains to the loss of US citizenship taken from here: http://www.richw.org/dualcit/law.html

Loss of citizenship (INA § 349, 8 USC § 1481)

Section 349 of the INA [8 USC § 1481] specifies several conditions under which US citizenship may be lost. These include:

• becoming a naturalized citizen of another country, or declaring allegiance to another country, after reaching age 18;
• serving as an officer in a foreign country's military service, or serving in the armed forces of a country which is engaged in hostilities against the US;
• working for a foreign government (e.g., in political office or as a civil servant);
• formally renouncing one's US citizenship before duly authorized US officials; or
• committing treason against, or attempting or conspiring to overthrow the government of, the US.

The primary effect of recent developments in the US regarding dual citizenship has been to add the requirement that loss of citizenship can only result when the person in question intended to give up his citizenship. At one time, the mere performance of the above (or certain other) acts was enough to cause loss of US citizenship; however, the Supreme Court overturned this concept in the Afroyim and Terrazas cases, and Congress amended the law in 1986 to require that loss of citizenship would result only when a potentially "expatriating" (citizenship-losing) action was performed voluntarily and "with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality".


You seem to be trying awfully hard to convince yourself that one of the candidates for President is not American. That doesn't seem very patriotic to me. So, why do you hate America?

 

[Cleon]

So, Obama has presented his birth certificate to a number of agencies and holds a State Department issued US Passport,

Incidentally, that alone is legally considered proof that he is a US citizen.

 

[Upchurch]

...and if you don't believe he has a US Passport, remember this?

 

[GreyICE]

Because there is a lawsuit submitted by an ex attorney general in good standing with the DNC, and rather than simply showing a birth certificate, he has filed a motion to dismiss.

Are you vaguely aware of what a motion to dismiss is? It means "The person suing me has such a stupid case it's a total waste of your time." The motion to dismiss probably consists of several documents, one of which would be a birth certificate.

Looks a bit like this:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
I expect it will be granted in due course, because judges have to give due weight to every claim, even when that claim is stupid.

They then dismiss it.

 

[Frozenwolf150]

Well, here, I have contacts so here are the next ten shocking revelations about Obama.

1) Routinely removes the tags from pillows

2) Staunch supporter of the designated hitter rule

3) Used to be Celine Dion's manager

4) Not the messiah, is in fact a very naughty boy

5) Closet Trekkie

6) Used to work in Hollywood, greenlit Kazam!

7) Once ate a puppy

8) has lied about the size of the fish he nearly caught on a fishing trip

9) Actually a Werewolf

10) Shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die

Hope this helps

#9 makes me more inclined to vote for him, not less. Sadly, discrimination against lupine Americans still overrides people's concerns for the issues, even in this day and age.

 

[Ausmerican]

Dr Baltar, perhaps you were not aware that the Annenberg that the website and the educational board that Obama served on is Walter Annenberg.
A lifelong republican and good friend of Ronald Reagan.
Wiki him and you will see a nice pic of them.
His widow is a McCain supporter.
So they are biased you say?
Which way?
BTW this means that a close friend of Reagan and lifelong republican gave the funding to Bill Ayers for that educational board.
Are you going to hold Reagan to the same standards as Obama?

 

[gdnp]

#9 makes me more inclined to vote for him, not less. Sadly, discrimination against lupine Americans still overrides people's concerns for the issues, even in this day and age.

When will vulpine Americans get the respect we deserve?

 

[Upchurch]

So.... we done with this silly citizenship thing? Have we beat that dead horse enough already?

 

[gnome]

Late to the conversation--but after running with every single rumor that paints Obama in a bad light, no matter how little substance is behind it--someone's wondering why the next alarmist article isn't being believed?

If people are so worried that something important might actually be true, but manage to slip through popular perception anyway... hadn't they better be a little choosier and not cry wolf all the time?

 

[gdnp]

So.... we done with this silly citizenship thing? Have we beat that dead horse enough already?

That should do it.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

So.... we done with this silly citizenship thing? Have we beat that dead horse enough already?

Dead horse? So that's what that bloody mess was on the highway? I thought a tank had run over a very, very large raccoon.

 

[varwoche]

That should do it.

Wild-eyed optimism run amok!

 

[BenBurch]

And any ass with photoshop can submit a birth certificate image from anywhere they like.

So, go spend the money to do a proper public records search.

I'd do it, but I already believe it, and I'm not spending the bread for fun. I only do that when I have a CLIENT.

I have gotten birth record abstracts a number of times for various people I have been called upon to investigate.

But I have seen birth certificates from there and that one was a perfect fake if it is a fake.

 

[BenBurch]

You don't need a typewriter and if you are poor enough you can waive fees.

I think all you really need is a brain stem.

Indeed the last person who sued me LIED so she could get her fees waived.

 

[Nyarlathotep]

Indeed the last person who sued me LIED so she could get her fees waived.

The last person?
Dude, do you get sued a lot? Just asking.....